Make a positive contribution and change to these forums

Here it goes yet again in this thread. Please recognize the cycle and stop.

While I agree with the general sentiments here, I can't help but remember that over the last two weeks at least six other people have expressed the same or similar ideas long before people in this thread did. And they disappeared without a trace.

Why? And why now are these same sentiments recognized?

A lot of good ideas get lost on these forums, only the resurface when restated by someone else. I'm increasingly aware of that and it puzzles me.

love this idea!!!!! I kissed my dog today

Yes, I am hijacking this thread. Because apparently I can't open and post my own anymore because Robin has got a hard on for me.

Please, I beg of you all. Let this thread die here.

Ok I am.

More baiting and derailing because of your own issues again. Cheap shots at Pathfinder, now Robin, who's next?

Seth,

Often times great suggestions are made in the midst of a thread that becomes a train wreck, or that gets derailed and the original point is lost. That is what is so maddening right now - everything is lost in this swirl of chaos, and it has to stop somehow.

Look .. I apologize for hijacking the thread.

But really.. stop for a second and put yourself in my shoes. I am being singled out for .. what.. saying we should turn images off in the main forum?

<gasp> Yes, lock this thread! Immediately! <gasp>

Clearly the only explanation is that Robin has decided to censor me because clearly my unpopular ideas are no longer palatable for these forums.

Fair enough, I get the message, I'll have to stop posting - I have been censored.

Cris, I was attempting to stay on topic, I had an idea, and I was encouraging everyone to stay on topic.

But Robin just decides to wade in there and close it down. What kind of incentive is this to stay on topic? To encourage others to stay on topic?

None.

It's pretty upsetting .. I had assumed that the Lindens were more concerned about the level of insulting dialogue in these forums and not so much about the particular content.

Clearly .. I was wrong. The insults can fly around as much as they want as long as we keep a certain segment of the Forum population happy.

Lecktor, thank you very much for the welcome! I'm assuming that if we meet up it will be for more than just a "bite"?

I appreciate your offer immensely. I can get really lost easily, and it's not just because I'm a natural blonde I'll take you up on your offer.

Cindy

blaze, please...........................

I'm sorry.. I'm just a little enraged here.

They are clearly taking out their lack of experience in proper forum moderation on people like me.

Blaze,

Take this for what you will, it is some constructive criticism. I imagine the reason you are being singled out is not for your contrary opinions. What they are concerned about is keeping it a positive environment, and whether you see it or not, you have a tendency to start topics that serve no purpose but to incite a reaction. This is not condusive to a healthy forum environment. For example, the SLPICs thread that you started was insulting to me - you never spoke to me to find out my feelings before starting out the gate stating they were doing something wrong.

If you want civility and respect, show some and it will come back to you. Please stop stirring the pot. You are wildly intelligent - the fact that you made an application that can interact with the SL UI is impressive. The fact that you then start a thread about the dangers of spam using the tool you created - um, not so impressive. Put some more thought into what the potential could be.

I don't want to see you censored or removed from the forums, but I would admittedly like to see less strife, and whatever you can do to reduce that will only help you in the long run.

Where is that guy that posts pics in threads?

The forums are a public square. Whatever we post here we do in public with full knowledge that we will be judged by what we say and how we behave by the rest of the public, including the forum moderators and other LL employees. It's illogical to believe that what you do in the public square will not potentially be discussed by the public, LL, or a combination of the two. If the forum moderators or anyone else at LL has an opinion about me they are free to express it to whomever they wish, wherever tand whenever they wish, as is everyone else. That's the nature of engaging in a public square. You neglect to mention that what Pathfinder was talking about was asking people to exercise moderation and not engage in flame wars. He admitted that we have a particularly problem causing poster who skirts around the TOS. That's not a secret. We all know it's true and exactly who it is. But, while admitting this is a problem, Path basically defended that person's right to be here and speak and urged everyone to try not to pick fights. To call what happened in the IRC channel gossip is a mischaracterization and deliberately inflammatory.

The IRC channel is open to anyone who chooses to go there and participate. There is nothing exclusive about it. It has nothing to do with a special cabal of priveledged players with undue influence, and you know that full well. You could just as easily have been there as anyone else, two years old or two days old. Trying to tie it to the concept of FIC is once again a mischaracterization and deliberately inflammatory.

"People neglect to mention that it does happen sometimes"

People neglect to mention it because it doesn't happen... what does happen is not gossip, FIC, or anything else. It is public discourse which we are all participating in with free will, and we should all be willing to accept that what we do here may become to subject of conversation among anyone and everyone. If you're uncomfortable with that then you shouldn't engage in the public square.

You can't claim the high road if you're deliberately spreading false characterizations and hyperbole. If you're inciting people and they respond with strong language, who's really the one causing problems? It's like a little kid poking his sister over and over and over until she finally slugs him in the face, and then he cries "Mom! She hit me!" If you're constantly getting harsh reactions then take responsibility for it yourself. Think about what you post and the language you use. Please.

Blaze, you haven't been singled out. We closed 3 threads for review. All had become negative, angry and full of innuendo. All were being added to faster than we could edit them or make any reasonable determination as to the best way to moderate them.

Once we've had a chance to go through the threads we'll edit them as needed, respond where it seems warranted, and repost.

Sigh, blaze. This is about Chris wishing to be more positive. I would think you would appreciate this. Am I wrong?

Maybe, and I'm just guessing here, but maybe another explanation is trolling

Cris hates being called Chris. And I hate being called Cris. Just wanted to clear that up.

i dunno

This sounds like a really excellent, super idea, Aimee. I'm making a little sticky with this to put on my wall! It's SO helpful.

Like how you used it right now, because you weren't in that IRC channel at all, so it wasn't fair to relate it to you.

P.S. Did you know that when new people sign up there's a picture of you on the new accounts page? Luv, HH, a big fan

Wow, number on number 3 already in 2 days? You are going to break my altimeter!

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I love your skins, Chip. They're beautiful.

What I especially loved was the wedding photo on SL Herald? Recently? The two women? The one had on this sort of business-like daytime suit? It was really awesome. I think you were in the carriage.

Her pic is there because sex sells, and Aimee is sex on a stick with butterfly wings