Silence Free Accounts on the Forums
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chocoletkiss Milk
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07-23-2006 08:26
From: Banking Laws Linden Labs isn't compelled to give you a soapbox to harp on. I can kick your 'free speech' right out of my rl apartment too.
Lindens labs doesn't have to let people who have never given them a penny speak on the forums.. get over your holier than thou crusade because the LAW says Linden Labs doesn't have to even give you access to their site or game.
You get what you pay for. Check the status banking ,, just check the status.. and that you can take to the bank .. |
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Phedre Aquitaine
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07-23-2006 08:27
From: Eli Langway L. O. L. Just when I thought you people couldn't act any more retarded, you said that. I'll give you a hint: It's summer, we don't have school in the summer. I've worked my share of nasty jobs you wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. If you're an anti-intellectual, then you can continue to be an dick, that's fine with me. Obviously, I'm not starving, I was exaggerating, but I don't have disposable income like... some people... so before you get back on you high horse, just remember that you're already priviledged, and you don't need to keep showing off. But then, of course, you're an idiot, so I doubt anyone can be too hurt by the things you say. Calling Pratyeka an idiot and anti-intellectual made me LOL. It was a snarky, "oh dear she did not just say that" sort of LOL, but it was a LOL nonetheless.
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Banking Laws
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07-23-2006 08:27
From: chocoletkiss Milk Check the status banking ,, just check the status.. and that you can take to the bank .. My point is LL do not have to give you forum access. Nor does freedom of speech apply in private forums. ~tickles Phedre~
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Fade Languish
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07-23-2006 08:28
From: Pratyeka Muromachi If you really are a starving student, why don't you get a real job, or at least get back to your books and study for a change? So in the future you can get a real job. What wrong with you? Very zen. |
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Nogard Codesmith
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07-23-2006 08:30
From: Phedre Aquitaine I, personally, think it would be a hoot to get into an argument with my alts. From: Lucifer Baphomet I've done it a few times inworld Phee
I'd show you, but you wouldnt get taken in as you know my alts, so there's no comedy value in it. HAH! Im glad to see im not the only one who does this. -multiple (best switch ever) |
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Eli Langway
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07-23-2006 08:31
From: Phedre Aquitaine Calling Pratyeka an idiot and anti-intellectual made me LOL.
It was a snarky, "oh dear she did not just say that" sort of LOL, but it was a LOL nonetheless. (He) But anyway, I think it was justified based on what was said to me. If you would like to argue that, I can repost what all was said if you don't want to go back and think for a second. |
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chocoletkiss Milk
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07-23-2006 08:32
From: Banking Laws My point is LL do not have to give you forum access. Nor does freedom of speech apply in private forums.
~tickles Phedre~ well as of today right now they LL has chosen to give those that are free accounts access to all that it has to offer and I dont see them complaining so why are we. and honestly i am sure they have looked at the numbers and know those with free accounts are spending money on the game as well.. which is why they have no problem allowing access. Makes good business since to give something free because in the long run most likely they will probably spend more. Think of it this way, for every dollar LL is saving by allowing free accounts they are probably making 2 on that account because we all know nothing is truly free. |
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Mephiston Loschmidt
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07-23-2006 08:33
i find it incredibly funny the amount of discrimination and elitism that occurs around here towards the various different levels of subscription people have. do all those that think that restricting forums to people who "pay for said privelage"  sp) think that just because you pay for SL, that you're going to stop half the stupidity that happens around here? Obviously, you have never played, or at least been active in the community of games like world of warcraft, and starwars galaxies, where subscription is mandatory, and yet they have probably the most childish and rediculous forums of any mmog i have seen. In the case of the latter, people actually pay money to be able to post on the forums for a game they dont play.. and usually wind up being immature about it to boot. It may seem like a good idea, and perhaps in an ideal world it is, but restricting access to a public forum (and yes, SL forums are public as of the date SL was opened to free subscription) by silencing those that dont pay for it will NOT stop people from acting childish, or for that matter speaking their minds, and ultimately will change NOTHING. Oh, and yes i'm proudly a free SL member, so take my post however you like, but to segregate a community based on class, and stereotype all those in that class, thats just wrong. |
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Banking Laws
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07-23-2006 08:33
From: chocoletkiss Milk well as of today right now they LL has chosen to give those that are free accounts access to all that it has to offer and I dont see them complaining so why are we. and honestly i am sure they have looked at the numbers and know those with free accounts are spending money on the game as well.. which is why they have no problem allow access. Those who aren't verified aren't spending.
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Adriana Caligari
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07-23-2006 08:37
From: Summer Carmichael As suggested in another thread, should free accounts have a voice on the forum, or should they be silenced? I had a free account for nearly a year ( and still have a few ). With that free account I created content (lots of it ), and built up a customer base in excess of 25,000 people. You want to silence me - OK I wont say anything and I won't read the forums either. Not reading the forums will mean that I don't keep up with the news on glitches and patches. Not posting in the forums means I cannot report them as I see them. Sounds fare to me - I cant post I dont pass on bugs when I see them - I'll let you high and mighty verified people do that. |
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Banking Laws
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07-23-2006 08:39
From: Adriana Caligari I had a free account for nearly a year ( and still have a few ).
With that free account I created content (lots of it ), and built up a customer base in excess of 25,000 people.
You want to silence me - OK
I wont say anything and I won't read the forums either.
Not reading the forums will mean that I don't keep up with the news on glitches and patches.
