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Mikael Bligh
Registered User
Join date: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 5
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01-21-2006 13:04
Ladies and gentlemen, its stupid question time!
Im new to second life, and I love building. But my passion at the moment is appreciating what other people build. Let me tell you, second life is just too f-ing beautiful and artistic. But as i have seen, some people decide to take it above the 256m high sky limit.
Qusetion is.. can you fly up to there naturally, or do you need some special script? Is it possible for me to see what they are building up there, and maybe take myself some of my building above that sky limit?
Thanks in advance.
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
Posts: 3,431
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01-21-2006 13:53
Contacted in world and solved..... but for those who don't know........
I make a cube, strech to 10h 10w 0.5d and sit on it, then Edit > More > Options and change the Z value to wherever you want it to go.
You can use the surface you're sitting on to click and create/rez anything you wish - but you can't click on "sky" and create.
Once up there..... just remember the height you're working at - if you fall off, you'll not be able to go back up unless you sit on some other prim. Alternatively, set a Landmark and just teleport directly back up.
Just remember the 'ground level' above where you're working - my ground is set at 91. Useful when you want to come down.
You must, of course, build over your own land - anything that goes over your boundary (which you won't be able to see from up there) may be autoreturned by your neighbours.
Lewis
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
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01-21-2006 14:21
I have a x-flight bar and x-flight wings, either of which I put on if I am trying to get up high. I got these things free, not sure where, but probably at Yadni's. There are free boxes there (well, they cost $1), and there are ones of vehicles, and of wings, I believe; not sure if the bar would be under vehicles. Anyway, these things are out there and free or basically free, and that's how I do it.
coco
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Lucifer Baphomet
Postmodern Demon
Join date: 8 Sep 2005
Posts: 1,771
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01-21-2006 14:30
X-Flight!!!! NONONONONO read this about x flight /54/58/76474/1.html
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Shack Dougall
self become: Object new
Join date: 9 Aug 2004
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01-21-2006 14:32
I use AzFlight and it works really well for me. You can get the script here. Just put the script in an attached prim.
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
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01-21-2006 15:58
Well, it was free, and I rarely use it anyway. So I don't understand why I should now send it back along with $100, then buy something else. coco
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AJ DaSilva
woz ere
Join date: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 1,993
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01-21-2006 23:28
If you're not bothered about zipping along at an insane speed, I've found Argent Stonecutter's Cyberflight to be pretty good.
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Ironraptor Albion
Shiny metal raptor
Join date: 30 Jul 2005
Posts: 83
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01-21-2006 23:34
Of course, you could just get an Outland Tech jetpack. You can soom up past 256 M, AND, look pretty kickass doing so. 
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Garnet Psaltery
Walking on the Moon
Join date: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 913
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01-22-2006 01:50
Personally I favour the Spork.
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Chage McCoy
Aerodrome Janitor
Join date: 23 Apr 2004
Posts: 336
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01-22-2006 03:09
Just a word from the wise with regards to exploring the sky.
Many people will get particularly narky if you start exploring "their" builds up above the flight path. Quite a few people build up there for a reason, mainly for privacy. Expect security scripts.
I have given up trying to build at those heights, I get more visitors when I am trying to work on my private platform than I did when on the ground.
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Torley Linden
Enlightenment!
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 16,530
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01-22-2006 03:11
It sounds like a Pink Floyd album, doesn't it... "A Great Collection of Flight Scripts"... someone should compile all the free ones into a box with blessings and then distro that. What other ones are there in addition to what's already been listed? 
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Siggy Romulus
DILLIGAF
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
Posts: 5,711
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01-22-2006 05:28
use any plane - flying saucer - rocket pack - flight script - anything
I don't mind ppl flying past my platform in the sky - its just an assortment of curious half finished junk.
