Abuse Report and Police Blotter Awareness Week
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Seronis Zagato
Verified Resident
Join date: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 454
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06-28-2006 20:28
OK by now we ALL know that PVP abuse system has been given the axe. To help raise awareness of how punishments are being handled i want to point out a tiny fact. Prior to this there were thousands of abuse report incidents filed every day. To give the benifit of the doubt will say half of those were false reports. Round down and we'll say 1000 reports a day were legitimate. In these issues we will assume there is a high volume of reports involving the same incident but were filed by each person effected. So assuming at least 4 people file per incident (very generous) we will say 250 singular issues of punishable abuse occur each day. Screw that. We all know its 3x that value or higher. But for the sake of this thread we will assume its 250. Let me now point you to the Second Life Police Blotter. This is a very special web page located here: http://secondlife.com/community/blotter.phpAs the top of the page states for the police blotter: From: Police Blotter The Second Life Police Blotter displays the 25 most recent disciplinary actions taken by the Second Life Abuse Team. The date shown reflects when the incident occurred. Now that means we should at any point see a span of incidents covering about 2 hrs of time. BUT WAIT !!!! The 25 recent incidents actually span across occasionally 2 weeks.. An average of 2 punishments given out perday... Didnt we already figure out there were 250 punishments needed? (ignoring its really 3x higher). Residents complain that 'nothing was preivously being done' about incidents of greifing. The lindens response was "you're not filing abuse reports". Now they remove the feature because "you're filing too many abuse reports". What will this do? Because people can no longer see WHO ABUSES THEM it is impossible for us to ban the greifers. There is no accountability. For christs sake even when there WAS SOME ACCOUNTABILITY there wasnt any punishments being given out. My purpose of this thread is this: In honor of our ability to find out who is causing us greif being removed, I want EVERYONE that files an abuse report to come here. Post what happened. DONT post any names. Just say where the incident occured, what happened, how many people were effected or witness. And for EVERY report you file come back and post here again. Do this as much as you are willing for the next week or two. And i will continuously come back to this thread and update this first post to contain how many incidents have been handled as far as the police blotter is concerned. PLEASE POST YOUR ABUSE INCIDENTS. We need your information and participation in this so that we can make the system and the community aware just how bad everything is. ------ Below this point reserved for police blotter updates -------- Date: Thursday, June 29, 2006 Description: Calling another Resident a "moron". Action taken: Warning issued. This is the ONLY action taken today. A simple warning. What was reported? - 3 instances of herassment. deserves warnings or more, nothing given - 1 instance of orbiting - 4 instances of fire bombing - 1 instance of general intolerance - 1 MAJOR instance of racial intolerance - 1 major instance of IM verbal assault - 1 instance of Mature attachments in PG area - 1 instance of beastiality in PG Welcome area each deserves suspensions, nothing given 1 instance of teen being racist (double violation for mere presence) deserves banning, nothing given
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Seronis Zagato
Verified Resident
Join date: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 454
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06-28-2006 20:28
Reported instance of a person spamming over a hundred residents with teleport requests.
Kuula sim.
-EDIT-
In order to encourage people to take the time to post here so that we get as accurate of a sample as possible i will pay 25$L to everyone to takes the time to give their details here on reports of VIOLENCE. Nudity or rude behaviour doesnt count. Weapons USE, orbiting, racial incidents do. I still give my thanks in all regards.
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From: Johnny Mann Just cause SL redefines what a videogame can be doesnt mean it isnt a game. From: Ash Venkman I beat SL. (The end guy is really hard.)
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nimrod Yaffle
Cavemen are people too...
Join date: 15 Nov 2004
Posts: 3,146
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06-28-2006 21:31
Hmm, ok....
Reported 2 people for harassment in Waterhead.... XXX Linden came and TPed them away. I have a feeling one was punished, one wasn't.