Not posting in the forums means I cannot report them as I see them.
Sounds fare to me - I cant post I dont pass on bugs when I see them - I'll let you high and mighty verified people do that. Report them to the lindens. Thats what bug report is for. Not reading announcements is your problem.
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Lucifer Baphomet
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07-23-2006 08:39
From: Banking Laws Those who aren't verified aren't spending. Thats not true, Jonas, I know of unverifieds who do spend. This is like the old Premium/Basic bullshit we used to see on the forums.
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Banking Laws
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07-23-2006 08:40
From: Lucifer Baphomet Thats not true, Jonas, I know of unverifieds who do spend.
This is like the old Premium/Basic bullshit we used to see on the forums. You mean they put credit card info in and use it? No, that would make them verified.
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- Thomas Jefferson, 3rd U.S. President
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Lucifer Baphomet
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07-23-2006 08:40
From: Adriana Caligari I had a free account for nearly a year ( and still have a few ).
With that free account I created content (lots of it ), and built up a customer base in excess of 25,000 people.
You want to silence me - OK
I wont say anything and I won't read the forums either.
Not reading the forums will mean that I don't keep up with the news on glitches and patches.
Not posting in the forums means I cannot report them as I see them.
Sounds fare to me - I cant post I dont pass on bugs when I see them - I'll let you high and mighty verified people do that. You're missing the point..... Summer is unverified Adriana.
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chocoletkiss Milk
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07-23-2006 08:41
From: Banking Laws Those who aren't verified aren't spending. Thought we were talking about FREE ACCOUNTS.. you can have a free account and be verified.. maybe i am confusing the 2.. let me call LL and find out if a person can have a Free Account and still be Verified.. and let me make sure we are talking about FREE ACCOUNTS.. UMMM |
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Lucifer Baphomet
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07-23-2006 08:43
From: Banking Laws You mean they put credit card info in and use it? No, that would make them verified. No, I mean they accumulate cash, through the shit you and i wouldnt touch with a bargepole like camping chairs, and use that cash to either upload textures for their own creations, or buy other peoples stuff. whichever way, theyre still spending, and still part of the "economy".
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Adriana Caligari
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07-23-2006 08:45
From: Lucifer Baphomet You're missing the point..... Summer is unverified Adriana. So was I until I chose to add my paypal account to my details. I had never spent a dollar on SL - but had spent hundred's of thousands of Linden. |
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Lucifer Baphomet
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07-23-2006 08:47
From: Adriana Caligari So was I until I chose to add my paypal account to my details.
I had never spent a dollar on SL - but had spent hundred's of thousands of Linden. Exactly my point to Jonas about unverifieds "not spending". Summer starting a thread "should free accounts be silenced", is like me starting a "should people with satanic avatars be banned"
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07-23-2006 08:48
From: chocoletkiss Milk Thought we were talking about FREE ACCOUNTS.. you can have a free account and be verified.. maybe i am confusing the 2.. let me call LL and find out if a person can have a Free Account and still be Verified.. and let me make sure we are talking about FREE ACCOUNTS.. UMMM I'm talking about verified, check my first post. From: Lucifer Baphomet No, I mean they accumulate cash, through the shit you and i wouldnt touch with a bargepole like camping chairs, and use that cash to either upload textures for their own creations, or buy other peoples stuff.
whichever way, theyre still spending, and still part of the "economy".
LL should consider those verified in my mind.
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Mephiston Loschmidt
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07-23-2006 08:48
From: Banking Laws Those who aren't verified aren't spending. Just because you dont have payment info on file, that does not mean you can't contribute to the economy of SL. After all, lindens, if i have my information right, is the basis of the economy in SL, and real world currency is just a means of cycling an excess / shortage of lindens. I'd wager that anyone that makes a significant amount of real currency out of this game would not care about unverified players, if they were still buying their products in game. Credit Card / Paypal is not the only means of obtaining money in SL, its just how the game currency is brought in in the first place. Edit: beaten like a government mule. |
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Chronic Skronski
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07-23-2006 08:50
From: Xceptopec Wolfstein Define 'free account' unverified user! You know - the peons. Those who are ignored by the premium members even if their opinions are totally valid. Those who are banned from many parts of second life due only to their class/status. Those who are automatically lumped in with the griefers.
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Joy Honey
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07-23-2006 08:51
From: Siggy Romulus I'm holding out for a freedom of STFU myself. That is, sadly, one of the most underused freedoms.
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Adriana Caligari
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07-23-2006 08:51
From: Lucifer Baphomet Exactly my point to Jonas about unverifieds "not spending".
Summer starting a thread "should free accounts be silenced", is like me starting a "should people with satanic avatars be banned" Ahh I see - apologies - didnt catch that first time round. |
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chocoletkiss Milk
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07-23-2006 08:53
From: Banking Laws I'm talking about verified, check my first post.
LL should consider those verified in my mind. YES ,, but this thread is about Free accounts not having access to the forum not unverified verses verified.. that is my point.. limiting access to free accounts is not fair because those accounts can still spend real money. |
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Lucifer Baphomet
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07-23-2006 08:54
From: Banking Laws LL should consider those verified in my mind. Summer...... you're verified now. I don't like all this verified/unverified crap. Its creating artificial divisions. Ive met Summer, Jonas, and shes witty, and already a very competent builder. You'd like her, but this artificial division in nthe community would put up blocks between you and her inworld, just because of that little box that says unverified. 
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