New Verification Rules bringing in Underagers

*realises i am posting after i said i wouldnt*

I agree with second comment and despite my intentions not to, each time i run into them i will take details of there name and the conversation confirming them as underage and on a what two weekly basis" submit them to the reporting, but will still hold stance that its not our problem to fix but i will make the effort in what time frames i hvae, simply on Karmianna Hartunian's argument.

and Luciftias Neurocam you have brought nothing contructive to this and i agree with Eryn Curie in her statement.

and onionpencil Musashi, i am not pretending i am concerned about the children, as a mother in real life myself its all i do 90% of the time, dont make assumptions about me and my character. Also each time my computer dials up to the net my Hash ID changes so yes, yes it would be easy. and would your case stand up in English courts, i very much dout it as an ex-legal executive i know my legal stuff, and i doubt our home office would extradite me to the US for this case as minor as this, Its like communisim, works in theory, not really in practice though.

Here is some suggestions I posted I think it is up to the users now to try and close the door since the LL's primary concern is getting more members.

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No it wouldn't... your Hash ID is unique to your PC, not to your connection at the time. You are thinking of IP Address, which is totally different.

They ban your Hash ID, they've banned your PC altogether.

The point is also that withholding information from LL about someone breaking ToS is AIDING them in continuing to breaking ToS. Fact of the matter is, that is also in breach of ToS and can get you banned.

It doesn't matter anymore about why they are there and who made the mistake of letting them in... what does matter is what WE do when we find out someone is underage.Well, those are indeed the only choises that we have with this... we can do something about it, which would be reporting it... we can ignore it and do nothing, in which case there's be no topic here for me to answer... or we can just post about it on the forums and basically whinge, which is what's happening here.

Think about what you posted... it boils down to "this is the problem and despite being able to do something about it myself, I won't"


If you did wish to protect them, if you wanted to make sure they don't end up in a seedy strip club, you'd have been reporting them the moment you found out they were underage...

Do you not think i didnt think about what i was typing before i posted. Am sorry if i thought the forum was someone where to voice opinions etc, whoops. so bringing attention to a problem. I AM NOT JUST USING THE FORUM TO WHINGE!! and if you percive that i am then what about all other other residents, i know we will ban that from the forums, that includes what nearly every post.

about panning my hash key, hun how do you know i havent got more than one computer in my house? wheres theres a will theres a way.

PLus i am not withholding information, i said in yet again an earlier post i didnt get there names because due to computer overheaty problems by the time i was in the middle of my first report my computer froze, then re-starting itself, then doing a check disc to check for consistency on my computer drives, losing all there conversation and people who were there. so HENCE not withholding information here so can you please stop hammering the whole "your gonna get banned". we gather that you all think that, i get the picture, now change the record.

I said in my last post i came up with a decent comprimise based on credible arguments from people who didnt insult in the post, you ahve quoted from it so i gather you ahve read it.

and i said before please dont call me a liar by saying that the underage people's insterest arnt the key focus here. i said before and will again, i am a mother and i do care sincerely, with saying that you are making judgements on my character as not only a second life, but as a mum and a person. and my comprimise to makes notes of the conversation and names of the poeple who admit they are underage will be reported in batch's say once every week / two weeks as oppossed to each time, i dont want my e-mail cluttered with report abuse e-mails.

*checks all your posts in this thread, sees no mention of any computer problem, nor any mention that you had tried to report them... does however spot where you mention having had no intention of reporting them at all...*

Am I invisible? No mention for me?

Don't the little darlings have some sort of parent or guardian paying attention to what they are looking at on the internet? Parents- take responsibility for the actions of your children! Pull the plug out and don't let them on instead of blaming LL. The biggest problem with the new registration is grown-up idiots!!

As a parent there is no way i would allow my children into SL, my children are 13 & 15.

Recently in a very adult area i cams across a "lady" very down on herself she told me how she wanted a man in her life to take charge of her, i sat and talked to her for a while but something was not right. She seemed mature but after a while she confessed she was 14, as soon as she said that i contacted live help to see what i should do as well as reporting her. THe log was sent with her confession i tried to keep her with me as i felt were we were ( i had moved her to another quiet location before i found out her age) was safe. I felt she would of gone looking for that man.

My point is this I have seen other chat become ruined by allowing the restrictions to be lessened to allow no proof of age. Since this is a way to get ppl to try is there a way that they can be restricted in what they can access like they cant get into the mature areas unless they verify their age ?

When they get grossed out they will leave.
...
Hopefully.
Lets have a grid-wide orgy!

Ugh.

Absolutely not.

Maybe if people that do not have age verification be restricted an not allowed into the Mature area of SL

on the upside? the furry community is florishing.

It's.. It's a STAMPEDE!!!

From some of these bonehead replies i have to wonder who is on LL's payroll.

THEY opened the door. I'm not going to check the fucking tickets.

By this time i'm pretty sure that LL doesn't care. They pretty much handed in their badges to the residents to deal with it. :/

It'll be fixed when a parent finds their kid watching porn in SL.
It's just bound to happen.
Kinda sad though. Thought LL would be.. I'd hate to say it but... Smarter?
Didn't that just happen to MySpace or something?

Of course that means SL gets in the news and.. ah I see. Using kids to gain publicity maybe?
That might be over thought a bit. But honestly I dunno what to think anymore.

I'm sure LL wouldn't stoop to that level.
But I also find it hard to believe they would be ignorant of this situation.

I can see the headlines now. "Child caught playing an online prostitute in Second Life."
The hidden sex scenes in Grand Theft Auto would be nothing.

Sure I guess its the parents fault for not hovering around their kids all day. Forget the fact they have to work all day to support and feed them. Forget the parents are human and have to sleep.
Forget that most housholds have only one parent now.

It would be nice if these companise were a little more thoughtful to these problems they "unknowingly" cause. And maybe take responsibility for their own actions? Just my opinion.
No hard feelings to LL really. But it does say something about the company itself. But their not the only ones obviously.

I have to agree with Kat when she said that these under-age users will be drawn to the adult areas as an easy way to make money. I've seen it happen -- and yes, I reported all of them that I saw -- but it still gives me the heebies that it is, in essence, allowed to happen.

I could care less about the immature behaviour and "drama" aspect, as I've seen unbelievable "drama" from adults and I love to have fun as much as any kid does, but I'm worried about the fact that these children will be exposed to things that they aren't supposed to be exposed to at that age.

Granted, it's their or their parents' problem that they're being exposed to these things in a plainly-labeled adult environment, but do they really need to be shown the neon sign of "NO AGE VERIFICATION" over the gates to Adult Second Life?

Why have Teen Second Life at all, then?

/ curmudgeon.