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Equino Faulkland
SLI + SL = Orgy in my eye
Join date: 27 Oct 2005
Posts: 100
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06-28-2006 21:32
BRING BACK THE PVP!!! if your swamped with reports, then eliminate the report features, those of us on PRIVATE SIMS who payGOOD MONEY to have our sims to govern, now are practically blind as to what happens by who. greifers have increased 10 fold in the past 7 hours since SL has been Up since the new update that we have had ALL WEEK. the PVP needs to be brought back so we can see who is shooting who and who we need to ban, and not pester the lindens over greifers.
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Brucas Bardeen
Registered User
Join date: 21 Jun 2006
Posts: 20
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06-28-2006 22:16
PvP thing as in where you go on to land and theres a heart and a bar next to you or am I missing something?
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Tsukasa Karuna
Master of all things desu
Join date: 30 Jun 2004
Posts: 370
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06-28-2006 22:27
Wisteria Sim Looking through a mall, someome teleports in on top of me, orbits me, vanishes. AR sent, but what good did it do? -- In answer to a question above, PvP was the old window that used to come up occasionally saying "xxx bounced you with a scripted object" or some such nonsense, usually causing false reports to be filed.
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Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
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06-28-2006 22:28
have a laugh and read and lost in this thread............... /108/90/116701/1.html"Originally Posted by Torley Linden 1) Too many *false* reports from those who aren't sure how to use the system, increasing support load. For example, the classic example of running into an avatar and bumping them accidentally, or the number of times Ben and Nigel Linden have been reported for abuse because of their trolleys and trains. 2) A much better system to detect (ameliorated abuse-reporting tools, overall) is in the works." Torley Linden seems to believe that the sl world is so clean and pure without a problem in the world  Somone shake him and wake him up! Don`t forget "Sox" over at le stats once protected you butt from a griefter and shot him out of the sim and be got banned for you. But you forgot about that one didnt you" Strange how we look at things diff once we are in the world of power a? "2) A much better system to detect (ameliorated abuse-reporting tools, overall) is in the works." Are you sure thisis real? I see it and then believe it!
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Torley Linden
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Join date: 15 Sep 2004
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06-28-2006 22:43
No, Usagi, that's demonstratively false. That's certainly not what I believe--as with all matters like this, I appreciate being asked personally. I've been griefed many times inworld, and I'm also realistic about problems, as my blog will often attest to re: shortcomings. I'm aware of the extent of the damage today, and indeed, in another recent forum post, I wholly agree it's important to SHOW and KNOW who is attacking you. Internal discussions amongst Lindens on this are ongoing, and you can surely bet I'm advocating for PvP Abuse names to at least be *displayed*, even if the "Report Abuse" button is missing.
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Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
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06-28-2006 22:46
From: Torley Linden No, Usagi, that's demonstratively false. That's certainly not what I believe--as with all matters like this, I appreciate being asked personally. I've been griefed many times inworld, and I'm also realistic about problems, as my blog will often attest to re: shortcomings. I'm aware of the extent of the damage today, and indeed, in another recent forum post, I wholly agree it's important to SHOW and KNOW who is attacking you. Internal discussions amongst Lindens on this are ongoing, and you can surely bet I'm advocating for PvP Abuse names to at least be *displayed*, even if the "Report Abuse" button is missing. oh it is Torley? Not for what I recall of that happning. Why would i say it if I did not see it happen.........Anyways forget i its a old Torley everyone has forgotten about anyways...... Update its seems he taken this too person and posted a abuse on me. what the hech? trolling? well all i said is what i saw and thats all........... This goes to show you how really messedup this forum is........and the abuse report system..........How can anyone take any meaning to a system when law themselves take things personal themselves and post abuse reports on people they "ASSUME" is doing wrong..........I am taking a few weeks off this stupid game to deal with my rl. Maybe some others so do the same. Instead of taking it out of others.
