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Shields=Griefing? and other combat problems

Rhubardin Fluffball
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03-01-2006 16:31
From: Calix Metropolitan
Isn't that a bit oxymoronic to say? lol


'If you don't agree with me you are a whiner!'...err isn't that how this thread got started in the first place?

Hmm...curiouser and curiouser. ;)



I was going for irony really but I suppose my limted intellect has once again rendered my gesture ineffectual.
Calix Metropolitan
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03-02-2006 09:42
From: Rhubardin Fluffball
I was going for irony really but I suppose my limted intellect has once again rendered my gesture ineffectual.


"Define irony.

Irony. Uh...
Irony.
It's a noun.
It's when something is...ironic. It's, uh...
Well, I can't really define irony...but I know it when I see it!" ~ Reality Bites
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Sion Zaius
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03-05-2006 04:15
From: Calix Metropolitan
"Define irony.



"Die Ironie zieht einen Standpunkt mit scheinbarer Ernsthaftigkeit ins Widersprüchliche" ...
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Jemima Juergens
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03-05-2006 09:46
Before I even used any weapon in SL I contacted LL's and asked them what is acceptable and what is not. The reponse I received is that anything can be used as long as it doesn't cause sims to crash.

So as of now I don't think things are going to change. People are always going to come up with new stronger and better weapons. If this bothers you then do not go to the battle sims.
Rhubardin Fluffball
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03-05-2006 11:21
From: Sion Zaius
"Die Ironie zieht einen Standpunkt mit scheinbarer Ernsthaftigkeit ins Widersprüchliche" ...



Ach! In decadent Americaner for us lazy Texans who nearly flunked their intro to German please. :p


And for Jemima

I know things are unlikely to chang anytime soon unless LL loses something to their shoddy combat rules. Once it becomes a profit loss to them I'm sure they'll step in and 'fix' things.

I do not have problem with new or powerful weapons either. What I do have a problem with is the mindset and usage of certain devices in combat. I doubt multiplayer FPS would have become popular if all of them had a god mode and infinite ammo code built into the online play. yet in SL Shields, Hud based I win buttons, and one hit kill weapons with no limits can, and do make the overall experience less entertaining for a good portion of people. If such toys were used more responsibly it would not be an issue. But owing to the anonymous nature of the internet, and the human factor acts that would not cut it elsewhere are unfortunately common.

Like I keep saying, without some standards combat using the basic SL system is simply not as good as it could be. Even something as simple as safe points to keep spawn campers away would be almost adequate. Until then Sensor based tag style systems may be the best solution.

I've got a few ideas of my own I'm running past people who know me in world right now and if they pan out then we might see more folks engaging in recerational 'gunfights' within the next few months.
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03-05-2006 12:01
From: Rhubardin Fluffball
Ach! In decadent Americaner for us lazy Texans who nearly flunked their intro to German please. :p



Calix might be able to translate that, since he seems to know everything...
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Calix Metropolitan
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03-06-2006 07:26
From: Sion Zaius
Calix might be able to translate that, since he seems to know everything...



I don't know (or understand) the font coming out of your cranium or the German garble. :)

Ergo...guess I don't know everything :)
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Jemima Juergens
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03-06-2006 08:44
From: Rhubardin Fluffball
I do have a question though. If I was to have an open air sex pit on my mature land in full view of everyone else's houses, and made use of it regurlarly would you suggest Everyone else buy bigger walls or quit going to their own plots? After all they don't NEED to go there or even own land so why should I care?



Are you saying that people don't have sex in the open? I beg to differ and it is there land if they want to have sex in out in the open (which happens very often) so be it.

As long as people can create stuff in this game there is always going to be new and stronger weapons. So deal with it.
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03-06-2006 17:15
Why does this thread get to stay in General?
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Rhubardin Fluffball
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03-06-2006 17:15
From: Jemima Juergens
Are you saying that people don't have sex in the open? I beg to differ and it is there land if they want to have sex in out in the open (which happens very often) so be it.

As long as people can create stuff in this game there is always going to be new and stronger weapons. So deal with it.



Perhaps I should have broadended the analogy further. While there are areas where finding couples, and groups, engaged in trysts in areas that are open to anyone they are not without borders, or safeguards usually.

Take Meeting Island for example. Upon zoning in you receive two notecards that clearly state that public nudity will be the least of your worries in the sim. Numerous other love nests exist but all have some way of keeping out or warning others that they are entering into them. These can be as simple as a Adults only warning stretching around the borders such as in Furnation Prime, to skyboxes or actual walls that block the view. I have yet to see something like a big orgy pit, on the ground, in full view of everyone else in that sim whether they care for such things or not without some warning to keep them away.

One look at my profile will pretty much show I do not dissaprove of sex but suddenly stripping naked on your back porch and engaging in a wild romp while your neighbors are having a barbeque just because you can is not something I think I'd do. Not unless I knew they were into that kind of thing anyways. :)

We are a community and we are adults. This means we should be able to police ourselves and act in a conscinetious manner towards others. If not then eventually the freedoms we're currently allowed will be reduced if not taken away altogether.

Perhaps I have digressed away from my intent in this thread, if I had one to begin with beyond simple venting. Yet there have been people sympathetic to my frustrations with most of them being more eloquent than those opposing me. This most likely means my own particular views are not without some merit.

EDIT:and once again I have no problem with new weapons or more unique items. I do have a problem with the mindsets of the individuals who employ extremely powerful and in some cases idiot proof devices as their sole means of achieving victory. Perhaps I simply do not understand why clicking a single button to win is entertaining.

Plus I am dealing with it so to speak. By adressing the problems in the system with the tools provided, seeking alternatives, and trying to not resort to tactics that would deem me hypocritical or insecure in my own beleifs. I fail to see why this makes me the bad guy but righteounsess can be as blinding as ignorance and fear in some cases. Sometimes they're even indistinguishable from one another.
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