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Bri Koolhaas

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01-04-2006 13:23

From: Robin Linden

Many people who own land near telehubs have expressed unhappiness with the recent deployment of pinpoint teleporting. The short leadtime between the announcement and the actual implementation of the feature made adequate planning for telehub land difficult.

To compensate landowners who currently own land in the telehub regions we would like to offer to buy back telehub parcels in these regions at a price of L$10 per square meter. Parcels are eligible for Linden buy back if they were purchased between August 1 and December 8, 2005 and are located within 128 meters of the telehub (128 meters being within the line of sight of the telehub landing point).

If you own an eligible parcel that you'd like to sell back to Linden Lab, please send an email to [email]support@lindenlab.com[/email], with the subject heading Land Buyback. You should hear back from us between January 3 and January 6.

When I bought my hub land in Siona it was NOT just a random buy..it was NOT a money making scheme or BIG mall at the hub idea. It was bought with lots of thought and consideration and LOTS of L's too ! I bought it because it was close to hub in a sim that was SO over priced I did not need to worry about a mall or club being built there. I bought for one purpose only.

TO GIVE TRINGO PLAYERS AN EASILY ACCESSED LAG FREE TRINGO SPOT !

I made no profit I even BOUGHT L's to give away ! but then you stacked servers and it got laggy...and THEN you killed the hubs!
One other bought in the sim since you killed the hubs but not at same price I did...Philo had to take a HUGE loss just to get that one other small lot sold

I just ask you do the right thing. Give me my money back for a the product I paid for that no longer exsists

I have set my land for sale for EXACTLY what I paid for it...please come buy it and compensate me

P.S.This is what I'm e-mailing support also

Enabran Templar

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01-04-2006 13:35

And so it begins.

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Ordinal Malaprop

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01-04-2006 13:38

NO!

Cory Edo

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01-04-2006 13:40

I like parody threads.

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Margaret Mfume

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01-04-2006 13:41

How many forums did you post this in? I just saw it in Land and Economy.

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Jonquille Noir

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Join date: 17 Jan 2004

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01-04-2006 13:41

If you just bought it to give people a place to play Tringo, why do you want money back for it? Can people no longer play Tringo there now that it isn't a Hub spot?

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Chris Wilde

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01-04-2006 13:44

From: Bri Koolhaas

I bought for one purpose only. TO GIVE TRINGO PLAYERS AN EASILY ACCESSED LAG FREE TRINGO SPOT ! *snip* Give me my money back for a the product I paid for that no longer exsists

Are you saying that with P2P, that your land no longer provides tringo players an easily accessed lag free tringo spot?

Siggy Romulus

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01-04-2006 13:49

Was about to say that Chris - with P2P it would be very accessable - and with the malls clearing out dare I say less laggy - seems like its now made it the ideal place to have such a thing.

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Azrael Baphomet

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01-04-2006 13:58

If this is trollage, it is poorly thought out trollage, as others have pointed out.

Bri Koolhaas

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01-04-2006 14:22

From: Jonquille Noir

If you just bought it to give people a place to play Tringo, why do you want money back for it? Can people no longer play Tringo there now that it isn't a Hub spot?

Because the land has been devalued plain and simple. IF I had known they were going to put P2P in like they did I sure as hell wouldn't have bought it !

Ordinal Malaprop

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01-04-2006 14:24

If I'd known that the dollar would fall so much I'd have kept more money in pounds sterling....

Siggy Romulus

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01-04-2006 14:26

From: someone

I bought for one purpose only.

TO GIVE TRINGO PLAYERS AN EASILY ACCESSED LAG FREE TRINGO SPOT !

Can you still play tringo there?
Is it easily accessed?
Did P2P teleporting increase lag?

Nuff said.

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From: Jesse Linden

I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread

Bri Koolhaas

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01-04-2006 14:28

From: Ordinal Malaprop

If I'd known that the dollar would fall so much I'd have kept more money in pounds sterling....

and dollars are devalued by hub lands removal...GD your a fuggin GENIUS !

Ordinal Malaprop

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01-04-2006 14:30

That was an analogy.

