SL in the Media Right Now!!!! Get ready for new people in SL

iirc she clarified that she wasn't a psychologist; she had a psychology degree only.

She claimed to have a degree in psychology, yes; sexual psychology, I think.

And to be honest, I think in about 3.27 weeks, 70% of us will have forgotten 125% of what went on. The phrase 'tempest in a teapot' springs to mind.

who wants more perverts or police (and are you saying police are predisposed to buddy up with perverts?) in SL?

Perverts??? What? You found my membership card, didnt you!!!!

I'm too young yet for the Dirty Old Men Of American Society

On a side note, I run a furry cub amusment park in SL. I've seen a dramatic increase of 'interesting' folks coming by since these threads started.. had another one last night again for instance..

Them: "Hi, I'm an 8yo girl using my dads computer.. he's watching me over my shoulder"
Me: "Uh.. rrrright.. if you were 8yo you wouldn't be on SL"
Them: "She IS my daughter, and I AM watching her!"
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Goes on with him trying to tell me how there's family areas of SL.. yeah, mabey on the teen grid, but I'm sure even they have an age minimum.

I'm getting pretty proficient at locating the Report Abuse menu option this past week and adding targets to my new Pyske's security orb for crap like this and the onslaught of new griefers this week attacking park guests.

Now who knows if they were trolling, fishing or just trying to be st00pid.. but persons like this I'd tend to walk away from and ignore before get immediately reported now.. sad state of affairs indeed.

I don't doubt that a fair number of "concerned citizens" are out there attempting to bait people. If you can't find something offensive to protest, in SL you can create it.

Wonder when "Inquisition Island" will be up and running? It'll look something like Disneyland on the surface and be peopled with "concerned" folks in child avatar shapes behaving in disgusting fashion. *brrrr*

Is it just me or does it all seem like the cascading results of one single person's obsession???

Why do some people have to spend every waking hour of their so called real life trying to force restrictions, rules, and laws on everyone else?

Personally speaking, encounters of the third kind with child AVs is not my thing but as long as we can guarantee that everyone involved is adult I do not see how it is any different than vampires, furry sex, or humanoid Av sex. SL sex is SL sex. The moment you start equating it with RL sex, it starts to make me worry about your sex life in RL. And I do not want to worry about your sex life. I have other things to worry about, like my job, my garden at home, unpredictable Texas weather and such.....

We have a few people posting about this issue non-stop on the forums, the same people are going around informing C-NET, next thing they will call FOX News.

Flaming on in SL forums is one thing, going and posting your concerns to anywhere and everywhere and creating a big stink about SL in a sensationalized manner is just darn right irresponsible, childish and also revalatory of a mental state that's not willing to tackle issues in a non-passive aggressive way.

If you do not agree with LL's decision, leave SL. SL is not your god given birth right. The whole point of SL is it is different than RL. Don't ruin it for everyone else.

Thanks in advance,

Troy Vogel
Your fellow resident.

Good idea for a dissertation project.

Man.

Catherine's probably gouging her eyeballs out this morning.

What about Zoey?

Why would Zoey be gouging Catherine's eyes out?

Who knows in this wild, crazy world we live in...

All I am going to say about this is I agree with this person:

http://news.com.com/5208-1043-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=15433&messageID=131063&start=-169


on what was said by this person:

http://news.com.com/5208-1043-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=15433&messageID=130902&start=-169




The thoughts that some people have running through their minds at times is down right scary.

I think it should be illegal to have SL sex with stupid people in SL. It should also be illegal to have RL sex with stupid people. It just pollutes the gene pool and creates dumber babies -- no matter how much of a bundle of joy they may be.

Ahh... there goes our sex lives. Thanks guys.

Troy

Great! Now the people who are obsessed with this are going to pretend that they are the ones doing it to wind the issue up even more!!!

This won't be good. They'll come looking for paedophiles, won't find any, but that may not stop them finding a story.

Just WTF did ppl expect to happen.

Cat

Not at all darlin.

Cat

Selene, I'm not convinced those were valid comments. The wording was put in such a manner to have you react just the way you did. In fact it reminded me greatly of one of the three most vocal that kept referring to "AV Child Porn."

