LL Selling $L?

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You do realize you've said absolutely nothing, right?

I find it "funny" when people just babble off some stream of conciousness crap and think they're sounding authoritative and profound, especially when they contradict themselves from one sentence to the next.

Form an orderly queue please - last one out, remember to turn the lights out...

I think it's safe to say now that whenever LL promises they'll never do something, such as promising they'd never sell Lindens when they GOM'd GOM, it means they're strongly considering it.

Now wheres the English Version of this lol ... i read it ... and i still cant understand all that ... all the pre-algebia ect in those ..... . Im more confused that ever ... it there a simpler version ... of all this ....

More clueless then ever ...

No, all good communists download pirated copies of Windows XP from websites ending in .ru.



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I see one thing, you seem to see another. I don't think any amount of arguing is going to change that. As for 'belittling,' I will always have little to no respect for those who go off half-cocked without thinking things through. It always puts a smile on my face when I'm watching a Wild Police Videos show and see some moron wrap himself around a tree due to his own stupidity. But that's the kind of person I am. *shrug*



Wow, I'm surprised. I withdraw my statement. Seems Robin doens't sleep.




Those are specifically the Chicken Littles I've been talking about.



Checked my finances, no luck for me.. But I can still Rah-Rah for those that are.

Interesting.

I just wonder how the fundamental market disconnect between lindens in world, and lindens on tge market has been addressed by LL's economist.

Truth be told, I didn't know they *COULDN'T* do this before, so chalk me up to the ""I don't care" column for now.

Since I've seen the demolition of SL predicted at least 6 separate times in fits and starts on the fora since I joined in October, I can't say this little brouhaha (bicker? burble?) seems anymore serious to me than all of the others.

I'm just surprised the Herald hasn't fanned these flames for all their worth yet. It's they're forte, after all.

This will hardly kill SL. It will merely mean the fracturing of the economy into multiple third party token/micropayment systems. Which will definitely suck.

But this, on top of everything else, clearly establishes that Linden Lab is not sufficiently capable or trustworthy to be allowed the opportunity to manage the economy.

I will buy all your $L
$L400/$1 USD

I suppose it's small of me to say I told you so, but, I told you so! Everyone thought I was nuts when I said they'd do this sooner or later.

Perhaps. I'm pretty much in a wait and see mode. If this is simply going to be used as a lever in crisis situations, I'm not upset. If it's used for the many nefarious purposes alleged in the preceding posts, well, that's another matter.

But I'm glad you don't think this will kill SL. I'd hate to see one of my favorite posters join the conspiracists.

oh, and by the way regarding our Pringles conversation of a few weeks ago...I tried the Staxx chip, and I'm afraid I can't agree with you regarding its superiority.

You know, I'd feel a whole lot sorrier for you folks if you had had any empathy for event venues when DI and dwell was taken away. But most of you told us to suck it up and deal.

Personally I'm kind of enjoying watching the price of $L fall. I might buy some more real soon now. Keep on panicing!

Opinion:

Well, you had my empathy. But I know what you mean.

Everybody always telling people to suck it up, or that they look forward to the day when others will suffer - it kind of creates an environment where everybody hopes everybody else will suffer.

CC

Not sure that there is any effective advice beyond "suck it up." Whining doesn't solve the problem. Calling Linden Lab names doesn't solve the problem.

Modifying your business plan and expectations to compensate for unexpected turns of events related to an essential component of the landscape?

Solves the problem.

Developing a system that replaces Linden Lab's inept execution and turns you a profit to boot?

Solves the problem.

By all means, vent and be annoyed. I know the first thing I do when I injure myself is curse dourly. But after that it's time to fix the fucking problem. How?

Suck it up.



Look, SL is too cool and too useful to be killed off by something as mundane as all this. Anyone who is pussy enough to declare their business dead because of an inconvenience related to Linden Lab's inept, bumbling economic approach really needs to get back to stamp collecting anyway.