Bri Koolhaas

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01-04-2006 14:31

From: Siggy Romulus

Can you still play tringo there?
Is it easily accessed?
Did P2P teleporting increase lag?

Nuff said.

I paid premium for location. It had value. No longer has same value. (another genius)

Ordinal Malaprop

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01-04-2006 14:35

Tough cookies.

Chris Wilde

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01-04-2006 14:38

From: Bri Koolhaas

I paid premium for location. It had value. No longer has same value. (another genius)

If this is all about money and land value then why put things in HUGE letters saying you did it for the tringo people to enjoy? This is about money. Money you spent from your own pocket. Thats important. And there is NO need to paint yourself as a tringo savoir out to fight lag for all. Just state the financial facts and your assumptions and how this has impacted you. The "I did it for the children" attitude you spam in bold letters is uncalled for and hurts your position more than it helps because we know its about money. You arnt presenting your case to mommy and daddy, you are presenting it to LL, a business. They are perfectly fine in speaking in business/financial terms.

MJ Hathor

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Join date: 17 Mar 2005

Posts: 901

01-04-2006 14:38

Bri,

Consider this a lesson learned. Do not buy land expecting it to have the same value as when you bought it. A number of things can change the value of land in SL. Unfortunately, If you had purchased this land before the Buy Back dates then you'll just have to cut your losses.

MJ

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Toy LaFollette

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01-04-2006 14:40

From: Bri Koolhaas

I paid premium for location. It had value. No longer has same value. (another genius)

sooo it wasnt about the tringo, was about land speculation? Im getting confused here.

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Azrael Baphomet

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01-04-2006 14:44

From: Toy LaFollette

sooo it wasnt about the tringo, was about land speculation? Im getting confused here.

It was apparently about finding a reason to post a complaint.

Ordinal Malaprop

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01-04-2006 14:46

Three complaints.

Or rather, the same complaint three times.

Jonquille Noir

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Posts: 4,025

01-04-2006 14:49

So you lied about only buying it to have a place for others to play Tringo. You bought it because you thought it was valuable and it was an investment. Why didn't you just say that in the first place?

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Toy LaFollette

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01-04-2006 14:49

Ooo my it boogles the mind

We all take losses from time to time. We either accept them and move on or we have a hissy-fit.. Look at it this way, since you do claim taxes on money earned in SL, use it for a write off

Assuming you do claim earnings

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Bri Koolhaas

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Join date: 21 Dec 2004

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01-04-2006 15:09

From: MJ Hathor

Bri,

Consider this a lesson learned. Do not buy land expecting it to have the same value as when you bought it. A number of things can change the value of land in SL. Unfortunately, If you had purchased this land before the Buy Back dates then you'll just have to cut your losses.

MJ

I bought for location...I paid premium (HUGE) for location because there WERE hubs which drew people there also. LL ripped them out very quickly. I like P2P. LL knew at the time I bought my land that hubs were to be removed. I didn't and yes I did buy in that time frame

I use to be able to buy and sell land and actually make a little money to..but that was changed with advanced notice that they were making changes unlike the hub deal.
I truely believe there should be an asshole tax on people that post on forums just to be one (not you MJ...and ty for your kind responce)

Bri Koolhaas

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Join date: 21 Dec 2004

Posts: 48

01-04-2006 15:10

From: Ordinal Malaprop

Three complaints.

Or rather, the same complaint three times.

or purhaps to get PR ? (damn your such a genius!)

