Does short=ageplay?
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Susie Boffin
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06-16-2006 20:49
If any of you know me I have had a 5 foot all av for a long time but I was just in the Welcome Area, with my Mentor badge on, and someone IM'd me talking all about age play. I am not sure what his point was because he couldn't quite express himself but I think he was saying that age play is wrong.
I might be wrong about his concern for all I know. I haven't studied the issue. My question is does a short av = ageplay?
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06-16-2006 20:59
No.
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Cocoanut Cookie
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06-16-2006 21:07
I hope not.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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06-16-2006 22:34
No.
For that matter, having a young avatar doesnt equal ageplay... beyond, well, a rather literal reading of the phrase, I suppose.
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Wrom Morrison
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06-16-2006 22:41
Short is not ageplay. And kid AV's are not necessarly ageplay.
BUT, if they have somewhere in their profile something about a daddy or a lolly pop or some reference to "age". It's a sure bet.
Another thing to notice is, where and what they are wearing. Are in a mature establisment where most people are naked and engaged in sexual activites? Are they wearing things that a normal child of 7 or 14 or whatever they want to be does not wear normally?
Most of these sick people usually put some RP line in their profile like "Hi i'm 13 year old ... blah blah". Just AR them.
I found it disturbing that the holy word "fuck" is now being abused by these ageplayers. Yeah search for it in find (mature) and the first listing is some sort of haven for these sickos. Distrubing. We need more postal workers in SL.
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Aodhan McDunnough
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06-17-2006 00:48
Looks like someone should go out into the real world and see that there are adults of all heights ... down to 3 feet even.
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Lewis Nerd
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06-17-2006 01:58
From: Aodhan McDunnough Looks like someone should go out into the real world and see that there are adults of all heights ... down to 3 feet even. Yeah! Can't forget Mini Kiss can we? Lewis
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Aodhan McDunnough
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06-17-2006 02:15
From: Lewis Nerd Yeah! Can't forget Mini Kiss can we? Lewis AWWWWWESOMELY CUTE!
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Selador Cellardoor
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06-17-2006 05:23
From: Susie Boffin I am not sure what his point was because he couldn't quite express himself but I think he was saying that age play is wrong.
ROFL!
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Richie Waves
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06-17-2006 05:28
short does not equal Ageplay... you can tell Ageplayers very easily.. Child avatars with the groups "lolitas" and varios other secks clubs and generally icky stuff like "daddys lil girl" in there profiles.. icky horrid people that will break teh internets one day ; ;
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Norman Desmoulins
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06-17-2006 05:42
From: Wrom Morrison Short is not ageplay. And kid AV's are not necessarly ageplay.
BUT, if they have somewhere in their profile something about a daddy or a lolly pop or some reference to "age". It's a sure bet.
Hum... I think I have Daddy in my profile... I think my SL daughter has Daddy in her profile as well (and Mommy too)... she plays a 5-year old. And we don't do "ageplay" the way you are referring to it. We just have a normal "family" life, except that my SL wife calls me Master when she feels like it (which is usually just to play quite effectively with other people's heads).
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Nepenthes Ixchel
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06-17-2006 06:32
From: Susie Boffin My question is does a short av = ageplay? All ageplay involves short avatars, but only some short avatars are involved in ageplay. *waits for someone to come out with a counter example of ageplay that does not involve any short AVs*
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Wrom Morrison
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06-17-2006 06:36
From: Nepenthes Ixchel All ageplay involves short avatars, but only some short avatars are involved in ageplay.
*waits for someone to come out with a counter example of ageplay that does not involve any short AVs* Classic lolita as defined by Vladimir Nabokov is a girl with very long legs. Thus you see all those lolita outfits with long stockings etc to simulate this effect. Long legs tend to make the person tall (usually). And to the OP, carry a height meter. If someone calls you short, rez it and tell them to measure up. Chances are the average male character is over 7 foot tall in SL.
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Nepenthes Ixchel
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06-17-2006 06:45
From: Wrom Morrison Classic lolita as defined by Vladimir Nabokov is a girl with very long legs. I didn't know that. And I'm not at all embarressed to admit ignorance on a topic such as classic lolita ageplay.  I guess this means medium and tall avatars are into age play too? *puts on plywood cube avatar, just to be safe*
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Wrom Morrison
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06-17-2006 07:01
From: Nepenthes Ixchel I didn't know that. And I'm not at all embarressed to admit ignorance on a topic such as classic lolita ageplay.  I guess this means medium and tall avatars are into age play too? *puts on plywood cube avatar, just to be safe* Search for "lolita" on slx, usually gives outfits that define the classic lolita. Which is usually a teenage girl. The new age-play stuff involves people playing roles where they usually pretend to be younger than a teen. Which is totally sick.
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Zoe Llewelyn
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06-17-2006 08:21
Short = cute....not ageplay.
My avatar has been 5'0" or under since I started SL. Why? Because I think short is cute and tall is not. Zoe is not a child...she is me...39 year old adult that happens in SL to be a 4'9" tall Japanese woman. Am I Japanese in RL. No, nor am I really 4'9" (which is legally dwarf status in many countries). I am American Indian and 5'6" in life. Zoe does not look exactly like the real me. Her personality is 100% me...but the looks are whatever I feel like that day. Sometimes she is a catgirl, sometimes a horse avie, sometimes a 5'0" Hindu woman, sometimes a cyberpunk bitch from the future. That's the great think about SL...I can come here and socialize and be creative as me...but don't have to be stuck looking like the real me.
