Hey Linden Labs

This I find troubling. Antartica's kinda close to me. What if one of the clones breaks lose? My city's the first stop.

Put on a hazmat suit NOW! Those Venus people apparently carry Venereal disease...

Venus People? The people who make those pink razors for girls? Or are you talking about Bananarama?

P2

I'm just relieved they're not from Uranus. I hate to think what they have!

Heavily armed women in dark suits will be visiting your location shortly!

Dammit! Lucky boy!

bump

Ladies and gentlemen,

You can see from the above posts, how a few people who seem to have the Lindens ear operate.

They make jokes, they launch personal attacks and they make it sound like anyone who opposes them is on some looney conspiracy quest.

I think I make a very good point. A few people have the ear of the Lindens, and they seem to be able to get anything they want.

First they wanted to end the Bonus, then they wanted to end Developer Incentives, now they have destroyed Dwell. Next they want to destroy the pay we get each week, forgetting that the 50 or 500 lindens a week is what the Lindens said they would give us if we come to their world.

Now they want something else. And again, what they want will only benefit a small minority.

What I think the Lindens need to do is get back on the fence and take no position on anyones proposals. No help, no round table etc etc and on and on.

One issue is not as important as any other that are in these forums.

zomg reported to the star chamber for processing.

I think that's a lot to extrapolate from "bump", m'self.

I agree. One of them got p2p teleporting passed.

*cries in his kool-aid*

Okay, here we go again. His email is [email]philip@lindenlab.com[/email] and he's given it out at every town hall he's ever done!


Sources please? While most of us supported removing the gaming of welfare systems in SL, I don't think anyone who posted in this thread ever formally proposed or voted for any of these things. Stop telling untruths, or at least provide some sources where someone who posted on this thread proposed or voted for the things you list above.


Small minority? Oh, I forgot, if it doesn't benefit Magnum's ability to stalk people, then its a "small minority." If it benefits Magnum's ability to stalk people, then its the "silent majority." Jeez, you're predictable.

Oh, and by the way, there IS a publically announced community roundtable meeting tonight...and a discussion mailing list you can join, that you've CHOSEN not to be a part of.

http://secondlife.com/community/mailinglists.php

Oh, but wait, it must be an elitist group if anyone from Second Life can join it simply by perusing the web site.

-Flip

People don't take you seriously because you do not portray yourself seriously. Whether you intend to or not you come across as a cry baby conspiracy theorist claiming to be undermined by some shadowy power elite. You have been consistent in everything you say and do on the forums.

Think about it, if Power Elite really were THAT powerful they would have pulled the usual Linden strings and had you banned from the forums long ago. Yet, somehow you are still here posting freely and living out your Second Life. How powerful can the power elite be if they can't just make you disappear into the pixelated Pine Barons so to speak? This is not a threat by any means, so please don't take it as such. I'm just pointing out the lack of "truthyness" in your assumption that some of us get unlimited support from the Lindens.

Opinion:I did not support the removal of dwell or the Developer's Incentives. The only thing I supported was the removal of the ratings bonuses, because they had an inequity built into them in perpetuity.

I'm not sure who "most of us" are - whether you meant most of those who have responded in this thread so far, or most of the people on the forums (in which case, you would need to look again at the various polls on these topics), or most of the people in the game (which I highly doubt), or some other group you have in mind. But definitely, I'm not in that group.

Mostly, though, I would like object to the use of the words "gaming" and "welfare" in your portrayal of the legitimate uses of legal aspects of SL as "the gaming of welfare systems." Dwell doesn't, in my opinion, represent a "welfare system" whatsoever, for many reasons. Indeed, none of these things represented or represent a welfare system of any kind. The use of that word is a biased and loaded misnomer.

I would be hugely against the removal of stipends, as well as any characterization of them as some sort of "welfare system."

coco

Well I read the above posts and I don't see any evidence, other than your unsupported allegations, that anyone has the "Linden Ear."

Although I see several jokes, amongst them the original posting, I don't see a single personal attack, but rather a response to your broadly libelous statements.

Linden Lab will never be "on the fence" as you describe it because they have a vested interest in seeing projects that they think are important to SL go forward. Those projects will gain their support, ones they don't feel aren't important, or at least not a priority will not. Linden Lab is a corporation, not a government, nor a club.

Of course not everyone gamed the dwell and ratings systems bonuses, but it was ruined by those who abused it for profit and therefore taken away since it couldn't be controlled. LL can't keep giving out handouts and expect to stay afloat forever.

My $50L stippend I get everyweek is so irrelevant I haven't even noticed it. Even before the ratings bonus was taken away it was maybe $300L at best. Granted over the course of a year that culminates in $2600L. That won't make or break me any step of the way.

Opinion and Commentary:

So - you are saying there IS a power elite? Who, if they were really all-powerful, would have had Magnum banned?

Interesting.

So, you believe that Magnum comes off as a "cry baby conspiracy theorist," and that, moreover, the Power Elite thinks so?

Moreover, you believe that this view - which you and others share and which the Power Elite supposedly has - is so widely-accepted and is such a self-evident truth that you feel entitled to state it as fact on these forums?

Basically stating it on behalf of everyone?

That is not only marginalizing this poster, in highly personal and insulting terms; it is speaking for others for whom you have no right to speak.

coco

The only opinions that matter in the end are Phillip Rosedale's and the employees of Linden Labs.

Commentary:

There is an increasing and disturbing trend on the forums lately, to refer to any opinion one doesn't like as "libelous."

coco

Coco. I am saying that if the "power elite" were that conspiratorial and had the Lindens by the balls as Magnum often claims them then yes IN THEORY they could use said power to have him banned since they are all powerful and get what they want anyways. Yet, Magnum is still here and I can only assume that this "power elite" as it were really aren't all that powerful. Thus disproving the original statement of the minority getting what they want.

What I said was theoretical to prove the point that most of the allegations are unfounded. I was even so bold as to say THIS IS NOT A THREAT> I guess reading comprehension isn't your thing.

Or that they haven't done it because they know that, if they did, it would provide evidence of their existance and power?

LMAO. Imagine if all of the purported Power Elite, FIC, SIC, Star Chamber "members" got together and signed a petition and sent it to Linden Labs requesting the bannination of XYZ person it would probably be laughed at not taken seriously. While the Lindens might humor us by working on projects and taking resident advice - it will always be abundatly clear that we don't own them in the ways that some of the conspiracy theorists think that we do.

I wish this forum an easy way to do nested quotes.

In simple words, Jennyfur is saying there is no "Power Elite" and Magnum's continued posting is evidence of it.

The original poster is adept at marginalizing himself by continually blaming everything that he doesn't care for on some sort of "star chamber" rather on Linden Lab.

Thanks for the translation Surreal. I was beginning to think that I was speaking some ancient Antarctican subdialect.

I must remember to use simple words for simple people

No. Accusing someone of RL crimes like sexual harrassment are sometimes referred to as "libelous".

Stating an opinion about someone else's opinion, is an opinion. You know - like, "Coco is a busybody who rails about freedom of speech out of one side of her mouth for herself, her friends, or someone she feels is being picked on, but then trys to quash freedom of speech for others, whose opinions she finds personally distasteful."

Sorry to break it to you , but you don't get to say who can say what and when they can say it. "Freedom of speech" is a double edged sword, and you'd best realize it sooner than later.

Thanks for letting us know that you're making "commentaries" - we wouldn't have known otherwise.