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Bri Koolhaas Registered User Join date: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 48	01-04-2006 13:23 From: Robin Linden Many people who own land near telehubs have expressed unhappiness with the recent deployment of pinpoint teleporting. The short leadtime between the announcement and the actual implementation of the feature made adequate planning for telehub land difficult. To compensate landowners who currently own land in the telehub regions we would like to offer to buy back telehub parcels in these regions at a price of L$10 per square meter. Parcels are eligible for Linden buy back if they were purchased between August 1 and December 8, 2005 and are located within 128 meters of the telehub (128 meters being within the line of sight of the telehub landing point). If you own an eligible parcel that you'd like to sell back to Linden Lab, please send an email to [email]support@lindenlab.com[/email], with the subject heading Land Buyback. You should hear back from us between January 3 and January 6. When I bought my hub land in Siona it was NOT just a random buy..it was NOT a money making scheme or BIG mall at the hub idea. It was bought with lots of thought and consideration and LOTS of L's too ! I bought it because it was close to hub in a sim that was SO over priced I did not need to worry about a mall or club being built there. I bought for one purpose only. TO GIVE TRINGO PLAYERS AN EASILY ACCESSED LAG FREE TRINGO SPOT ! I made no profit I even BOUGHT L's to give away ! but then you stacked servers and it got laggy...and THEN you killed the hubs! One other bought in the sim since you killed the hubs but not at same price I did...Philo had to take a HUGE loss just to get that one other small lot sold I just ask you do the right thing. Give me my money back for a the product I paid for that no longer exsists I have set my land for sale for EXACTLY what I paid for it...please come buy it and compensate me P.S.This is what I'm e-mailing support also
Enabran Templar Capitalist Pig Join date: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 4,506	01-04-2006 13:35 And so it begins. _____________________ From: Hiro Pendragon Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court. Second Life Forums: Who needs Reason when you can use bold tags?
Ordinal Malaprop really very ordinary Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,607	01-04-2006 13:38 NO!
Cory Edo is on a 7 second delay Join date: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1,851	01-04-2006 13:40 I like parody threads. _____________________ www.electricsheepcompany.com
Margaret Mfume I.C. Join date: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 2,492	01-04-2006 13:41 How many forums did you post this in? I just saw it in Land and Economy. _____________________ hush
Jonquille Noir Lemon Fresh Join date: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 4,025	01-04-2006 13:41 If you just bought it to give people a place to play Tringo, why do you want money back for it? Can people no longer play Tringo there now that it isn't a Hub spot? _____________________ Little Rebel Designs Gallinas
Chris Wilde Custom User Title Join date: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 768	01-04-2006 13:44 From: Bri Koolhaas I bought for one purpose only. TO GIVE TRINGO PLAYERS AN EASILY ACCESSED LAG FREE TRINGO SPOT ! snip Give me my money back for a the product I paid for that no longer exsists Are you saying that with P2P, that your land no longer provides tringo players an easily accessed lag free tringo spot?
Siggy Romulus DILLIGAF Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,711	01-04-2006 13:49 Was about to say that Chris - with P2P it would be very accessable - and with the malls clearing out dare I say less laggy - seems like its now made it the ideal place to have such a thing. _____________________ The Second Life forums are living proof as to why it's illegal for people to have sex with farm animals. From: Jesse Linden I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread
Azrael Baphomet Registered User Join date: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 93	01-04-2006 13:58 If this is trollage, it is poorly thought out trollage, as others have pointed out.
Bri Koolhaas Registered User Join date: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 48	01-04-2006 14:22 From: Jonquille Noir If you just bought it to give people a place to play Tringo, why do you want money back for it? Can people no longer play Tringo there now that it isn't a Hub spot? Because the land has been devalued plain and simple. IF I had known they were going to put P2P in like they did I sure as hell wouldn't have bought it !
Ordinal Malaprop really very ordinary Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,607	01-04-2006 14:24 If I'd known that the dollar would fall so much I'd have kept more money in pounds sterling....
Siggy Romulus DILLIGAF Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 5,711	01-04-2006 14:26 From: someone I bought for one purpose only. TO GIVE TRINGO PLAYERS AN EASILY ACCESSED LAG FREE TRINGO SPOT ! Can you still play tringo there? Is it easily accessed? Did P2P teleporting increase lag? Nuff said. _____________________ The Second Life forums are living proof as to why it's illegal for people to have sex with farm animals. From: Jesse Linden I, for one, am highly un-helped by this thread
