I have been surveying the grid for several hours now, and have found numerous land scanners place at 600 meters above land not owned by the object owner.
Some of the sims are Mi 133,27,600 ... Acontia 163,232,600... Deltote 124,161,600
and there is much, much more.
These are the same scanners used on 16m plots on the grid, by a well known land scanner/baron.
The TOS forbids me to post the name of the avatars involved.
I have filed abuse reports, but I encourage everyone on the grid to check for objects on your land and set auto-return.
If you have an object you find suspicous, IM me and I will help you track it down and provide you with an accurate report so you may AR this person.
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
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12-15-2005 04:53
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Hank Ramos
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12-15-2005 05:03
/me is jumpy like a grasshopper. Can a grasshopper play leapfrog?
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Eggy Lippmann
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12-15-2005 05:04
Would you say there is a small chance that it's the same set of scanners that we whined about last year?
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Hank Ramos
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12-15-2005 05:05
Would you say there is a small chance that it's the same set of scanners that we whined about last year? Different set. Dang, I'm still jumpy like a grasshopper. |
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
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12-15-2005 05:05
Would you say there is a small chance that it's the same set of scanners that we whined about last year? No, its about making millions, Calvin. _____________________
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Hank Ramos
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12-15-2005 05:06
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Moonshine Herbst
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Join date: 19 Jun 2004
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12-15-2005 05:11
Illegal land scanners?
I had the impression that LL were perfectly fine with it. They even removed public land listings from their website, giving land barons a need for land scanners to be competitive on the market. Please correct me if I'm wrong. _____________________
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
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12-15-2005 05:16
Illegal land scanners? I had the impression that LL were perfectly fine with it. They even removed public land listings from their website, giving land barons a need for land scanners to be competitive on the market. Please correct me if I'm wrong. These are placed over land which is not owned by the object owner and the data is IM'd to another av. _____________________
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Zapoteth Zaius
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12-15-2005 05:32
These are placed over land which is not owned by the object owner and the data is IM'd to another av. Could you tell us what the owners name ryhmes with? _____________________
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Hank Ramos
Lifetime Scripter
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12-15-2005 05:36
Could you tell us what the owners name ryhmes with? /me gets all jumpy like a grasshopper again. Dang, too much caffeine! |
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Bounder Jimenez
programmer/designer
Join date: 12 Oct 2005
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12-15-2005 05:38
hmmm..... there are also some objects from the original poster of this thread that are scattered around...... like at Mi 167,98,97
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Margaret Mfume
I.C.
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
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12-15-2005 05:40
Autoreturn is an all or nothing option which does not allow things belonging to other people which you want to have on your land to be maintained. Having people join your land group and have access to your holdings in order to leave a few items there is not the answer. The addition of land control tools which allow one to selectively eliminate objects from your land is an improvement but not automatic. Being able to ban the objects belonging to as well as an avatar is one option. A better soulution might be the ability to give permission to specific people in conjuction with autoreturn which would allow that function to be better utilized. This would require people to seek permission to place devices and allow for better transparency on this issue.
This issue is old. The current method of abuse reporting is time intensive on LL's part and apparently ineffective. _____________________
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
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12-15-2005 05:45
hmmm..... there are also some objects from the original poster of this thread that are scattered around...... like at Mi 167,98,97 I own the land there. _____________________
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Pham Neutra
Registered User
Join date: 25 Jan 2005
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12-15-2005 06:17
I have been surveying the grid for several hours now, and have found numerous land scanners place at 600 meters above land not owned by the object owner. |
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Burke Prefect
Cafe Owner, Superhero
Join date: 29 Oct 2004
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12-15-2005 06:21
Are we refferring to a certain... ahem.... fat baron, or a type or garden bedding, or a person of dual-ethnicity?
*sigh* More scanner nonsense. Time for a toner war. |
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
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12-15-2005 06:25
Maybe a totally naive question, but ... what can a land scanner scan for in the current market where there is no public land anymore? It can only detect ownership or changes of ownership, or am I getting something wrong? Scanners use NULL_KEY for llGetLandOwnerAt(), which is basically using a wild card when no land owner is detected at a particular spot. Land is sometimes abandoned when the previous owner quits, downgrades tier or someone buys land which is "pending" a tier upgrade and the purchase renegs. Since the LindeX came online, people are less inclined to abandon land, because the resale of the land can be applied against tier, without using a third party money trader. _____________________
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Zapoteth Zaius
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12-15-2005 06:27
But, when land is released doesn't it go straight to Gov. Linden for auction? No ability to purchase before then?
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Margaret Mfume
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12-15-2005 06:27
Maybe a totally naive question, but ... what can a land scanner scan for in the current market where there is no public land anymore? It can only detect ownership or changes of ownership, or am I getting something wrong? I think there's a bit more to it than that: ...Cheap land gets picked up within 60 minutes. There are probably about 30 people who ping the land for sale list every hour.... How is this done? Isn't it with land scanners? _____________________
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
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12-15-2005 06:28
Are we refferring to a certain... ahem.... fat baron, or a type or garden bedding, or a person of dual-ethnicity? *sigh* More scanner nonsense. Time for a toner war. If I catch your drift correctly, the answer is no. _____________________
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Weedy Herbst
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12-15-2005 06:30
But, when land is released doesn't it go straight to Gov. Linden for auction? No ability to purchase before then? Alot does, usually because LL will resell the land at auction to recover tier and account fees. Physically abandoned and land pending past the 24 hour period are released to the public. _____________________
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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
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12-15-2005 06:31
I think there's a bit more to it than that: How is this done? Isn't it with land scanners? Some land barons click the search button in "Find/Land Sales at regular intervals. _____________________
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Malachi Petunia
Gentle Miscreant
Join date: 21 Sep 2003
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12-15-2005 06:38
Oh good, another thing for LL to disclaim responsibility for. As they have said that security scripts that blast an avatar so hard that they crash the client are against the ToS but don't enforce it and that self-replicating scanners that suffuse the grid are okay, I think it is time to code up my Grid Spanning Avatar Bouncing Satellites that allow no player to stay in one place for more than three seconds.
Maybe Hamlet Linden will write a story about my free expression and I'll be famous. Grey Life® gets better by the day! _____________________
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Margaret Mfume
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12-15-2005 06:43
Some land barons click the search button in "Find/Land Sales at regular intervals. Thank you. The post I quoted threw out the number 30 land watchers which is not surprising given the increased size of sl. Have you seen an increase in the number of land scanners as well and are they of the type which were suggested to be a detractor to sim performance when this issue was previously presented? _____________________
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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12-15-2005 06:45
What is the exact part of the TOS or CS that is being violated by placing a scripted object at that altitude?
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Aliasi Stonebender
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12-15-2005 06:45
Some land barons click the search button in "Find/Land Sales at regular intervals. Hell, when I'm looking for land I do it. Scanners bother me, especially on someone else's land; furious clicking we can all do.  _____________________
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