Give all the volunteer groups power to close accounts

NO.

Sorry some of these "Helpers" are asshats. I want anyone with the power needed to take down my account to be someone who has a vested interest in doing things right and by the books (read PAYCHECK).

Volunteer administration is almost ALWAYS overzealous.

I have to concur with the poster who suggested the volunteer flagging a report for LL, and recording all activities in set area... While having more people with the power to effectively remove un-wanted individuals would be convenient, it does open up more the possibility of abuse of that power.

I'm not saying that it is not possible to set up a system that would minimize the abuse of power....it is very possible, but you'd be creating redundancy. There would have to be a system of checks where a LL employee had to go through a report of all action taken by volunteers for the day/week/whatever, and approve/disprove/get more info on each case. LL Emps would still have just as much work to do, if not more with that system in place.

You just have to ask yourself what happens if a volunteer turns griefer? Or gets paid by another person or organization to 'take someone out'....? Chat logs and such won't always help...there's always ways of goading others into making the first move so as to give the appearence of justification.

As for the comment another person made about adults investing in this world...well, I don't see that happening anytime soon. Please do not misunderstand me, I really wish that it would, but look at any MMO, and chat room, message board, blog, etc..... you'll alway see an abundance of immaturity. The anonymity offered by the internet is just too good to pass up. Joe Blow would never act this way in real life, but he can afford to through his avatar since no one will connect the avatar to the person.....

I forsee the same tools and same powers being used now, extending on to the future with little revision. Yes, the tools will get better and better, but the policies and power over accounts will remain the same (with the LL Employees).

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A $100 sign up fee. That should do it. The Lindens could do with the money, I could do with the peace.

As much as I'd like to see any kind of progress made in the area of keeping the griefing down, I disagree with the idea.

Remember that this is a group of volunteers. Who wouldn't volunteer to get their hands on that kind of power? This is a recipe for unbridled mayhem.

A good reason for you to be the first to be banned by these powers. Live Help is overworked enough already without you paying people to harrass them.

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I would agree, on certain conditions :

All volunteers should have to :

a) Go through minimum of 1 month intensive people management courses
b) Sign a waver saying they accept the full legal obligations of their actions
c) Pass a literacy test
d) Prove they are over 18
e) Agree to fill out in full and triplicate the required forms for every action they take
f ) Agree to attend ( via conference if necessary ) weekly/monthly team meetings regarding the teams work.


I think I just saw the queue to volunteer leave via the side door.


No, not a good idea, unless you agree to all of the above.

Not a good idea anyway... but certainly, volunteers should go through a lot more training than they do now. I've seen a massive growth of disrespect lately... to a degree which not much more than a year ago would have earned us a heafty boot out of the group.

In order to properly respond to abuse reports in real time, the volunteers would of course need to have real time access to chat logs.

The volunteers need POWER to fight evildoers, and to make full use of this power, the volunteers need to be run by a person of STRONG WILL, one who ready to TAKE CHARGE.

There is one among us who has has repeatedly displayed a drive for that sort of power.

Will we give them the support they need - the POWER they need - to save us from ourselves?

Some of your evil doers and volunteers are the same people.

While I agree volunteers should never be able to ban verified accounts, unverified accounts are another matter. They're choosing to be in that mode. While many people have decried "third class accounts", its a choice being made, and if you're not willing to step to the plate and provide some RL account information to Linden Lab, then you're not being accountable, and shouldn't have the same rights as someone who IS being accountable for their actions.

While a ban may not be the solution, perhaps the ability to initiate a suspension with reason, that can then be appealed by the suspended account (perhaps require verification at that point?). If no appeal occurs within a week, then the account is purged and the incident is reviewed by LL to see if an IP or MAC address ban would be a good idea.

Regards,

-Flip

Not just no, but fuck no. What have you been smoking? If you weren't here for the forum fun, then do a search on all the ResMod threads. Now multiply that uproar by a few thousand.

Also, just for the record, I don't need saving from anyone, especially myself.

I think that instead the Lindens should deputize the Green Lantern Corps. They have the oath and all. Volunteers just have to not have a record and be over two months.

They are a scurvy bunch...

Not a hope Flip... and if you ask me, even granting suspension powers is beyond the pale. Like I said on page 1, give volunteers the ability to flag a situation for Linden review. It will give prority and if a person needs banning or whatever, the evidence is all saved... but under no circumstances allow banning, or I for one will go through the list of people that use that power, and use it on them.

Oh--and they have the Power Rings. You can't beat a Power Ring for fighting evil.

Oh--and I understand there is a Justice League in SL (not to be confused with the late Metaverse Justice Watch). If you can't trust the Justice League with great power, who can you trust? After all, with great power comes great responsiblity.

No wait--that's Spider-Man...

Well, as I said before, I was previously on a site where residents had ban tools. It didn't work.

Or you could give the power to Volunteers--but require three of them to work together. To invoke this awesome power, a Mentor, a Greeter, and a Live Helper (Instructors just can not be trusted) would have to join hands, then raise them above their head, and recite "BY THE POWER OF PHIL!"

Then there would be a burst of multicolored particle lights, and their eyes would glow, and they could smite an evildoer.

And make them do it while wearing funny hats, too. That way you ensure the power is not used irresponsibly.

It is not a good idea anyway. Power leads to corruption - that's a lesson that anyone over the age of twelve should have learned from experience. The Lindens have power, but it is checked by the fact that they want to keep their residents and their good name. Giving other people power is just asking for problems - and I know because I have seen it.

Wait--I have an even better idea--in order to ban an Evildoer, Volunteers have to fight them with swords. They can only kill the Evildoers by lopping their head off, while shouting "There Can Be Only One!"

Then there is a huge electrical storm, and the now victorious Volunteer absorbs all of the now-headless Evildoer's ratings.

Hmm--I've been thinking this over some more. Forget all of what I posted.

The whole idea just plain sucks.

Along with the power to ban, to cancel accounts, to read chat logs and private chat in real time, the volunteer groups should also have the ability to track people on the map and read the contents of people's inventories.

There will be no controlling griefing without giving some people POWER to CONTROL US!

Where is the strong leader we need to step up to our defense?

Only One? You obviously missed the next 2 er...3.. er... whatever movies and spinnoffs

We have enough problems with resident moderators. We don't need resident banninators as well. No thanks.

I noticed a lot of complaining about resident moderators but not any problems with them. Did I miss something?