Bri Koolhaas Registered User Join date: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 48	01-04-2006 14:28 From: Ordinal Malaprop If I'd known that the dollar would fall so much I'd have kept more money in pounds sterling.... and dollars are devalued by hub lands removal...GD your a fuggin GENIUS !
Ordinal Malaprop really very ordinary Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,607	01-04-2006 14:30 That was an analogy.
Bri Koolhaas Registered User Join date: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 48	01-04-2006 14:31 From: Siggy Romulus Can you still play tringo there? Is it easily accessed? Did P2P teleporting increase lag? Nuff said. I paid premium for location. It had value. No longer has same value. (another genius)
Ordinal Malaprop really very ordinary Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,607	01-04-2006 14:35 Tough cookies.
Chris Wilde Custom User Title Join date: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 768	01-04-2006 14:38 From: Bri Koolhaas I paid premium for location. It had value. No longer has same value. (another genius) If this is all about money and land value then why put things in HUGE letters saying you did it for the tringo people to enjoy? This is about money. Money you spent from your own pocket. Thats important. And there is NO need to paint yourself as a tringo savoir out to fight lag for all. Just state the financial facts and your assumptions and how this has impacted you. The "I did it for the children" attitude you spam in bold letters is uncalled for and hurts your position more than it helps because we know its about money. You arnt presenting your case to mommy and daddy, you are presenting it to LL, a business. They are perfectly fine in speaking in business/financial terms.
MJ Hathor Purple Butterfly Join date: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 901	01-04-2006 14:38 Bri, Consider this a lesson learned. Do not buy land expecting it to have the same value as when you bought it. A number of things can change the value of land in SL. Unfortunately, If you had purchased this land before the Buy Back dates then you'll just have to cut your losses. MJ _____________________
Toy LaFollette I eat paintchips Join date: 11 Feb 2004 Posts: 2,359	01-04-2006 14:40 From: Bri Koolhaas I paid premium for location. It had value. No longer has same value. (another genius) sooo it wasnt about the tringo, was about land speculation? Im getting confused here. _____________________ "So you see, my loyalty lies with Second Life, not with Linden Lab. Where I perceive the actions of Linden Lab to be in conflict with the best interests of Second Life, I side with Second Life."-Jacek
Azrael Baphomet Registered User Join date: 13 Sep 2005 Posts: 93	01-04-2006 14:44 From: Toy LaFollette sooo it wasnt about the tringo, was about land speculation? Im getting confused here. It was apparently about finding a reason to post a complaint.
Ordinal Malaprop really very ordinary Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 4,607	01-04-2006 14:46 Three complaints. Or rather, the same complaint three times.
Jonquille Noir Lemon Fresh Join date: 17 Jan 2004 Posts: 4,025	01-04-2006 14:49 So you lied about only buying it to have a place for others to play Tringo. You bought it because you thought it was valuable and it was an investment. Why didn't you just say that in the first place? _____________________ Little Rebel Designs Gallinas
Toy LaFollette I eat paintchips Join date: 11 Feb 2004 Posts: 2,359	01-04-2006 14:49 Ooo my it boogles the mind We all take losses from time to time. We either accept them and move on or we have a hissy-fit.. Look at it this way, since you do claim taxes on money earned in SL, use it for a write off Assuming you do claim earnings _____________________ "So you see, my loyalty lies with Second Life, not with Linden Lab. Where I perceive the actions of Linden Lab to be in conflict with the best interests of Second Life, I side with Second Life."-Jacek
Bri Koolhaas Registered User Join date: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 48	01-04-2006 15:09 From: MJ Hathor Bri, Consider this a lesson learned. Do not buy land expecting it to have the same value as when you bought it. A number of things can change the value of land in SL. Unfortunately, If you had purchased this land before the Buy Back dates then you'll just have to cut your losses. MJ I bought for location...I paid premium (HUGE) for location because there WERE hubs which drew people there also. LL ripped them out very quickly. I like P2P. LL knew at the time I bought my land that hubs were to be removed. I didn't and yes I did buy in that time frame I use to be able to buy and sell land and actually make a little money to..but that was changed with advanced notice that they were making changes unlike the hub deal. I truely believe there should be an asshole tax on people that post on forums just to be one (not you MJ...and ty for your kind responce)
Bri Koolhaas Registered User Join date: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 48	01-04-2006 15:10 From: Ordinal Malaprop Three complaints. Or rather, the same complaint three times. or purhaps to get PR ? (damn your such a genius!)

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