Roll with the punches. Or die. Those are your choices. Guess which one I'm going to take? The sky isn't falling. The weather is changing. But that's okay. We're headed toward a nasty period of transition that will culminate in the ultimate collapse of the Linden Dollar's value. That's something I'm actually looking forward to seeing. Why? Because there are at least three world currencies that can, with a little work, replace it. And the folks managing those currencies know just a teensy bit more than Philip and his furiously dog-eared highschool economics textbook.

As for Staxx vs. Pringles, which flavor did you sample? The texture only works when it's backed up by a winning flavor and Lay's is still working out a solid slate of those.

If the environment changes, it changes. It's going to change for everyone, not just Enabran, not just Armord or PixelDolls or Luskwood.

So, no, I'm not going to commence whining about it now. Just like I thought going on about event support going away was futile and ultimately misguided in fighting for.

Every time I did make a comment about club stipends, events payments, etc, I did -indeed- know that someday the content creators would get a kick in the junk, too.

We're playing in Linden's playground here. All of us. Their primary goal here is turning a profit, their secondary is creating and maintaining a viable virtual world.

You ride with it as long as you can, until the decisions they make -- you can't adapt to anymore. I'm not sure that this is something that is going to be "unadaptable"; it likely will however divert revenue streams from the residents into Linden Lab. That's business strategy.

If the Linden becomes worthless, there are other options. As long as the stuff you make has value, and people want it, and you stand behind it, there are other options.

The L$ isn't dead yet. But I honestly can say: I don't really know where their head is. Maybe there's a grand plan that will help all of us, that we haven't heard of yet.

I kind of doubt that, though. Note that this may be my cynicism speaking.

That's much the same way I feel about it.

This announcement won't affect the way I do business, or more importantly, the enjoyment I get out of that business and creating things for it. That's the meat of it for me, and until something happens to make it impossible or unenjoyable, I'll keep doing what I do in SL.

I do have to admit it's a bit of a disappointment to see LL go back on yet another promise, even if it is a good business decision. If I wanted to work for someone where the bottom line was more important than every other factor, including ethics, I'd go work for Nike or something. Disappointing, but not terribly surprising.

I'll save my panic and my black veil for the day they decide to abuse the loophole, if they do.

Well said Jon, and may I say DITTO!

Opinion:

That is some gorgeous banner you've got there, Michi!

I figure there are basically three groups in SL: (1) The Lindens, (2) the people who create for pay in U.S. dollars for outside groups, and (3) the people who create for other residents for pay in Lindens, plus those other residents.

This change will help the first group, and won't affect the second. The third group doesn't count anyway.

CC

I agree, as with every decision Linden Lab makes all you can do is adapt your plans to the environment. That said, everyone has a point at which they simply no longer care to adapt. For some it was ratings, for others it will be stipends.

I wonder how many blows to content however SL can absorb.

It really doesn't matter. There's a good chunk of customers here to serve and profit from. Every one of us who quits only leaves that much more opportunity for a more resilient business to find alternative means of profiting from those customers.

It's like China. "Waaah, waah, it's so hard to do business in China! They're such a pain in the ass and you even have to help them abuse human rights!" Yeah, you hear companies cry about it all day long. But they leave money on the table if they don't serve China.

Ain't nobody pulling out of China.

SL isn't nearly as valuable as China, but the same ideas apply. Pain in the ass, yes, but the market isn't exactly shrinking and if you don't make the money there, plenty of other people will, so you may as well have a go of it.

Yeah Coco I know you were very sympathetic. Look I wasn't looking forward to the day when others got theirs. I don't wish anyone to suffer and I really hope businesses don't go out of business because of this. I guess I'm just still smarting from being told to suck it up and deal and all the whining brings it home. On the other hand I guess I did my fair share of whining. So I guess I owe you guys an apology. Sorry folks. -- Vivi

I'm not quitting. I'm as much of a masochist as the next SL resident.

CC