The use of "child," "sex," "legal" and "normal" together was a red flag that this person wanted you to get the idea that members of SL were in fact having sex with children and this was normal and legal.

Sadly, others will read that and get the idea that is what SL is all about....again.

Something came up that made me go hmmm....and this is not directed at Selene, but a general comment. The accusation of violating a trademark as in the case of "Boy Scouts of America" came up also by one of the "opponents. If any of you followed the great "you can't use that trademark you don't have permission" debates...a story was written up in Clickable Culture that showed screen shots of a computer store in SL that sold photosourced images of Apples and Dells. Payback a bitch anyone?

Its just a speculation, but one that kept nagging that for all the wild yelling about illegalities, one of those posters at one time was selling down to the description name branded computer models flagrantly violating the IP of Apple AND Dell. *He has since removed the logos, but the descriptions still use indentifying terms. *Where's Csven when you want him.*

Sometimes apples and oranges do add up to bananas, as this has just been so random and bizzare. I can't help feeling that either we are dealing with the stupidest people in the world, or the most excellent of troll set up.

anyway....I digress.

I understand where you are coming from, Selene (assuming I understood you right), though I bellieve that the Lindens have the morally and legally correct policies in place already.

What the Lindens don't realize is how many, many people would take issue with it. Thus, delivering the smack-down on those residents who do take issue with it is intolerance in the name of tolerance.

coco

Oh no, no, no, no, Rose. That is not even what I thought. I do not believe anyone is SL is actually abusing children -in SL-.

However, the fact that people fantasize about such things is scary. True, most of them will never act on thier thoughts/fantasies in RL, but it is the chance that even one might that bothers me. Most people don't have fantasies of that nature. Rather they fantasize about other adults and not children. Some of those fantasies are not considered to be "normal" by society. Any and all fantasies involving sex with children is in no way, shape or form considered "normal" by society. Personally, I think it takes a pretty twisted mind to fantasize about children in that manner. That is what I was agreeing with.

Maybe the fact that I am a -survivor- of not only child abuse but a 10 year abusive relationship (mentally and physically) has prejudiced my thinking/beliefs but I do not believe that is the case.

*rolls eyes* Next time maybe tell him he should try observing an 8yr old girl before trying to impersonate one. For one thing, they don't describe themselves that way. A child would likely just say "hi" or be too nervous to say much at all and 8yr olds not only rarely type well, they certainly don't usually know how to use abreviations and proper punctuation.

I agree that the in place policies are currently sufficent. Hopefully there won't ever be a need to change them.

Tolerance can only go so far before a line has to be drawn. I am more tolerant of some things than other people are and less tolerant of other things. I try not to force my acceptance levels on others but there are some things I cannot tolerate. So rather than force my intolerance of "child av sex" on others I simply avoid places where it is likely to occur and leave those places I am "accidentally" exposed to it, occasionally never to return to that place if it is a "common" occurance there.

If, however, and I do mean IF, I should ever get wind of a child managing to gain access to the adult grid I will without hesitation or doubt report it to LL. They have no place on the adult grid and should not be exposed to -some- of the things that take place.

Of course all of the above is in light of my correctly understanding your post.

*stares at the screen with burning and somewhat bleary eyes* Yep I think I made all that coherent.

Well, the Lindens do have a strict policy of not allowing underage people on the grid, and when they discover them, they remove them.

So I feel they are doing all they can and should regarding the issue. They would be the first to come down on anyone actually taking advantage of a real child here, but they are not going to involve themselves in the consensual sexual role play of adults.

However, there are those who feel that AV's in the form of children should never be used in sexual role-play.

That IS a valid point of view, and one shared by many people in the real world, and one which psychologists could and probably have made a good case for.

Those three individuals who, out of their sincere concern, believe LL should disallow child AV sexual activities (whether or not we agree with that point of view), are now, if I'm not mistaken, suspended from the game.

In other words, there has been plenty of tolerance on the part of LL toward people engaging in sexual age play (and I am tolerant of it myself, though, like you, I would avoid it).

However, there is no tolerance on the part of LL toward people wishing such activity to be outlawed.

That is the part that a smart reporter will pick up on and go to town with.

coco

I still hate Church Lady.