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
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01-22-2006 06:02
From: Chage McCoy Many people will get particularly narky if you start exploring "their" builds up above the flight path. Quite a few people build up there for a reason, mainly for privacy. Expect security scripts. If I can get to it, it's fair game to explore as far as I'm concerned. If there is a security script that prevents me from getting close, fine, but anything that throws me half way across a sim will get an AR from me. There is no such thing as 'privacy' in SL, and I wish people would stop trying to make out that there is. If you can't do it with the risk of others seeing, you shouldn't be doing it in a public area - such as an online game. Lewis
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Garnet Psaltery
Walking on the Moon
Join date: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 913
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01-22-2006 06:10
From: Lewis Nerd There is no such thing as 'privacy' in SL, and I wish people would stop trying to make out that there is. If you can't do it with the risk of others seeing, you shouldn't be doing it in a public area - such as an online game. Lewis
People don't stop being people when they come into SL. There are occasions when you need a bit of privacy, and it's only common courtesy to respect that need. It isn't always about sex - could be any number of reasons. If I'm talking to a friend in my house I don't want people barging in on the conversation - which could be very personal - or sometimes I just need a bit of peace. For me this is very much not a game and I'm certainly not alone in that view.
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Shack Dougall
self become: Object new
Join date: 9 Aug 2004
Posts: 1,028
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01-22-2006 07:05
From: Lewis Nerd If I can get to it, it's fair game to explore as far as I'm concerned.
If no one is home, then I agree. But if someone is in their home, whether on the ground or in the air, then we just need to use some common sense. As a builder, I'm sensitive to this. If I want to create things for SL, then I have to do it in SL. There's no option to do it offline. What I need isn't privacy, but peace and quiet when I'm building.
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Memir Quinn
Registered User
Join date: 7 May 2005
Posts: 306
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01-22-2006 07:13
From: Garnet Psaltery People don't stop being people when they come into SL. There are occasions when you need a bit of privacy, and it's only common courtesy to respect that need. It isn't always about sex - could be any number of reasons. If I'm talking to a friend in my house I don't want people barging in on the conversation - which could be very personal - or sometimes I just need a bit of peace. For me this is very much not a game and I'm certainly not alone in that view. No you aren't alone. Additionally rack up enough frivolous ARs over recognized and LL approved security systems (i.e. eject or TP home, with a time/delay warning) the only thing likely to happen is that the lindens might begin to stop taking said person's ARs seriously. Can only cry wolf but so often.
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
Posts: 3,431
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01-22-2006 07:56
From: Garnet Psaltery If I'm talking to a friend in my house I don't want people barging in on the conversation - which could be very personal - or sometimes I just need a bit of peace. For me this is very much not a game and I'm certainly not alone in that view. If you don't want anyone else to hear any part of your conversation.... that's what the Instant Message was designed for. Lewis
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ArchTx Edo
Mystic/Artist/Architect
Join date: 13 Feb 2005
Posts: 1,993
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01-22-2006 10:02
For the last several months I have been using an excellent flight assist device called Guardian v2.0 made by Jessica Qin. It is available for purchase at Wo & Shade, Importers, Igbo (81, 64, 69), for $250.
It is a fantastic flight assist device and an incredible deal considering all the features:
Guardian Angel is a full-function flight assist that includes: - a jetpack - a head-up display with location / position / heading information - sound effects - a scanner / autoscanner - a push gun - a beacon function - phantom mode I especially like the ability to turn position on and off, to see how high i am flying.
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Lucifer Baphomet
Postmodern Demon
Join date: 8 Sep 2005
Posts: 1,771
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01-22-2006 10:06
From: Cocoanut Koala Well, it was free, and I rarely use it anyway. So I don't understand why I should now send it back along with $100, then buy something else. coco Hes not saying that, hes saying if youve sold it in any way to pay, and asking if you do have it, dont use it, cause its old buggy and by current standards pretty crap
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
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01-22-2006 10:18
Oh. Well, as I said, I almost never use either the bar or the wings, and when I do I haven't noticed any bugs or anything. I'm assuming that my using it to see what's way up in the air over my land and then coming back down, that wouldn't hurt the game in any way, right? coco P.S. I don't use them for flying distances, cause they go way faster than my computer can keep up with them!
