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Stroker Serpentine
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Join date: 8 Nov 2003
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02-17-2006 21:52
I have to admit..
I am glad to see the DI go (Developer Incentive) I have been a regular recipient of the DI and have stood by and watched dwell become "gamed" by camping chairs and dancepads.

Maybe now LL will come up with a program that will reward those who use creativity, ingenuity and imagination to attract avatars to their builds/shops/clubs.

Not "Zombie ATM's"

Just my .02 worth...


(P.S. If you want to flame..stick a bic to your arse)
Cristiano Midnight
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02-17-2006 22:04
* sings' Bye Bye to the Second Life DI' to the tune of American Pie *
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Aimee Weber
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02-17-2006 22:32
sha na naaaa naaaa
sha na naaaa naaaa....

HEEEY HEEEY....

GOOOD BYYYYEEEEE


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Magnum Serpentine
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02-17-2006 22:36
I have removed my post because it will do very little to help those who depended on Dwell to pay for their sims, bring it back.
Eboni Khan
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02-17-2006 22:37
Who is the Star Chamber? Is that like the Chamber of Commerce and do they throw a nice luncheon?
Magnum Serpentine
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02-17-2006 22:40
From: Eboni Khan
Who is the Star Chamber? Is that like the Chamber of Commerce and do they throw a nice luncheon?



The Star Chamber is a group that seems to be in charge, yet are not placed in power by normal means.
Magnum Serpentine
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02-17-2006 22:42
From: Stroker Serpentine
I have to admit..
I am glad to see the DI go (Developer Incentive) I have been a regular recipient of the DI and have stood by and watched dwell become "gamed" by camping chairs and dancepads.

Maybe now LL will come up with a program that will reward those who use creativity, ingenuity and imagination to attract avatars to their builds/shops/clubs.

Not "Zombie ATM's"

Just my .02 worth...


(P.S. If you want to flame..stick a bic to your arse)



And what about those, who never had camping chairs (Which were legal, there was nothing in the books against them nothing at all) and who depended on Dwell to help pay for their sims...

Oh yes, what about those that were told and promissed that Dwell would be around for years? They paid for and bought their sims based upon this promiss. They feel left in the lurch now.
Introvert Petunia
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02-17-2006 22:44
From: someone
Also, some land owners (And I can tell you they never had camping chairs) consider the end of Dwell a Breach of Contract...
I await the numerous groundless lawsuits that are certain to be filed for perceived "damages" smaller than the relevant filing fees. You wouldn't by any chance happen to know what contract is allegedly breached, would you?
Magnum Serpentine
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02-17-2006 22:49
From: Introvert Petunia
I await the numerous groundless lawsuits that are certain to be filed for perceived "damages" smaller than the relevant filing fees. You wouldn't by any chance happen to know what contract is allegedly breached, would you?



I had removed this post. Please do me a favior and when I say I remove a post, don't comment on it. I did so because I felt the post was not approrate.
Gabe Lippmann
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02-17-2006 22:59
From: Magnum Serpentine
I had removed this post. Please do me a favior and when I say I remove a post, don't comment on it. I did so because I felt the post was not approrate.


Ahhh, but there are no take backs. You have birthed those words to the world. They live their own lives now.
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Magnum Serpentine
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02-17-2006 23:02
From: Gabe Lippmann
Ahhh, but there are no take backs. You have birthed those words to the world. They live their own lives now.



And I can choose not to comment except to say they were not approrate and I removed them.
Enabran Templar
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02-17-2006 23:35
From: Magnum Serpentine
And I can choose not to comment except to say they were not approrate and I removed them.


You mispelled "not remotely related to any true concept within the scope of non-Gorean reality" as "not appropriate."

I don't mean to bust your chops, though, I mean, the keys are right next to one another. Anyway, you made your comments on your very thoughtful post, don't begrudge the rest of the board the same delicious opportunity. :)
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Artemis Fate
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02-17-2006 23:43
From: Magnum Serpentine
And what about those, who never had camping chairs (Which were legal, there was nothing in the books against them nothing at all) and who depended on Dwell to help pay for their sims...

