NVIDIA 169.xx, Shaders & Shiny

i have the same issues with my 8800gtx and latest windlight & nvidia drivers.
red or blue smoke popping out of object, ava's etc. horrible!

red/blue = you've enabled updates accidentally.

GeForce 7300 GT/PCI/SSE2 169.25 worked great in windows xp.
Now with Vista it doesn't. I downgraded to 163.75 and it works good.

A word of advice when downgrading - for me at any rate, the usual Nvidia 169 uninstall (where you uninstall the graphics card in Device Manager in XP) does NOT remove the OpenGL miniport driver.

When I uninstalled and went back to 163, I was greeted with even worse graphics performance than before. After much trial and error, and a handy free utility called Driver Cleaner Pro, I found that the nv4_mini.sys which is the OpenGL miniport driver if memory serves remained even after uninstall.

Installing 163 didn't overwrite this file, as it detected the newer one from 169 as present. So if you are downgrading, beware this, use the aforementioned utility in safe mode after uninstall (follow its directions carefully of course), and you'll be back in business with a decent frame rate and correct graphics.

Additional: Seems this has been considered broken by some since 167 betas: http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t52843.html

not vid card driver error it is the coder's fault

bad coding ... they always try to shift the blame on nvidia ---

replace the coders and it will solve all laggy stutttery gaming ....

8800gts 640mb / 8800gts 320mb using
nvidia 174.74 geforce winxp_64bit drivers,

Havnt gotten this ...yet , testing if i do anyway

hello i have a problem ,...... i try to log in but there is a message :

second life is unable to run because your video card drivers are out of date or unsupported. please make sure you have the latest video card drivers installed
if you continue to receibe this messege, contact customer service

i have my update . can you help me ..

Gotta loved highly informed posts such as this.

1.19.1 has brought my gforce g1650 LE to its knees, unless i reduce video to seeing like only 2 feet in front of me.

Am thinking of this card, XFX GeForce 8600 GT , any opinions?

I'm limited as to what card I put in as power supply in box only 300 watts, and yes i know they are cheap, easy to install, etc but for a zillion reasons I have ruled out monkey with the power supply on this current computer.

oh, here is link to card if that helps in forming an opinion.

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3445092&Sku=P450-8670


p.s I read another poster in these forums who said to avoid any certain cards for SL:

"Any vid card that has FX,go,LE, gs, turbo/hypermemory
< avoid avoid >"

I guess it depends on the spec rest of your PC, but after adding a 8800gt to my machine, my 580W PSU died and had to be replaced. It could have just been the end of it's natural life, but it does seem a little unusual that it died just then.

Sounds like it was already on the way out and your card pushed it over the edge.. I'd have thought a 580 was more than sufficient for an 8800 assuming that the rest of your rig wasn't excessive!

it had just all been upgraded, so I guess it wasn't a fair comparison

"Any vid card that has FX,go,LE, gs, turbo/hypermemory"

^ Cause these are budget/cheap for office use not ment for heavy rendering so rather spend tiny bit more and avoid those, this xfx 8600 card is a GT tho so it works, xfx's are notoriously noisy buggers tho.

But youd want least 350watt and recommended +12 Volt current rating least 22 amp, (dont get why its that high tho, i have 20amp on my 8800gts and its been running for a long time now)

Just cause some psu's have higher watt doesnt mean they are better, if it has 15 amp or lower id avoid it like plague.

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As for this shader bug, 174.74 seem to work for me still on the RC4 client, but trying to break thing in SL is bit hard when you cant even log in

Just wanted to point out that for the few minutes I WAS able to log on today, the 169.28 drivers (AKA, the Unreal Tournament 3 beta driver) seems to work just fine; everything renders nicely on my 7600 GS. This is on a fresh install of WinXP w/SP2, 2GB Ram, 3.0G P4.

I had that happen too the other day..I reinstalled my driver and was able to get back in. I have the 8800GTS 512Mb card. I'm using the 169.21 drivers since these are the ones listed at the Nvidia site for my card.