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Memir Quinn
Registered User
Join date: 7 May 2005
Posts: 306
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01-22-2006 10:27
Personally I prefer Jillian's HUD Jetpack, attaches to a hud point (saves an attachment point). Variable speeds all the way to 'omgz-speedy!'. Includes a super jump as well as a drop down indicator of the Speed of your AV, Altitude, and Above Ground Level. All unobtrusive and as easy to use as attaching and flying. ^.^ We're selling them out of Abbotts Aerodrome Phase 5 at Abbotts and Phase 5 HQ Phase 5 Airfield in Caldbeck Or just IM Jill or myself and we'll happy point you in the proper direction! ^.^
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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01-22-2006 11:48
From: ArchTx Edo Guardian Angel is a full-function flight assist that includes: - a jetpack - a head-up display with location / position / heading information - sound effects - a scanner / autoscanner - a push gun - a beacon function - phantom mode I especially like the ability to turn position on and off, to see how high i am flying. My Cyberflight script (previously mentioned) is available for purchase at Skyhook Station (above Avalon Lagoon in Lostfurest dAlliez), for L$1. It's open source, freely resistributable, and comes with full perms, so if the price is too high you can get it from someone who already has it. It's not nearly as fancy, though. It includes: - No jetpack or other externally visible components. - A heads-up display with location, altitude, and velocity. - No sound effects. - No scanner, but you can get one for another L$1 at the same location. - No guns. - No phantom mode, whatever that is. It also automatically adjusts to sim lag and uses the minimum boost possible, so it's just like flying normally... except you can fly as high as you like. You don't have to turn it on and off, though you can click the HUD to turn the display off or lock it on even when you're not flying. If you really want to fly fast, Cubey Terra's boost attachments are gorgeously decadent retro-50s designs, there's no way I could compete with them nor do I want to. If you want something that looks cool, Szentasha Salome's techsuits use a modified version of Cyberflight.
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Jessica Qin
Wo & Shade, Importers
Join date: 16 Feb 2005
Posts: 161
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01-22-2006 13:51
From: Argent Stonecutter - No phantom mode, whatever that is.
For the record, the phantom mode no longer works (and hasn't been advertised since the Lindens closed the hole). But back when I started selling it, this was basically the script internals of my Steel Angel wings with no wings -- people kept asking me to pull the scripts out of SA and drop 'em into a different set of wings, I thought this was a better solution. I added the phantom mode 'cause it was fun. Oh, you can make Guardian invisible if you want, and it also has a particle beacon ala the Dayton 9000. Finally -- I know I've hosed up the perms on my vendors at least three times and sold versions with full copy / transfer for weeks at a time. Oops. So if you can't scrape together the L$250, ask around, I suspect it won't take long to uncover a free copy  Jess
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AJ DaSilva
woz ere
Join date: 15 Jun 2005
Posts: 1,993
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01-22-2006 14:15
From: Jessica Qin Finally -- I know I've hosed up the perms on my vendors at least three times and sold versions with full copy / transfer for weeks at a time. Oops. So if you can't scrape together the L$250, ask around, I suspect it won't take long to uncover a free copy  What a lovely attitude! 
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Mikael Bligh
Registered User
Join date: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 5
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01-22-2006 16:16
Thanks everyone for their support. Now I can reach above the 250M! I liked the jetpacks, but zooming into the sky is not m style. I rather prefer the sitting into the rez object technique. Thanks for taking your time to suggest alternatives anyway  . I see SL has a very willing to help community, which is just another great thing of this awsome game. About privacy up high in the sky, I do not intend to get there and stick my nose up their buildings, but instead, what I thought was to look from a reasonable distance, in such way that I would not disturb any builders and their privacy. Anyways, I dont think that looking at their buildings would be any disturbance anyways, especially if they awsomely well built.
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