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Joannah Cramer
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Join date: 12 Apr 2006
Posts: 1,539
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08-24-2006 13:45
From: Jessica Elytis What is stopping that is my suggestion (see above) that only ONE (big bold letters for you) pending sale at a time can go through the system. The seller would have to cancle that one and then another potential buyer can try. And yes, a landswooper can sit and click over and over, and can also be Ejected/TP-Home by the seller. I don't see how this is stopping anything. If am a land swooper, i land on the parcel next to yours and hit buy. You hit cancel. i hit buy again. you hit cancel again. i hit buy again. you hit cancel. And so on and so on and so on. Until you hit OK or the cows come home, whichever happens first. And if only one pending sale can go through system at time? Then my continual attempts to buy the parcel also block your intended friend from getting *their* attempts to buy it through. Unless they get lucky. And you don't cancel their attempt too out of habit by then. And no, ejecting/tp isn't going to work because the swooper doesn't have to sit on your land. Heck, with the new camera and edit range they don't even have to sit in the same sim. Am sorry, it simply isn't good solution in my eyes. Delaying the update in search on the other hand which was also suggested sounds pretty good. It doesn't affect normal land sale functionality, and prevents this "swooper on the spot in under 10 seconds" thing. |
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Wildefire Walcott
Heartbreaking
Join date: 8 Nov 2005
Posts: 2,156
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08-24-2006 14:04
Seriously, I think LL could solve a lot of problems by making the force-selected-buyer option come up at $1L as well as $0L. Everyone I read about getting swooped had land set at $1L which is obviously a token amount because they don't understand that you can "sell" land for $0L- of course by doing this they're bypassing the select-a-buyer prompt. There's already a safety net there for $0L transfers. Cover $1L as well, and these forums would be a fair amount quieter.
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Lillani Lowell
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Join date: 5 Apr 2006
Posts: 171
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08-24-2006 15:02
You cannot be "swooped" out of your land in the middle of a transfer. You cannot be "swooped" out of your land by subdividing or rejoining land. These issues were solved.
The only issue which remains is seller inadequacy.
ALL sales are final, all responsibility of action rests with the seller. If they make a mistake, they live with it. All the necessary information was provided to them and it was their failure to follow "clear and concise" instructions which led to the sale of their land.
And while I supported the return of land under the old UI system (I've returned a few myself when I was buying and selling land)..... I no longer do so. If I decide to get back into land, which is looking more attractive because of the new UI, I would not return land based on seller inadequacy.
Sorry, but UI psychology doesn't wash, and if that's the reason you're protecting someone's seller inadequacy then you should personally go to their house and turn off their computer because there's no stopping them anyway.
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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08-24-2006 15:13
From: DoteDote Edison I understand the problem with residents not reading, not paying attention, not knowing what they're doing when selling land, despite Code Red, level 3 warnings.
However, it's been proven over time that most people aren't going to learn before making a mistake. People aren't going to magically understand that a stove is HOT without touching it and being burned first. Telling your kid, "I told you so!" after they burn their fingers on a hot stove... doesn't stop the kid from screaming and yelling at the pain. In that scanario, stove designers created a cold-touch stove that doesn't burn the fingers of children. And finally, LL has acknowledged that it's really a problem, because they've attempted to correct it.
My dissappointment is that LL announces that they've solved a problem, saved the world from swoopers, when in fact, LL has changed nothing. They have NOT solved the problem at all. This new feature is merely a different arrangement of the old feature. It's like... if the sign-up page didn't have an input box for date of birth.... and everyone gripes about it. So, LL adds a date of birth input box on the sign-up page and announces they've solved the problem.... but in fact, LL has failed to solve a problem which they set out to solve. Linden labs can't fix the problem they set out to solve. As Ron White says.. You can't fix stupid.
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Seraph Nephilim
and the angels will weep
Join date: 28 Jan 2006
Posts: 255
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08-24-2006 16:06
From: Wildefire Walcott Seriously, I think LL could solve a lot of problems by making the force-selected-buyer option come up at $1L as well as $0L. Everyone I read about getting swooped had land set at $1L which is obviously a token amount because they don't understand that you can "sell" land for $0L- of course by doing this they're bypassing the select-a-buyer prompt. There's already a safety net there for $0L transfers. Cover $1L as well, and these forums would be a fair amount quieter. Unfortunately, I don't think this will help. I suspect the inability to sell to "anyone" for L$0 was created for a similar reason. It would just move the problem up to L$2. Yes, it might reduce the number of people encountering a problem, but not by many I suspect. I have to go with the delay the land listing for several minutes, as I mentioned earlier in this thread. (Hmmm...thought -- this probably wasn't an issue back before peer-to-peer teleporting!) |
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Snowflake Fairymeadow
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Join date: 21 May 2006
Posts: 704
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08-24-2006 16:08
From: DoteDote Edison Why is there no "transfer to friend" option for land? Why can't we click a <TRANSFER> button which would allow ownership of the land to be transferred to a certain individual... in addition to the regular <sell> button. The difference would be, <sell> lists the land and it is automatically available to anyone. <Transfer> would be very similar except a "transfer to" name MUST be chosen, and the system doesn't need to list the land on the market. I think that would be a REAL solution to the problem. There IS a "transfer to friend" option. It's where you choose to sell to a specific person instead of "sell to anyone". And when the land is set to a specific person, it doesn't show up on the market, unless that person is looking at the land list. It only shows up in the land list for that specific person. |