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Seronis Zagato
Verified Resident
Join date: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 454
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06-28-2006 22:59
From: Usagi Musashi ... (insert anything ever said) ... Usagi. Read the first post. State the generalized information if any abuse report you file with location time and detail (without names). I will around lunchtime each day go through and make a summary of what was posted for quick referral. And then mark what punishments were actually given out. The thread is not just about "reducing falce reports". Its about the fact that the reports we DO send in dont get acted upon. Im not saying the lindens doing the punishments have A CHOICE in who they are allowed to punish. I doubt they get much decision making power at all. I also dont give a DAMN about if its someones 1st or 2nd offense. If you PUNISH THEM their first offense those 2nd and 3rd offenses are less likely to happen If you PUNISH THEM on EVERY offense people will start to realize THEY GET PUNISHED FOR DOING BAD THINGS and those 1st offenses are less likely to happen. Torley: I apologize for Usagi's behaviour and her misquoting you. I think anyone who reads all of your writing had a very good understanding of your position on any issue. We know you have obligations to expalin LLs motives even though they are not your own. Intelligent readers will understand you are QUITE CLEAR in differentiating the two. For the record she is not welcome in any facet of SL that i participate in especially here due to her HISTORY of actions and i wish the situation hadnt come up at all. My apologies to you again. (just another reason why the person who starts a thread should have ResMod privledges over it to remove such 'people' and their rantings). To everyone else: Please ignore Usagi and dont follow in her example. This thread has a purpose and id like it to stick to that purpose in identifying whether its really worth it to file those abuse reports. Yes i realize that "if you dont file nothing will h appen" but there is a PROVEN HISTORY that when hundreds of abuses happen no one gets punished anyways. And it pains me dearly that they've removed the last effective tool in figureing out who to ban since the ONLY punishments given out in SL are via land owners by restricting access.
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From: Johnny Mann Just cause SL redefines what a videogame can be doesnt mean it isnt a game. From: Ash Venkman I beat SL. (The end guy is really hard.)
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Neural Blankes
Empty Thoughts
Join date: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 79
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06-29-2006 00:22
Filed an AR for the firebomb griefing incident this evening at NCI Plaza in Kuuli
And Seronis, I hope you recognize that the other comment I made on the situation was not directed at you.
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Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
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06-29-2006 01:33
I love this! he takes this as a person offence when all i said was a what saw in person over 1 .5 years ago......... some system we have here..........
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Luciftias Neurocam
Ecosystem Design
Join date: 13 Oct 2005
Posts: 742
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06-29-2006 05:18
From: Usagi Musashi
Update its seems he taken this too person and posted a abuse on me. what the hech? trolling? well all i said is what i saw and thats all...........
You deserve anything you get. But at least you posted an incidence of abuse: that which you consistently deliver.
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Tengu Yamabushi
Registered User
Join date: 25 Sep 2005
Posts: 191
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06-29-2006 06:10
I _have_ started keeping logs (since the Lindens asked us to at the SL birthday protest)... here's one from yesterday:
28 June, 6:45am SL, Lusk platform, Lusk: Foul language/intolerance in a PG sim. 28 June, 6:49am SL, Lusk platform, Lusk: Admitted 13-year-old on grid.
Both ARs were against the same individual. I cut/pasted the relevant pieces of the chatlog into the AR(s).
I also note that 24 hours later, his account is still active.
(edit: just had a conversation with a Linden, name of individual provided)
(Followup: 48 hours after initial report, the account no longer exists)
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Travis Lambert
White dog, red collar
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,819
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06-29-2006 06:33
During our game show last night between 6pm-7pm:
Wingo Sim:
-Reported (and ejected) an individual for disrupting the game with intolerant & abusive chat
-Reported (and ejected) Two individuals working as a team to firebomb our trivia event (Two reports filed)
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Cindy Claveau
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Join date: 16 May 2005
Posts: 2,008
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06-29-2006 07:04
I'm liable to be a frequent poster to this thread if I have the time.
Last night (Wed) two individuals entered Archan armed with weapons in a clearly marked "no weapons" area. Both were asked to remove their weapons and did so. One, however, made some remark about incest. He was then told that such remarks were also not welcome, at which time he became belligerent and abusive in open chat. He was ejected and banned, then proceeded to continue his diatribe with me in IM (personal insults) while he hovered just outside the parcel boundary with his big peni... er, gun. At that point, an AR was filed which included his IM abuse. The individual in question had a 6/21/06 rez day and was unverified.