Oh yes, what about those that were told and promissed that Dwell would be around for years? They paid for and bought their sims based upon this promiss. They feel left in the lurch now.


oooooh

Does that mean the gorean sims are going to start collapsing? That'd be an unexpected bonus.

And on a topical note, see you later DI, not really going to miss you and your camping chairs hehe
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Jillian Callahan
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02-17-2006 23:46
DI wasn't nessesary. See, eventually we will have robots manufacture our dwell for us... oh, wait! :eek:
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Boliver Oddfellow
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Join date: 22 Sep 2005
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02-17-2006 23:56
Bye Bye DI, you were good in your prime then they gamed you and made die so sadly we wave bye bye

Lets hope the next idea is better and the asshats wont game it. To all those who are openly moaning they never had camp chairs and they need their DI. Dont bitch to LL. Find the Owners of the top 5 places on the favorites list and torch them- they and their cohorts did this. LL just stopped it.
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Lewis Nerd
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02-18-2006 00:41
From: Boliver Oddfellow
Lets hope the next idea is better and the asshats wont game it. To all those who are openly moaning they never had camp chairs and they need their DI. Dont bitch to LL. Find the Owners of the top 5 places on the favorites list and torch them- they and their cohorts did this. LL just stopped it.


Perhaps if people were more interested in providing a quality experience, and not how much real cash they could make out of a GAME, then the balance might change anyway?

DI was based on traffic, which was fluid anyway. If your whole private sim had nothing of interest on it, you wouldn't get visitors and their L$. Spending beyond your means and including a DI payout that may or may not have been part of your income is poor accounting.

Each month my salary arrives in the bank, which is pretty much the same each month. I can't go out and buy a new TV on the thought that I might just win £5000 on the lottery during that month - I wait until my finances are built up enough so I can buy it. It's not rocket science.

The biggest problem with the DI system is that the more land you own, the more visitors you get - which, as we all know, size isn't everything. Many of the smaller places I have seen have much more interesting content than the so-called "most popular places" in game, which are mostly laggy clubs. If the bonus was calculated on something such as:

Traffic x 1000 / sqm of plot

Then you'd get a far more accurate picture of the true traffic rather than the catchment area of a plot. I'm lucky if my traffic hits 100 in a day, on my 2000 sq m plot - but at least I know that every visitor that appears is there because they have picked it, rather than how much I am paying them to sit there for hours on end.

I think that LL should randomly reset regions that are full of campers, so that the genuine players can go back there if they want to - and the zombies don't benefit, who after all are the real reason we have seen this change occur.

Lewis
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02-18-2006 01:24
Ya know, I was bored yesterday and had a little $L burning a hole in my pocket. Said to self, "Self, we haven't needlessly shopped in awhile, lets go browse!" I was hoping to head to a lag-free private sim with top designers...I am so out of the loop these days now though.

One thing I DID know was that I did not want to patronize any lag-hole with campers.
Searched Popular Places and in Find for a good 15 mins...ahhh finally found one that didn't advertise camping, off I went only to land in the middle of...you guessed it...a lag-hole of campers! Ok on second glance they WERE advertising camping, but I hadn't even noticed cause the rest of their ad seemed enticing enough.

After multiple relogs and tons of time spent waiting for stuff to rez, I left after an hour or more of lagging torture without spending a single $1L. Call me old-school, but this is for the birds.

DI is a wonderful idea but not under its present rules & regs...there is has GOT to be a way to give rewards where rewards are merited. And you thought RATINGS were gamed back in the day??? LMFAO!

ATTN: MALL/STORE OWNERS....if you have camping crap set up, I will NOT be giving you my business or dwell/ traffic/whatever the fuck its called now. I am only one person, but I believe I speak for many.
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Magnum Serpentine
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02-18-2006 02:39
From: Enabran Templar
You mispelled "not remotely related to any true concept within the scope of non-Gorean reality" as "not appropriate."

I don't mean to bust your chops, though, I mean, the keys are right next to one another. Anyway, you made your comments on your very thoughtful post, don't begrudge the rest of the board the same delicious opportunity. :)



I am tired of you.

