FormerCivilian Linden and his or her romantic partner

Everytime one of my scripts fail to work right I stomp around wirh a dozen or so guns on declaring I'm going Linden hunting and never had a problem so I wouldn't worry - well there was that asteroid that landed on my house crushing it and customers mysteriously being teleported away and my friends accidently showing up on my ban list but really I wouldn't worry

I had this bad thought, too.

I will note that I don't necessarily expect professional behavior on the part of LL. However, human nature being what it is, the relationships will happen, so there is no way to approach this from a prevention angle. How to deal with potential conflict of interest? We should have a detailed tree of all SL relationships and Lindens will have to excuse themselves of any actions within 2 branches of themselves.

Um, seriously, we will have to hope that LL is capable of a sort of detachment and professionalism in their actions. I'm not that confident, but I have no other good solution. That is, other than not allowing any Linden with decision making authority over residents to have contact with them at all inworld. This solution still has issues.

It's none of our fucking business.

qft

So there's a second relationship issue going on. Big dieal. At least #2 is well known and has been for a quite a bit.


- Newfie

Perhaps I can help a bit with our thinking on this sort of matter.

Philosophically we as an organization ask every employee to always act in the best interest of the company. We don't prohibit employees from dating each other, for example, but if a decision needs to be made by an individual that might be biased as a result of the relationship, we ask the individual to recuse themselves from the decision. This policy would hold true for internal Linden Lab decisions and also for issues involving friends in Second Life.

As a practical matter, the community team is not responsible for making decisions about abuse reports.

Guess ya gotta watch the police blotter, eh? Or as Siggy put it.. it really isn't any of our business.

While not publicly acknowledged as in this case, I don't think Lindens are totally devoid of friends in SL. Perhaps not in their current av/name, but each has many friends from when they were typical residents. Part of being a Linden would be the need to listen to problems that might pertain to friends. Can't be helped, such is life. And frankly, I prefer to know that Lindens have friends. How helpful would they be without being friendly? : )

SuezanneC;

I tried to keep my opinion abstract also, but upon reflection I guess I could say my entire statement was also a person opinion. I'm glad however that Robin took the time to address this and I have no further concerns reguarding this issue. It was a good issue to bring up on your part, and I am glad we got to discuss it.

Lindens and regular subscribers have been friends since day one. I cannot question every decision that has been made and that will be made. This is new ground and I'm going to keep an open mind and an eye on this issue.
Mar

Martin, I responded to your post not in disagreement but rather because you understood what I was sayiing and replied in a cordial manner.

Robin, thanks for your response.

I feel very much alone in assuming SCB isn't really discussing the specific situation you reference, but rather an overall discussion of conflict of interest and how it might be handled in a virtual world where regular human behavior is very much in evidence.

Robin's response was helpful, but the discussion was still worthwhile and thanks to all who added their precious and valuable opinion that it was "none of your fucking business".

I also think that Suezanne was only speaking generally, even though it is easy to look to Torley and Jade and think this is about them. If anything, they are simply the catalysts for the discussion. Torley becoming a Linden has raised some interesting situations and questions that have not necessarily existed in the past, and talking about them in a calm manner now while they are not an issue will help in the future, when and if a problem were ever to arise. Those of us who know Torley and Jade know that both are beyond reproach, but as SL continues to grow and other residents become part of the Linden Lab team, it helps to know that some unique situations that could bring about conflict of interest have been considered.

because I know who you're talking about, yes, I think you will get a fair shake. That does not mean I think they will decide in your favor (your being whoever might find themselves in this situation).

(read Robin's post)

Yep, that's exactly what I think that individual would do, even without the companies prompting.

Gabe understands the point of the thread. It should be easy enough to, it is spelled out in clear language, not so well in the first post, but quite clearly in a later post.

I am more concerned from my personal, selfish point of view, with the complaints that might that might be made about biased actions than with the potential biased actions themselves. If there were a hundred Lindens with similarly public identities I think complaints of a tedious "I was framed by that Linden's honey" nature are likely to ensue.

LOL ... exactly!!!!

That was me - and your very welcome - I'm glad to hear your 'precious and valuable opinon' on why it is.

I know several players I 'grew up with' that have become Linden employees, with partners that haven't.. It's nothing new under the sun.. and personally I'd like to think that an employer has interviews to vet those who would be likely to such behavior.

Maybe that's why we haven't seen rampant reports of it so far...

No problem!

OMG, it's such a terrible idea for a Linden's secret identity to be exposed! Especially when the Linden has a civilian partner!!! I mean, Lex Luthor might capture Jade and then say he's gonna kill her if Torley doesn't eat these Kryptonite-chip cookies and then while Torley is all weak from that and talking with a lot of elipses Lex Luthor will take over the entire grid!!!!!

*breathes into a paper bag*

What a waste of electrons. Remember, the energy used typing, encoding, digitizing transmitting decoding and displaying this thread is gone forever and can never be replaced. Think of the starving 133t haxx0rs!!

SuezanneC Baskerville's original comments are AR'able. She's targeted a non-Linden resident with her baseless, mean-spirited charges. These charges are a low-point for these forums.

low point for these forums?

this your 1st time here?

Gus Plisskin
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You are quite mistaken. I made no accusations of any sort about any wrongdoing. I asked a hypothetical question, and asked about people's expectations of fair treatment. The use of the term "FormerCivilian Linden" ought to give a clue - that is a term that would be applicable to any resident publically made into a Linden. The ambiguous pronooun "his or her" - I used that because I was not concerned with a particular person but rather with anyone of either sex who might be occupying the role in the future.
As I previously stated:


My notion that there might be a dramatic increase in the number of llPublicRes2Linden(key OldAvKey) transitions is based in part on Ben Linden's blog statement:

If the user base expands from 100,000 registered to 1,000,000 in a few months, as some Linden staff people expect, what might the numbers be in the next few months after that?
Dramatic increase in user base would probably generate a need for for a great many more Linden staff members in roles that concern dealing with the users. Where can they hire people with a detailed knowledge of Second Life, both technically and socially?
The existing user base is pretty much the only place to find people with first hand knowledge of Second Life history and culture.

Time for work.