re: Radio Linden

the Radio Linden announcement a couple days ago apparently never saw a thread open to discuss any ideas or anything, so here it is.

first of all, i think it will be groovy to have such a station and it appears that it will be symbiotic in success. sharing resources/ideas with player-run stations, maybe they could even advertise on each others airwaves? (or groundwaves as it were )

another idea i wanted to point out is that there have been a couple of attempts to start up SL-based recording labels. currently i know of only one, which i can't remember the name of right now.. i just searched for it, but only turned up Third Life Records, which i think has since gone under. (feel free to correct that info if i'm wrong)
anyhoo, i was thinking it would be cool to see a program of exclusive content from such a label. bringing SL artists to light, as well as strengthening the SL recording label industry, which has historically had a hard time of it.

either way, i'm glad to see Radio Linden.. hehe, "RL".. and wish it well.

I believe theres a music video based in SL..

check it out here..with the record label (Dark Celebrity)

http://www.noirjet.com/

Why don't the Lindens buy ad space on established user-created stations to make their "official" announcements instead of GOMing the radio market, too?

Why would they? That would give a player unfair advantage, and we all know how much everyone here loves unfair advantages.

I like that they're looking for resident music, I was really impressed with the stuff I heard on help radio. It had never occured to me that there were so many musicians around sl.

I guess I don't really understand the point of it? And is this a good use of the limited resources LL has? I don't mean to be negative, I just think there are more pressing things that could be worked on.

granted there are many more pressing matters that could be attended to, but what's a world with no fun and all business?

perhaps some that are working within Radio Linden arent the ones who have to work on these other matters? not everyone can do every job, true?

plus, like i say, it's nice to have things that LL does for the community.

and Ingrid, that's a good point. why create more strife by construed favortism, real or not, when it could simply be done the way it's being done. personally, i'd rather see it done the other way around, where SLer stations can buy ads on Radio Linden instead. then leaveit up to SLers if they want to return the favor.. or if they want to seel ad space to LL.

Personally, I found a radio station in SL I really like. Rock on Siggy and Lecktor!

With that being said, I think Torley is doing a great job and this particular aspect of her job is right up her alley.

Two thumbs up go Lindens go! I love the idea of a LL radio station.

Cat

"We plan to be broadcasted at the Welcome Area and Infohubs"

I assume one would be able to get the url and listen to it from anywhere through an external player.

Why would it not be available at all the sandboxes and other Linden areas?

For that matter why not make it playable everywhere in SL by giving us the ability to select an url to listen to anywhere in SL without having to own land?

Or is this an attempt to produce some reason to go to the InfoHubs?

I suppose they will want to add some dance machines and a particle generator or two, maybe a swirling textures floor.

Dunno - I think the 'all user content' think will bite them in the arse like SL TV did - just not enough user content.

I have a song that a user wrote and gave to me to play - but I don't think that Paca Hannibals song 'Siggy Romulus is a fucking asshole' is suitable for play at infohubs.

(Yes its a real song he sang - I played it on my show yesterday)

I'll submit it though and see how it goes - I'm all for getting Paca his 15 minutes.

They couldn't find me for mine so they gave them to Madonna.

-_-

ALLO! =^_^=

Just a few points of clarification (making it "official", that sounds surreal):

1. This isn't taking away from any preestablished resources. It's an AND thing, not an OR thing. Radio Linden Crew is currently comprised of a few Lindens who volunteered to get together and set this up as a satellite project. Certainly, FUN is a priority, but I was thinking the other day about how different people get their info: some are quite auditory learners and prefer books on tape (or MP3, mediums, messages, and all that). Being who I am, I look at gaps. I'd love to see more Resident radio stations in SL. But we might as well have a Linden one for official Linden news+info because... only Lindens can do that.
   

1. This is also consistent with my philosophy of lightsteppin'. Resourcefully mobilizing and moving quickly. (Think of a hyperkinetic anime sequence where the protagonist is wearing some sort of displacement techsuit.) Some may more endearly term it as "cyber ghetto crunk pirate radio", which has a certain "edge" to it, and I'm happy this thread started, because already I'm getting more ideas! What Suez said... we may open it up more when we get there, this is a spiritual successor to what began with Help Radio.
   

1. Siggy, alas, Radio Linden is PG for now 'cuz of Infohubs in PG sims. We also haven't received your submission yet. While we're certainly appreciative of having Resident music, Radio Linden isn't "all user content" as we plan to have a weight of official Linden schtuff--so if we do get an arsebite, maybe it'll just be a little nibble!
   

Speaking of Help Island's "radio" - would it be possible to make it into a looped stream so that everyone hears the same thing at the same time, and it doesn't start over from the beginning when you cross a parcel boundary?

Torley alone has 230 songs, almost 16 hours worth non-stop.

I have another 20 or so songs.

There are at least a dozen musicians with a ton of songs to donate to the radio station.

