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Yumi Murakami
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04-15-2006 11:03
From: Phedre Aquitaine I make a habit of finding new clothes, tweaking my shape until I'm unique, finding new hair to wear, and making my own skins.
Might I suggest you make content so you can have an impact?
The nice thing about SL - you can either sit and complain, or boot up photoshop... and change things. It's good advice, but I don't think it's a good thing that it has to be given: in other words, if SL is really boring for people who don't make things, that's a problem that needs to be addressed. Saying "you can just boot up photoshop"... well, Photoshop is US$649 for starters, and not everyone can draw.
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Enabran Templar
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Join date: 26 Aug 2004
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04-15-2006 11:09
From: Yumi Murakami It's good advice, but I don't think it's a good thing that it has to be given: in other words, if SL is really boring for people who don't make things, that's a problem that needs to be addressed.
Saying "you can just boot up photoshop"... well, Photoshop is US$649 for starters, and not everyone can draw. sl sux lol we should all just quit lolololol rofl
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Ordinal Malaprop
really very ordinary
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
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04-15-2006 11:10
The Gimp? Not to mention Avimator and Audacity.
I build all my own stuff, though I do occasionally buy clothes, as I'm rubbish at making clothes. But I'd be immensely surprised if anyone in SL looked the same as me, all told.
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Yumi Murakami
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04-15-2006 11:23
From: Ordinal Malaprop The Gimp? Not to mention Avimator and Audacity.
Sure, there are free alternatives. I still wanted to make the point that it's not really very good to suggest that SL is inevitably boring if you don't make stuff. Amongst other things, it's rather harsh to the people who have created the stuff already on the grid - none of that can alleviate boredom?
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Ordinal Malaprop
really very ordinary
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
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04-15-2006 11:27
Oh yes, quite. Just with appearance sliders and freebies one can create an av that's going to be entirely unique.
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Chloe Lowell
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Join date: 28 Mar 2006
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04-15-2006 15:15
From: Napoleon Astro Does anyone else think that Secondlife is starting to lose its originality?
everyone on second life pretty much looks the same.
they all have pretty much the same hair.
the same skin.
the same clothes.
the same shape.
I Mean If thats how you wanna be i have no problem but...where is the originality? No chance, SL is really diverse, more so than anything I have seen before. Also I think the entire experiance is unique. Like others suggested, try going to other places  SL = RP'ers heaven 
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Surreal Farber
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04-15-2006 18:23
If you're bored, maybe it's time to move on to something that interests you. The SL I inhabit is rich with diverse and fantabulous creatures. I get annoyed sometimes, but rarely bored.
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Dismay Wilde
Bleed Designs Owner
Join date: 12 Aug 2004
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04-15-2006 18:39
Taking a break from SL can be good..enjoy RL for once  But if your bored in game...take up a hobby..build...create..make new friends..gamble  theres endless things u can do..u just gotta choose to do them..if not move on..next game ;P
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Geepa Lazarno
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Join date: 7 Apr 2006
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04-15-2006 18:44
Lots of different looking folk down in Luskwood, and have you seen the dragons in Isle of Wyrms?
Also, Mickey has a couple of really cool sea-mammal, mole avs you really ought to see, as well as the tiniest avatar ever, that makes chibis look like those giant golems I have seen on occasion.
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Rechargeable Widget
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Join date: 28 Feb 2006
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Get a RL then... 
04-15-2006 18:44
If you are that bored with SL, I suggest you get a RL. I am fairly new to SL and I enjoy it. When/if it becomes boring, I will find something else. Nuff said...
RW
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Nyoko Salome
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Join date: 18 Jul 2005
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Wow!! 
04-15-2006 18:47
i kinda wish we had 'hot threads' again... this would be a prime one.  have you tried... contributing your own creations???  ENJOY!! 
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Calix Metropolitan
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04-15-2006 18:48
From: Napoleon Astro Does anyone else think that Secondlife is starting to lose its originality?
everyone on second life pretty much looks the same.
they all have pretty much the same hair.
the same skin.
the same clothes.
the same shape.
I Mean If thats how you wanna be i have no problem but...where is the originality? Sounds like a Hole song. '...and we all !@## the same in Olympia!!!!'
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Zoura Solzhenitsyn
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04-15-2006 19:12
From: Napoleon Astro Does anyone else think that Secondlife is starting to lose its originality?
everyone on second life pretty much looks the same.
they all have pretty much the same hair.
the same skin.
the same clothes.
the same shape.