Since it's been about 4 months since this post was made... Has the problem been resolved or is it still on going?? I'm buying a new computer and trying to decide between a 256MB 8600GT or a 512MB 8800GT

http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us

^ Where to find nvidias beta drivers, id recommend 174.74 , still none of the wierd bugs 169's had.

running nvidia 6800,7950,8600,8800, cards.

I am using the 174.74 drivers with a 7600 GT and have the best luck with the current release viewer. Very few crashes. However with the release client, I crash constantly if there are multiple avi's on screen. This viewer does not like avi's. I have one problem on both viewers where rezzed land under water turns black. Jet black, no colors. If atmospheric shaders are turned off everything goes back to normal underwater, but then I lose the pretty skies. Anyone else have/solved this?

Youre not running on multiple monitors right?, running SL in other then main screen can get black stuff like this happening.

Nope, single 48" LCD running at 1920 x 1024, standard 1080P native resolution at 60hz, D-Sub connection. Still doing it with the newest release candidate...

Layla Honi
Registered User
''Originally Posted by Pili Ducrot
hello i have a problem ,...... i try to log in but there is a message :

second life is unable to run because your video card drivers are out of date or unsupported. please make sure you have the latest video card drivers installed
if you continue to receibe this messege, contact customer service

i have my update . can you help me .. ''

''I had that happen too the other day..I reinstalled my driver and was able to get back in. I have the 8800GTS 512Mb card. I'm using the 169.21 drivers since these are the ones listed at the Nvidia site for my card. ''

NEMESIS STORY....

re installed the drivers twice, uninstalled and re installed second life twice no luck....
the shitty nhs pc graphic card at work can do the trick and i go on line the nvida g force 8800 can do ''nothing'' HELP HELP HELP
BELOW IS WHAT IS THE PC IS MADE OF:

System Information
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Time of this report: 4/18/2008, 16:32:17
Machine name: MERC1
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6850 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 3326MB RAM
Page File: 374MB used, 4835MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 8800 GTX
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0191&SUBSYS_049F19F1&REV_A2
Display Memory: 768.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6921 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/5/2007 01:41:00, 5773568 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 12/5/2007 01:41:00, 7435392 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42D1-11CF-4861-942403C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0191
SubSys ID: 0x049F19F1
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run


ANY IDEA WHY I GET THE STUPID MESSAGE?

OOOH LINDEN LAB PEOPLE TOLD ME..CHANGE THE GRAPHIC CARD...AND TOLD ME....YOU R NOT A PREMIUM MEMBER THEREFORE NO SOLUTION FOR YOU

THANK YOU

Hi Nemesis, welcome to the forums (despite your dire name ). Obviously the nVidia 8800 GTS should work fine with SL. You MIGHT be having a driver version problem as the error says, it is not impossible. However, I think it is more likely that you have a different problem. We see a lot of folks complaining about getting this error when their drivers are up to date.

In fact, I wish LL would remove this error message. It can be triggered by two things that have nothing to do with whether your card will work with SL:

1. If you update your driver but do not first uninstall the old one, you may get this message due to a mismatch in some registry item that was not cleaned out by the new install. Uninstalling the driver, cleaning the registry, and re-doing the upgrade will usually fix this.

2. If an OpenGL configuration parameter has been set to a value that SL does not support (bit buffer depth, etc.), you will sometimes get this message. Most likely, this is not the problem --- unless you changed the defaults, OpenGL should work fine.
.

NEMESIS IS ETERNALLY GRATEFUL TO YOU AND TO ALL THE FURTHER REPLIES SHE WILL RECEIVE, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH NEMESIS MEANS ''Inexorable divine retribution '' , SHE IS KIND OF FED UP OF HAVING A GOOD PC AND NO GAMES....

THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR YOUR HELP
CIAO CIAO

Ok, I have tried the latest release candidate (1.20.2) and found that I am getting much better performance from the current release nVidia drivers (no glitching). However, I also notice that I have started to get graphics lockups when ever another avatar is in view they only last a second or so, and totaly disapear when I set the graphics settings to their lowest in SL.
Very strange, I don't get this using the standard release version of SL.
Another noticable problem is that Anti-aliasing has stopped working in the release candidate graphics hardware box.
Wonder if my graphics driver install is borked...

Please confirm your driver version and graphics card model.