Music is a lot easier to do when you're not forced to use SL to make it.

when can we expect Lindenzilla????

No offense but by the same token you could sit video linden out in a field for 24 hours and call it TV.

If you were doing the 'Torley Linden Show' for a few hours - then sure - folks tune in to that - but an entire radio station that don't make. I think you'll need a certain amount of diversity to appeal.

It would be like me trying to run Fucktard Radio Live for 24 hours - that wouldn't work as a 'station' but works well as a 'show' of 3 hours long.

I could be wrong - there might be loads of user content out there to run, but I only know of a handful.

Again - like SLTV - I don't wish it ill.. I'm just not convinced that there is enough user content to drive it.

Hey!

/signed. I just don't see the point of such a station - I'm not certain what it can offer that current stations don't, and without tying the big-wigs up. I'd much rather see LL fixing problems, and there are ALL SORTS of problems to be fixed, than having a good-time-hee-haw on my bill.

Not that I know of, sadly, because of the format it's in--one big MP3 file, I think. Radio Linden will be a lot more flexible tho.



Blue Linden is Lindenzilla.





Just to clear up any confusion, this is not a "user content"-driven station. It's a Linden station, delivering official info, and we want to include Resident music too!

And it isn't removing time allocated to anything currently in place. Actually, again, there is at least one problem this is relating to: communicating with Residents and getting the word out there. As I've mentioned before earlier in the thread, some prefer to get their info via audio. We're going to explore that--and a variety of interconnected things too, and do it as resourcefully as we can.



Siggy's onto something here--we want to scale it up.

I would like a more comprehensive list of Resident-run stations currently on the air, though. Taco, which ones do you already know? Anyone, please suggest!

Anyone know offhand who runs Plush radio? of all the SL radio stations I've listened to (and my experience is probably very limited) it's the most professional, running constantly with commercials for SL businesses - I'd talk to them about the trials and tribulations and what to expect.

Again, I wish you all the luck in the world with this undertaking, and I hope sincerely that it a) works well and b) proves a benifit to the community. The only point I'm trying to make is that once again, LL is announcing a wonderful new feature that nobody has asked for, while NOT introducing things that are requested, and then citing resource issues for the lack of development. I simply am not seeing "Make a SL Radio Station" amidst the hundreds of posts here, many of which are not currently being done due to lack of resources.



Then I'd humbly suggest the community team use their ample time to work on a) forum rules, b) tweak resmod further, c) figure out how the TOS can be changed to stop Impeach Bush guys, or d) relaxing and taking plenty of naps so you're focused on projects for the next day.


To me, it's not unlike Trinity Serpentine's wonderful signature:

This is something I do take a bit of issue with. Obviously, the infohubs are not great places of gathering as they are now, and with the wealth of content out there, I don't see this changing. If LL is really wanting to have their announcements be heard by the widest range of an audience, maybe these things need to be put up for download, or at least some kind of post saying what's in them so the people who do their own radio station can make similar announcements. Having one radio station broadcasting important information is good, but having as many radio stations as possible broadcasting the same information gets maximum exposure. I don't see why the station has to be only way for players to get their info.

As for the station as a whole, I think that something like this was inevitable, but it doesn't nessecarily make me happy. I know that our show has been working on recruiting local talent for our show/podcast since people all of a sudden began randomly giving us things *grins* While the xposure for the artists is great, it *is* competition, since people can only be listening to one station at a time. (Trust me, I've tried listening to more....it just hurts)

As you mentioned, you're looking for all ingame station, and I'll gladly pimp the one Trin and I broadcast for (RadioRadio: http://media1.servercave.com:15822/RadioRadio) even though it is not a 24/7 station anymore, but with so many users constantly choosing JACK-style stations on shoutcast.com over user-created things, it makes less sense to bear the costs these days.

I'm willing to see this through, but something at the back of my head is really giving me an awful feeling....mostly that this can be used by LL to start throwing their own radio events (as has been done sporadically in the past), and no matter the game.platform, no player-run event can compete with a company-sponsored one.

Just my musings. I'll be very interested to see where this goes.

*chuckle*

So glad I wasn't taking a sip of anything when I read that!

Agreed. As co-owner of a station that has been in existence since September of 2004 and "in-world" for as long, AND it runs 24/7, I would be more than happy to add some SL/LL content into our stream (i just spoke with the other owner and he is also in complete agreement).
We are also very open to playing resident-created music but we try to stick to mainly a rock and metal format...doesn't mean we would REFUSE to play resident-created content though, we'd happily support it all.

I think that LL offering the PSA's to other radio stations is a great idea. I think that any 'essential' information should be shared with other broadcasters, so as users are not forced to switch stations to receive that information.

I am in the same camp as Taco on this one, I don't see this as a service best provided by LL. It just seems like a waste of resources and infringement into user's businesses.

But....I wish you the best of luck!