I Mean If thats how you wanna be i have no problem but...where is the originality? Then you need to meet me when I feel like modding my avs.. So far I've been set apart by most people, using everyday styles you see in SL, BUT!.... I do them in a different light and always turn heads.. I walk into a club full of people and atleast half (if not more) says nice look.. But I rarely mod any new av I get (I'm a furry >.>  So I'm mostly stuck looking like most of them .. cause they just go storebought and don't bother. Though .. I do dress nice ^^ So look my up sometime and I'll those a few looks at your way mabye
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Kenzie Craven
Pretty sure...
Join date: 10 Sep 2004
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Le tough to answer.
04-15-2006 19:34
I think in my honest opinion that... Yes and no SL is boring. I've done it all.. I've sorta seen it all. I've got an alt. I've been to WA many times. I've gotten into RPG and and and I've made so much stuff on this game... It's cluttering my inventory. Mostly the trash floder lol. BUT THEN! There is so much thing's I also haven't done.. Like scriptting (looks way to hard) Or drawn with a tablet... or met every single person in SL. Seen new sims etc. Anyways what i am getting at is that... yes some people in this game copy cat each other... maybe cause they like the style.. or cause they were inspired by someone to wear the trend. Same skin... yeah that's really common. Cause it's probably a really well done skin. Example... Lost thereian's new skin. EVERYONE in sl had it. Maybe not everyone... For hair.. ETD girl alot of people wear that. Not because people are unoriginal... it's their taste.. maybe people just have the same taste. Nylon and Toast started a new trendable trend. I alot of people started wearing their clothes. You may find some really 'original' people out there. It's either a fad or an 'it' that people just wanna be with 'it' and that's people. I know alot of original people. Aimee weber... butterfly wings... toast and nylon...elka.... annnd annnnnnd you should come meet some of my friends... the list goes on. I dont think we all look alike. pancake stryker. the list is long. Im usually bored these days. Until i heard this saying. 'When you say you're bored... you're basicly saying that YOU are a boring person' Annnnd im rambling so I'll just read and be quiet. I just wanna play sl. shout random crap..
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Psyra Extraordinaire
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04-20-2006 10:30
From: Huns Valen I disagree on every point. I've seen plenty of variation. Perhaps you should start travelling in different circles so you are not looking at the same people all the time? Agreed muchly. (With Huns that is) SL presents something new every day if you explore. I dare say, every HOUR.
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Norinn Richard
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Join date: 2 Nov 2005
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04-20-2006 10:58
Go to http://www.roamsearch.com/ and punch "Random". Visit whatever comes up. Instant boredom cure.
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Cindy Claveau
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Join date: 16 May 2005
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04-20-2006 11:49
The core truth here is that anyone who claims SL is "boring" is merely admitting that they, themselves, are boring. There are no limits to Second Life -- which takes the responsibility for being entertained OUT of the hands of game developers and plops it squarely into the laps of users. That can be difficult for some people, I realize. But it's certainly not the fault of anyone else but the subscriber. As for everyone looking alike, methinks someone's been hanging out at clubs too much - most (not all) of the guys are undead versions of Keanu Reeves or Christian Slater, and the girls (again, not all) lean toward the Pam Anderson hoochie look. It's like my daughter's school - if you're not wearing the latest designer fashions/shapes from designer X, you're just not cool. Then today I was in a popular mall, shopping for something different (ok, I didn't have a goal, I just wanted to buy something) and in walked a pair of Slers that made me do a double take. One was dressed like a unicorn, complete with a tail and smoking a cigar. The other was an extremely fat man with big, spikey hair and low-slung pants (new definition to a 'crack problem'). They were having a conversation that sounded like some kind of bizarre combination of secret code and Buddhist chant. I stared for a long time and never did buy anything 
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Yumi Murakami
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04-20-2006 12:47
From: Cindy Claveau The core truth here is that anyone who claims SL is "boring" is merely admitting that they, themselves, are boring. There are no limits to Second Life -- which takes the responsibility for being entertained OUT of the hands of game developers and plops it squarely into the laps of users. That can be difficult for some people, I realize. But it's certainly not the fault of anyone else but the subscriber. No, that's not a fair thing to say. If it's really true that "SL takes the responsibility for being entertained out of the hands of developers and gives it to users", then it's not the users' fault that it makes this controversial, unusual, and not-automatically-a-good-idea decision. It's not the user's "fault" that they're boring, and there could still have been good money in entertaining them, that you're losing out on. There are no limits to Second Life, but there are limits to people. The fact that SL doesn't allow people to overcome those limits is a limit on SL.