My post had nothing to do with anything Gorean

The fact that you mentioned it means you are attacking my lifestyle

So for that reason, I have reported your post....

Little good it will do me however.....

Edited to add: If the Negative ratings were still around, I would look you up and give you a triple negative just to remind you of how mean you are.
Introvert Petunia
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02-18-2006 03:26
From: Magnum Serpentine
I had removed this post. Please do me a favior and when I say I remove a post, don't comment on it. I did so because I felt the post was not approrate.
I humbly ask your forgiveness for quoting a passage from your post (which I had intentionally removed the attribution from in order to comment on the concept, not the author) and making a sardonic comment on the absurdity of it and failing to check back to see that you had retracted your words. Or, put another way, please don't hate me because I don't pay detailed attention to slightest alteration you may make to your posts at any time and then modify my responses accordingly.

I won't even mention that had you not "outed" yourself by complaining about my unattributed quote that subsequent readers might have no idea to whom I had originally responded. I do congratulate you on manufacturing something to be irritated about though; that must not have been easy.

If, in the future, you would like me to alter my un-attributed quotation of your public postings, please send me a request via PM; it is hard for me to ensure that fair comment I make on others' posts remain consistent with their post hoc editing. kthxbye.
Foolish Frost
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Join date: 7 Mar 2005
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02-18-2006 05:06
<raised eyebrow>

People... I KNOW you have better things to be doing than sniping at each other.

And if you don't, then FIND something better to do. It's petty, degrading, and so far from entertaining after the millionth time that I want to pull out my wiffle-bat and start 'explaining' my poor reaction to it anymore.

Good GOD. THIS is why we have to have res-mods, kids. Because we're incapable of acting like adults.

:mad:

Now go to your rooms, and NO SOUP FOR YOU!
Nepenthes Ixchel
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02-18-2006 05:13
From: Foolish Frost
I KNOW you have better things to be doing than sniping at each other.


I was hoping for a lifestyle flamewar, because I dislike Goreans and wanted to cheer someone on. But that won't actually help the topic at all, so I guess I shouldn't start one. *pouts*

Has there been any word on a replacment for DI? I'm cool with losing my 5L a day from having a 2000 traffic house but there are some nice places supported by dwell that are worth keeping.
Foolish Frost
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02-18-2006 05:25
From: Nepenthes Ixchel
Has there been any word on a replacment for DI?


No word for us commoners. Don't know what rumors have leaked, either.
Introvert Petunia
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02-18-2006 05:34
From: someone
Now go to your rooms, and NO SOUP FOR YOU!
But... but... but... HE started it! :(
Magnum Serpentine
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02-18-2006 06:42
From: Introvert Petunia
I humbly ask your forgiveness for quoting a passage from your post (which I had intentionally removed the attribution from in order to comment on the concept, not the author) and making a sardonic comment on the absurdity of it and failing to check back to see that you had retracted your words. Or, put another way, please don't hate me because I don't pay detailed attention to slightest alteration you may make to your posts at any time and then modify my responses accordingly.

I won't even mention that had you not "outed" yourself by complaining about my unattributed quote that subsequent readers might have no idea to whom I had originally responded. I do congratulate you on manufacturing something to be irritated about though; that must not have been easy.

If, in the future, you would like me to alter my un-attributed quotation of your public postings, please send me a request via PM; it is hard for me to ensure that fair comment I make on others' posts remain consistent with their post hoc editing. kthxbye.



your ok. I Believe that we all can agree DI will be an explosive issue for some time to come
Magnum Serpentine
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02-18-2006 06:44
From: Foolish Frost
<raised eyebrow>

People... I KNOW you have better things to be doing than sniping at each other.

And if you don't, then FIND something better to do. It's petty, degrading, and so far from entertaining after the millionth time that I want to pull out my wiffle-bat and start 'explaining' my poor reaction to it anymore.

Good GOD. THIS is why we have to have res-mods, kids. Because we're incapable of acting like adults.

:mad:

Now go to your rooms, and NO SOUP FOR YOU!



I would like to know what GOrean has to do with this... And thank you I shall go to my room where my computer is, and I dispise Soup :)
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