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Warda Kawabata
Amityville Horror
Join date: 4 Nov 2005
Posts: 1,300
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06-29-2006 07:46
(name) had an animation showing him having sex with a buffalo in the Ahern welcome area.
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Seronis Zagato
Verified Resident
Join date: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 454
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06-29-2006 11:41
From: Usagi Musashi Update its seems he taken this too person and posted a abuse on me. what the hech? trolling? For the record Torley did no such thing. *I* posted that report via the nice little icon we have to do such things. Same as I have done with many of your posts which repeatedly attack and belittle others. I think it was listed as 'flaming, trolling, rude, aggressive, slandering and libel". Sorry but Torley is a very well spoken and respected admin. I do not want him taking any slack for something *I* did.
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From: Johnny Mann Just cause SL redefines what a videogame can be doesnt mean it isnt a game. From: Ash Venkman I beat SL. (The end guy is really hard.)
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Nyx Divine
never say never!
Join date: 11 Dec 2004
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06-29-2006 11:50
From: Usagi Musashi
Update its seems he taken this too person and posted a abuse on me. what the hech? trolling? well all i said is what i saw and thats all........... This goes to show you how really messedup this forum is........and the abuse report system..........How can anyone take any meaning to a system when law themselves take things personal themselves and post abuse reports on people they "ASSUME" is doing wrong..........I am taking a few weeks off this stupid game to deal with my rl. Maybe some others so do the same. Instead of taking it out of others.
Often your posts leave me wondering where you are comming from but this was WAY out of left field.
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Zi Ree
Mrrrew!
Join date: 25 Feb 2006
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06-29-2006 12:39
Region: Kuula, NCI Plaza
Residents *** names withheld ***
Offense: Wearing Nazi outfits / armbands and other signs, generally being rude
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Neural Blankes
Empty Thoughts
Join date: 22 Mar 2006
Posts: 79
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06-29-2006 22:06
Region Kuula
AR filed against *name* for bahavior.
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Seronis Zagato
Verified Resident
Join date: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 454
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Summary For 29 June 2006
06-29-2006 22:17
Date: Thursday, June 29, 2006 Description: Calling another Resident a "moron". Action taken: Warning issued.
This is the ONLY action taken today. A simple warning. What was reported?
- 3 instances of herassment. deserves warnings or more, nothing given
- 1 instance of orbiting - 4 instances of fire bombing - 1 instance of general intolerance - 1 MAJOR instance of racial intolerance - 1 major instance of IM verbal assault - 1 instance of Mature attachments in PG area - 1 instance of beastiality in PG Welcome area each deserves suspensions, nothing given
1 instance of teen being racist (double violation for mere presence) deserves banning, nothing given
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From: Johnny Mann Just cause SL redefines what a videogame can be doesnt mean it isnt a game. From: Ash Venkman I beat SL. (The end guy is really hard.)
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Sarendale Parvenu
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Join date: 16 May 2005
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06-29-2006 22:49
Umm, what good is going to come from a miniscule number of forum readers, a group which is already a minor percentage of the user base, making reports of dubious validity in this thread?
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Sherrianne Hailey
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Join date: 21 Apr 2005
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06-29-2006 22:51
From: Neural Blankes Region Kuula
AR filed against *name* for bahavior. Can't have people engaging in behavior.
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Seronis Zagato
Verified Resident
Join date: 30 Aug 2005
Posts: 454
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06-30-2006 00:14
Kuula sim, 2 incidents of weapons attacks
Massive Grid attack, self replicating red boxes in over a dozen reported sims by the same creator / owner (broadcast over many live help pleas for help).
1 incident stalking.
'Nukes' in sandbox.
multiple issues of racial slander in welcome areas.
(all this brought to you via under 2 hours with live help title on)
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From: Johnny Mann Just cause SL redefines what a videogame can be doesnt mean it isnt a game. From: Ash Venkman I beat SL. (The end guy is really hard.)
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