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Why do we have to buy something to get a credit account verified?

Lina Pussycat
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Join date: 19 Jun 2005
Posts: 731
07-02-2006 08:26
People remember that they did the hardware profile reports. They did this so its feesible if the need arises that they can ban that machine profile only way of really fixing it is to completely reformat lol. So they can essentially perma ban someone now based on hardware profiles and can keep track of greifers in this sense :)
Rael Riel
Registered User
Join date: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 31
07-02-2006 09:36
From: Cocoanut Cookie
But then they'd charge a fee to do that, and it would probably be more than what you would have spent buying a few Lindens.

Did you know that you get charged a $10 fee to downgrade to basic? I didn't, until tonight.

coco


I just saw that and that is pathetic. Anyone can create a million alts for free, but if you want to change to a basic account, they hit you yet one more time. Explain the logic in this.
Wrom Morrison
Validated User
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 462
07-02-2006 09:46
From: Rael Riel
I just saw that and that is pathetic. Anyone can create a million alts for free, but if you want to change to a basic account, they hit you yet one more time. Explain the logic in this.


Stops scammers from making cash-out accounts. I think that's the logic here.
Infiniview Merit
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Join date: 27 Apr 2006
Posts: 845
07-02-2006 15:40
From: Ricky Shaftoe
I do see some difference between submitting a card and charging it. If a kid steals dad's credit card and uses it to sign up, but doesn't charge anything, he might get away with it. If he charges something, though, dad's gonna see "Linden Labs" on his credit card statement, and may well investigate. I would.

I agree that it's an imperfect system, but it's a heck of a lot better than nothing. I like the earlier poster's idea of a database of driver's licenses or passports or whatnot, but of course that raises all sorts of issues. I doubt LL will pioneer the way on that, but someone else might. There has been talk of a national ID card for years, and some interest in Congress in moving forward on it.



Yes this is a precise reason for the "info payment used"
tag.
Yet another degree of likelyhood that the person is of legal
age.
On the topic of descrimination, this does not make LL like
a facist state in any way. We are judged constantly in RL
by our financial and credit status.
The word credit being short for credibility.

Nolan, although there always seems to be methods of bypassing operational systems, does not the "info on file" or
"payment info used" tags make that AV less likely to grief?

I personally am more comfortable being around a person
that at least has the "info on file" tag.

While we do enjoy a reasonable level of anonymity in the form
of our avatars, the "no info on file" tag seems to be the equivolent of meeting a stranger in RL with a mask on.
Thus it seems to me that the best advice we can give a new
person who wants to be recognized as more than a trial user
is to "get verified".
Cocoanut Cookie
Registered User
Join date: 26 Jan 2006
Posts: 1,741
07-02-2006 17:27
Well, I don't mind LL knowing whether I have paid them anything, or have a credit card registered with them.

I do mind everybody else knowing it.

And . . . the whole thing is kinda summarized by that signature you have there. It is just so sort of tolitarian looking, Big Brother is watching, and all that.

coco
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Kyrah Abattoir
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07-02-2006 18:00
just give me one reason you would want to hide this?

one good reason not just "i dun want"
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Smith Peel
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Join date: 10 Jan 2005
Posts: 1,597
07-02-2006 18:08
STEP ONE. Get one of those prepaid debit cards that you can order online or sometimes find at the gas station and add a few dollars or whatever is the minimum. Or get Paypal and their debit card (this takes longer is more complicated).

STEP TWO. Create a new hotmail address with fake details from a public terminal such as your local library.

STEP THREE. Create a new SL account with the same fake details from the same public terminal.

STEP FOUR. Buy $1 USD worth of Lindens on Lindex.

TADA! You are now a socially acceptable griefer :D

Thank you, thank you very much.

Now vote me into the Whitehouse. Thanks.
http://secondlife.com/vote/index.php?get_id=1589
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Rotary Fan
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07-02-2006 18:14
From: Smith Peel
S Buy $1 USD worth of Lindens on Lindex.


Can you buy that small an amount?
Smith Peel
Smif v2.0
Join date: 10 Jan 2005
Posts: 1,597
07-02-2006 18:15
From: Rotary Fan
Can you buy that small an amount?


I just tried to buy 1 Linden, and it said I had to buy $1.00 US worth.
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Seraph Nephilim
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Join date: 28 Jan 2006
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07-02-2006 18:24
From: Cocoanut Cookie
But then they'd charge a fee to do that, and it would probably be more than what you would have spent buying a few Lindens.

Did you know that you get charged a $10 fee to downgrade to basic? I didn't, until tonight.
Were you actually charged this fee? The wording on the membership page reads:

* Downgrading from Premium Trial to Basic or reactivation of a closed account will incur a one-time $9.95 fee

I would think that a "Premium Trial" account would mean a Premium account during the first seven days. I'm asking for a clarification in Second Life Answers here.
Missy Malaprop
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Join date: 28 Oct 2005
Posts: 544
07-03-2006 09:23
the only problem i have with this is... i pay $85 a month between my account and the land i own. My roomate started playing a few months back and signed up via Phone, so it has her as no payment info. She helps me take care of my place and its basically hers to, and shes been paying me half of the $75 teir fee each month. She also has credit problems and currently has no credit cards. The only easy way for me to help her not be banned everywhere is for me to use my card and have her AV just as my alt i guess... but im figuring after allt he money i spend I'll still have to pay $10 one time fee more for that. The only question i have is if i use my card to do that... is there any limitation if mine and her account is on the same card for logging in? meaning can she still log in at the same time as me?
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