Someone needs to get a bit of experience and education if they think every short person IRL is a child. My best friend in High School was 4'10" tall and still is. A good friend down the road is an excellent blues guitarist and older than me even...yet he is only 4'6" tall. Short does not equal child IRL or in SL. Not everyone buys into the Cult of Tall that the media sells to us.
And Nep...Wrom is very correct. Classic ageplay...at least as it has appeared in popular culture in the western world and media has been about very adult looking teeanagers. Usually having relationships with middle aged men. In most classic "Lolita" style ageplay stories, it's also the teenage girl that seduces the older man against his better judgement. A fantasy for aging men I suppose. More recent types of ageplay involving prepubescent children is actually a very limited and small phoenomenon and a result of mental illness and hangups from childhood in the agressor. (My ex-husband was a Physchologist and dealt with child abuse specifically). Most adult to adult RL "ageplay" is of the Lolita nature, where the woman pretends to be a seductive teenager...not a baby.
The ageplay issue in SL has moved long ago beyond being a simple discussion of a potentially controversial issue and moved into a pure out witch hunt. Anyone short or any innocent child avatar is viewed by these witch hunters as a guarenteed and card carrying ageplayer regardless of the facts. It's sad that those of us that just like being short and think its more attractive than being 7' tall are gonna get harrassed and viewed this way...let alone those that play actual child avies for totally non-sexual reasons. It shows a very limited mind on the part of those who wish to jump to such comclusions without actual knowledge...but then prejudice (in its true meaning of pre-judging) always highlights a limited mind.
When people ask me now, Susie, if I am a child avie and do ageplay, I just say, "No, I am an adult dwarf. I got a serious fetish for dwarves...wanna play?" And then watch em run screaming.
-Zoe
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06-17-2006 08:29
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Zoe Llewelyn
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06-17-2006 08:38
OMG! Excellent Gnome avie! I love it...so adorable! =D
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Six Kennedy
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06-17-2006 10:10
I hate to over-simplify but.. some people are just 'tarded. My avatar is short and I have had someone imply something like that too. Thing is when I created my avatar all alone in the boonies in that place you land in when you enter the game, I saw the height slider 1-100 I figured that 60 would be tall enough to be normal and that 100 was probably used for monsters and things but when i reliazed that your supppposed to set your height to 100 and yer bewbs to 100 and yer behind 100 it was much too late and I was already use to the shape I made and kept it.
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Sunny McLuhan
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06-17-2006 10:46
From: Zoe Llewelyn When people ask me now, Susie, if I am a child avie and do ageplay, I just say, "No, I am an adult dwarf. I got a serious fetish for dwarves...wanna play?" And then watch em run screaming. Priceless!  Heh, I have avatars ranging from over 8 feet (werewolf) to 3'10 (pixie). I do hope I stumble upon someone while in my pixie form who accuse me of age-playing, just so I can turn into the werewolf and go "Boo!". 
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Selador Cellardoor
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06-18-2006 08:15
From: Six Kennedy I saw the height slider 1-100 I figured that 60 would be tall enough to be normal and that 100 was probably used for monsters and things but when i reliazed that your supppposed to set your height to 100 and yer bewbs to 100 and yer behind 100 it was much too late and I was already use to the shape I made and kept it. Ah, sweet innocence!
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Selador Cellardoor
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06-18-2006 08:20
From: Zoe Llewelyn In most classic "Lolita" style ageplay stories, it's also the teenage girl that seduces the older man against his better judgement. In the original "Lolita story", by Vladimir Nabokov, Lolita was twelve years old. Apart from being one of the finest artistic creations of the 20th century, 'Lolita' makes very interesting reading in the atmosphere of today.
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Seth Mandelbrot
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06-21-2006 07:19
From: Susie Boffin If any of you know me I have had a 5 foot all av for a long time but I was just in the Welcome Area, with my Mentor badge on, and someone IM'd me talking all about age play. I am not sure what his point was because he couldn't quite express himself but I think he was saying that age play is wrong.
I might be wrong about his concern for all I know. I haven't studied the issue. My question is does a short av = ageplay? There is a group called (IIRC) "Munchkins, Not Children" that I have seen several short avs walking around wearing the title of ("Petite Adult"  . Horrible name aside, you aren't the only short adult who has been mistaken for a child on grid before, it would seem.
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Freyr Elvehjem
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06-21-2006 07:31
For me short equals ageplay. In RL, I'm twenty-five year old and 1.7 meters tall. In SL, I'm twenty-five years old and 1.7 meters tall. I have yet to be asked/accused about being a child, but that's probably due to me staying away from the usual places where one finds the type of people of whom Six Kennedy did such a great profile. 
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Cricket Nelson
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short=ageplay
06-21-2006 08:06
Hi, I'm a short avie. I play 5, i have daddy an uncles in my profile and am definitely not into ageplay with anyone. There are lots of SL families that play just like your RL families...Daddies, mommies aunts uncles cousins aven grandparents. I think people judge the child avies to quickly. Short definitley doesnt = ageplay. Having the word daddy in your profile doesnt either.
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