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Cindy Claveau
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04-20-2006 13:04
From: Yumi Murakami No, that's not a fair thing to say. If it's really true that "SL takes the responsibility for being entertained out of the hands of developers and gives it to users", then it's not the users' fault that it makes this controversial, unusual, and not-automatically-a-good-idea decision. It's not the user's "fault" that they're boring, and there could still have been good money in entertaining them, that you're losing out on. There are no limits to Second Life, but there are limits to people. The fact that SL doesn't allow people to overcome those limits is a limit on SL. Except some of those people will never be happy. There are no "Boredom Anonymous" groups that I know of, it's not mentioned in the DSM IV or recognized by the APA, so until it is I believe people can choose to not be bored -- it IS their fault because it's their decision not to look hard enough. And I'm not sure what SL could possibly do to fix their problem.
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Rude Prunes
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04-20-2006 13:07
LL could help people if they extend the popular places list to 50 or a 100. I find using search is no use as I don't know what I'm looking for if I'm looking for something new. I find myself going to the same places on the list because I'm intimidated by the sheer size of the world and don't know where to start!
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Yumi Murakami
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04-20-2006 13:19
From: Cindy Claveau Except some of those people will never be happy. There are no "Boredom Anonymous" groups that I know of, it's not mentioned in the DSM IV or recognized by the APA, so until it is I believe people can choose to not be bored -- it IS their fault because it's their decision not to look hard enough. And I'm not sure what SL could possibly do to fix their problem. The problem is that people might choose not to be bored by doing something other than playing SL. Then, they report that SL is boring. It's the player, not the avatar, who gets bored - and the player can choose from a whole bunch of activities that aren't on the Find menu, nor anywhere else in SL. If a player is feeling bored in SL, what encouragement does it give them to search for non-boring activity within SL, as opposed to shutting SL off and going to find a different non-boring activity in their real lives?
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Cindy Claveau
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04-20-2006 13:25
From: Yumi Murakami The problem is that people might choose not to be bored by doing something other than playing SL. Then, they report that SL is boring. It's the player, not the avatar, who gets bored - and the player can choose from a whole bunch of activities that aren't on the Find menu, nor anywhere else in SL. It's their choice to do something else, which is perfectly valid. It has nothing to do with a whole-cloth assertion that "SL is boring". It's only boring to them because they either are incapable of being entertained, aren't making the right in-world choices for entertainment, or aren't smart/talented/lucky enough to be able to create something for themselves that will entertain them. None of that is SL's fault. From: someone If a player is feeling bored in SL, what encouragement does it give them to search for non-boring activity within SL, as opposed to shutting SL off and going to find a different non-boring activity in their real lives? It's not anyone else's job to encourage them. And logging off can sometimes be the very best decision. I know, I've done it lots.
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Blip Lowell
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Join date: 19 Mar 2006
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04-20-2006 13:33
From: Napoleon Astro Does anyone else think that Secondlife is starting to lose its originality? everyone on second life pretty much looks the same. they all have pretty much the same hair. the same skin. the same clothes. the same shape.
If they look too grey, you just have lots of lag.  Seriously, hang around the sandboxes, or the newbie zones. Maybe I am new, and didn't know SL months ago, but I have seen lots of original ideas there, and much diversity.
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Maxx Mackenzie
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04-20-2006 14:03
Heck! read the forums!! The drama is intense, not even Full Metal Alchemist can top the drama here, its awesome!! and humour 
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Yumi Murakami
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04-20-2006 14:04
From: Cindy Claveau It's their choice to do something else, which is perfectly valid. It has nothing to do with a whole-cloth assertion that "SL is boring". Yes it does. They're searching for a non-boring experience for themselves, the player, the real person. They give SL a try. Now, since they at that time have no particular attachment to SL, and (given that they may not want to make money in SL) there is no clear prospect of the entertainment reward being greater than it would be for other activities, why should they give their try-out of SL any more time or effort than any other activity they're trying out? As experienced residents we know that SL is fragmented, that there's all kinds of different things inside it and similar. But new folks don't do that. They initially evaluate SL as a single, whole experience - and if it can't live up to that evaluation they won't stick around. And no, it's not a good thing that they leave. Losing customers is never a good thing. From: someone It's only boring to them because they either are incapable of being entertained, aren't making the right in-world choices for entertainment, or aren't smart/talented/lucky enough to be able to create something for themselves that will entertain them. None of that is SL's fault. It's SL's fault that it makes these things necessary. It's not because they're incapable of being entertained, the other stuff they are doing will entertain them just fine. They're not making the right choices - well, why is SL offering them the wrong choices in the first place? Some people just won't find the creation process entertaining. And I think it is, at least a little bit, my job to encourage them - that's why I do it 
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