How to Win Debates & Influence Lindens
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
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12-07-2005 07:05
Here is a political question, albeit a softball  What is the best way to influence the Lindens? We have seen people lobby for a wide range of features and policy changes in SL such as P2P, neg-rates, prim taxes or Fullbright. Some of these issues pass and some are rejected. My question is … What seems to be the most effective way to present your case to the Lindens to bring about change? Love letters or ranting? Lobby groups or one-on-one? Forum Polls or Forum Pie? I know there is a huge potential for some snickering posts in this thread Go on, get it out of your system. But be sure to also include some wisdom from your experience. What have you seen work, and what seems to fall flat. Discuss! |
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Jsecure Hanks
Capitalist
Join date: 9 Dec 2003
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12-07-2005 07:08
I'll capture the Lindens for L$50.
I'll reprogramme them for L$150.
I'll switch 'em for lookalikes to implement your policies, for L$250.
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Logan Bauer
Inept Adept
Join date: 13 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,237
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12-07-2005 07:09
Torches and pitchforks?
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Briana Dawson
Attach to Mouth
Join date: 23 Sep 2003
Posts: 5,855
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12-07-2005 07:10
It seem's that the squeaky wheel gets the oil. So forum posting and polls i think seem to influence LL.
Briana Dawson
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Lordfly Digeridoo
Prim Orchestrator
Join date: 21 Jul 2003
Posts: 3,628
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12-07-2005 07:11
In my urban planning program, my professors always tell us the easiest way to find out who's really making the decisions is to "follow the money".
This isn't to say that the Lindens are greedy people, but they do have a business to run.
Anyone with enough money to toss at them will be heard moreso than someone who's on a basic account (or even a small tier holder).
Just my theory anyway, given recent accusations in the forums.
LF
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Selador Cellardoor
Registered User
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12-07-2005 07:11
snicker
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Actually, I think the whole thing is probably pretty random. It depends on the time of the day, which Linden you are in contact with, and whether you use paragraphs or not.
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Kris Ritter
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Join date: 31 Oct 2003
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12-07-2005 07:12
I am convinced they don't listen to a word we say as a group. They do however pluck random dumb ideas out the air every now and then and implement them badly on a whim.  |
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Eggy Lippmann
Wiktator
Join date: 1 May 2003
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12-07-2005 07:15
The best way to influence the lindens is to create an alt on a different account and pose as a newbie. Those who whine about the FIC would be surprised how many times in SL history LL took drastic steps as a result of newbies whining about this and that. P2P anyone? |
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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12-07-2005 07:16
I am an art lover, and I find that Philip also shares my appreciation.
Specifically, we both seem to share the same affinity for pocket-sized reproductions of Benjamin Franklin portraits. I find that if I send Philip a physical letter that both recommends a new course of action and also includes several of these reproductions -- which we both lovingly term Benjamins -- he is very receptive to implementing my suggestions.
It is my understanding that these portrait reproductions are not impossible for others to get ahold of. You may wish to try the approach I have outlined here.
Best of luck!
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Marilyn Murphy
Obeys Her Toaster
Join date: 23 Jul 2003
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12-07-2005 07:26
i respectfully disagree, bri. surely the lindens don't listen to the very small percentage that read and write the forums. if that were true there would be no club culture any more. i list that as one small example. also, if that were true, the horrendous lag and texturing problems introduced by the lindens lately would be being fixed rather than the lindens preparing us for another newer version of sl.
and lordfly if your take on it were true the coming telehub erasure would not be happening either.
i think that there is no way for us to influence the lindens. the sl thing is being worked on without a lot of consideration for the players.
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Jeffrey Gomez
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12-07-2005 07:29
From: Aimee Weber What is the best way to influence the Lindens? Bribery. Thievery. Giving Ben Pecan Pie.
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Gabe Lippmann
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Getting it out of the way early....
12-07-2005 07:30
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Aimee Weber
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12-07-2005 07:31
LOL!!! Thank you Gabe. I hope your post fills THAT quota so we don't have to deal with it for the rest of the thread |
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Bond Harrington
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12-07-2005 07:37
From what I've heard, the Lindens see what Anshe Chung is doing then rip off her ideas. |
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12-07-2005 07:37
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Travis Lambert
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12-07-2005 07:37
Squeaky wheel for teh win!
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Usagi Musashi
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12-07-2005 07:42
I heard you can................BEEPPPPPPPPPPPP
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MJ Hathor
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12-07-2005 07:45
I'm not entirely convinced that we as a group and/or as in individuals, influence the lindens based solely on our ideas and rants. I think they base their decisions to implement a feature mostly on ability. There are alot of things that are rejected because they are not able to do it. Some recent things that I've seen lately that have had an influence on the lindens by the residents is forum changes and P2P. However, these changes were not new changes. The classified section used to be no reply and SL used to have P2P. The best way to influence a linden is with lots of alcohol and a little less whining.  MJ |
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
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12-07-2005 07:51
AIMEE CLEAN OUT YOUR PM BOX PLS
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Margaret Mfume
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12-07-2005 07:53
From: MJ Hathor The best way to influence a linden is with lots of alcohol and a little less whining. MJ Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker.
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Noel Marlowe
Victim of Occam's Razor
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12-07-2005 07:54
From: Aimee Weber I know there is a huge potential for some snickering posts in this thread Go on, get it out of your system. But be sure to also include some wisdom from your experience. What have you seen work, and what seems to fall flat. Discuss! Alrighty! *doesn't want to imagine what Aimee does to influncence the Linden's* *snicker* *snicker* But seriously, are there any good examples of thing x influenced the Linden's to do thing y? |
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
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12-07-2005 08:03
From: Noel Marlowe Alrighty! *doesn't want to imagine what Aimee does to influncence the Linden's* *snicker* *snicker* LOL. Ok, I walked right into that one. Enabran...my box is clean!(did I just walk into another one?) |
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12-07-2005 08:06
From: Aimee Weber
Enabran...my box is clean!
Hey! That's good to know!
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Katt Kongo
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12-07-2005 08:08
Lindens are people too.
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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12-07-2005 08:09
From: Aimee Weber
my box is clean!
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