Should LL leagally punish grid attacks

Our group has spent a combined total of aroun 1000 hours on our build with the scripting, construction, texturing, etc. We don't plan on selling it and lucked out this time (we think), but I can tell you if we'd lost our build the way some folks have, I'd be in a mood for a lawsuit and a good criminal prosecution, maybe even a good caneing.

You really should have made it where we could see who voted what on this poll.



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this type of attack is already covered under law in the uk and i think in usa, this is regarding the attempt to bring down a electronic company by felonious means and/or trying to bring down a electronic company by DOS and other attacks

so as this service is connected to by thousands of peeps we can all charge the person on denial of service attack (as we use the service and have material in world (covered under tos as inteletical property)(pls excuse spelling im watching he game at the same time))

this is the same as people in an area suing a peep for bringing down telephone services with intent (remember a accident and intent are diffuentual)

haha.. when I'm up at 4am on the forums I"m usually drunk

hmm.. of course I'm usually like that at 10pm too.. so not sure what that means *shrug*

Well everythings being rolled back so builds will come back..

However even if they didn't, they protect themselves in the TOS for being sued for most things.. You'd have a hard time of it having to agree to it when you sign up, and to the new versions when you log in..

I considered it.. But do you think the people who voted "no" would have if it was public? I preffer anon polls for things that matter a lot..

I'd rather get a true number of votes, I think

To hell with the lawsuits and criminal charges. Let's just stake them all out on fire ant beds for GP if not for ruining things for everyone else.

Lol Pen, as long as ur not usually drunk at 10AM I think you're ok..

Looked ok. i went into the art gallery and sat down till i got logged off. A Blue window poped up telling me to log into the preview grid cuz main was going down. but when i treid to login to it, it just stuck at the login screen infinaty. Im just glad the forums arent down.

Whew! That's good to hear.... i hope Club Essence and the Nirvana Islands survived. Otherwise Miles is gonna be in tears. I hope i don't get a call from Solomon about the treehouse i built him last week.... fortunately i wrote down the co-ordiantes of every section so it shouldn't take too long to repair.

Its all being rolled back so missing buildings will be back with any luck..

Preview log in has been switched off due to heavy load, so it doesn't crash too

Just so you know, that $20,000 figure is not something I picked out of thin air. Startup costs on something like this are significant. On the other hand, for a criminal prosecution, the government pays for it.

How would preventing new people from playing the game stop the griefers? First, you would be punishing people who had nothing to do with it. Secondly, the best way to kill off a society is to halt population growth.

I believe "newbie" accounts reffer to free accounts..

If people can get accounts for no charge, they're more likely to throw them away by getting banend for something..

Its more likey that they can throwout the avie after they attack the grid with no loss to them and their own main avie. This was a no brainer and you still asked why so?

I'm about to die due to seizures form lack of access, I think the child who did this should too...lmao. Seriously though, it should be reported and then let the FBI so what they will (which is prolly nuffin) but it should still be reported and pursued. If not, why would someone stop doing it?

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They should secure their product so their customer base can log on 24/7. Without fear of global attacks happening on a weekly basis. Most online games don't sit around hoping not to get attacked. Defense not offence.

Perhaps its time for a backup world? Perhaps expand the preview grid?

Well there is something positive however. At least now the website doesn't crash too

The 2 grid attacks i've witnessed happened recently. AFTER the free accounts became available. Nice gesture but there are some types of people we dont want here. people that only come here to cause trouble and hurt others. That group shall remain nameless to avoid having this topic closed. We all know what im talking about. But please avoid pointing them out.

Actually I think after the establishment of the "Patriot Act" (please correct me if I'm wrong its been a while since I heard anything about it), any hacking attempt of that magnitute can be considered a terrioristic act (wich can automaticly be considered a terriorist attack if the attack was from another country) wich means anyone cought can be tried & treated as a terriorist. This means LIFE in a federal prison WITHOUT the possiblity of parole and in some cases without trial.

Like I said please correct me if I'm wrong, last I heard about the patriot act Bush was trying to get it renewed.

Do you really think that somebody who wants to bring the grid down will be stopped by one month's subscription fee?

I doubt it very much.

Yes! My meaning exactly!

and no comment on the 10am drunk thingy.. haha pfft!

Grid attacks are sad that cause harm and sadness.

I voted yes, but I could see why a small percentage would vote no. I almost voted no, because I have, completely by accident, crashed sims before. The worst was in 1.6, at sandbox newcomb. I created a large number of prims, purely out of whimsy, and when I tried to delete them the sever crashed. I reloged, tried again, and it happened again. It turned out deleting about 2000 prims at once constipates a sim.. after that I deleted them in small batches until they were gone, but even deleting say 20 at once was causing severe FPS hits..

I am not saying the lindens would take legal action for something like that, especially if they knew it was a random work of a bored builder, but it does come down to perception and drawing the line.. if they sue over someone who crashes the grid, would they be able to sue over specific sim attacks? What about honest mistakes?

Anyway, just my two bits on the subject, and in this particular instance I think the bastard should fry, especially since there is an obvious pattern of SL being attacked right before an update, which means there is a decent chance the person who did this is either an alt, or at least related to, a certain someone who crashed the sim before 1.7..

Anyway, peace out guys.

yes. it seem you have not been here that long to know this.....