Why 90% of the weapons in sl look and feel like sh*t ?
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Kyrah Abattoir
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06-02-2006 15:51
hell i remember back in time there was the seburo, wich was the first full featured gun in sl, these days i saw hiro's colts and anisa's jahi tha look like polished works.
For the rest, untextured shiny half done jobs, wasted prims (oh yeah but do you really need 50 prims to make the butt of your rifle?) countless number of orbiter weapons (wich by the way the use is forbidden, don't you know?), tousand of bombs doing exactly the same thing (aka push griefing),a gazillon of guns so poorly scripted they drain more sim resources than 10 AO, is mediocrity the new seal of quality ?. Crappy badly shaped pistols and rifles. Where are gone the creative, the artists, is te gun market dominated by lazy amateurs that are more after a quick buck done on a crappy job than the pride of making something nice?
I want to know, itsnot because mediocrity is today's a standard that you have to roll yourself into it.
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Burke Prefect
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06-02-2006 15:58
Well, alot of weapon makers also use cheap recycled scripts. But it's SL, if you don't like it, make your own and quit yer bitchin' 
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Kyrah Abattoir
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06-02-2006 16:01
i a not bitching i am stating a fact, maybe it would motivate "some" to change their behavior, who know, i know humans are stupid by a great majority but still
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Burke Prefect
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06-02-2006 16:05
 Okay, okay. I have the same complaint about builders, too. You can lead a horse to water...
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Phedre Aquitaine
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06-02-2006 16:05
I built an attractive gun. I just wish I could script worth a damn so it was worth anything.
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Richie Waves
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06-02-2006 16:36
I tried making a gun.. it looked crap. I accepted its something I wont get good at.. I moved on..
usually thats what people do..
as far as guns are concerned to me.. Tyrant is king.. suberos are laggy beyond use.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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06-02-2006 16:37
From: Kyrah Abattoir oh yeah but do you really need 50 prims to make the butt of your rifle? If I use a prim, I need the prim. And vis versa. From: Kyrah Abattoir Crappy badly shaped pistols and rifles. Make up your mind.
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Kyrah Abattoir
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06-02-2006 16:55
could you be more constructive?
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Reitsuki Kojima
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06-02-2006 16:59
From: Kyrah Abattoir could you be more constructive? You say this in a thread that was nothing but browbeating and criticising people who don't make weapons that exactly fit your desires?
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Kyrah Abattoir
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06-02-2006 17:37
not my desire, still make a shit job
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Fury Harbinger
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06-02-2006 17:45
Being a total gunbunny, I hear you Kyrah. Most of the guns out there are crap! The best ones I've found are made by Ezequal Torgeson. And my favs are my custom made Berettas with the nickel plated barrels and extended magazines. Thank you EZ!!!
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Gabe Lippmann
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06-02-2006 18:15
I dig the dueling pistols by Ordinal.
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Soleil Mirabeau
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06-02-2006 18:36
I want a sexy gun.
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Susie Boffin
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06-02-2006 18:37
Mainly because 90% of us aren't in here to play with guns. Just in case no one noticed, SL isn't a first person shooter or RPG. 
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Kyrah Abattoir
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06-02-2006 18:43
Susie the fact you think sl isn't a shooting games do not matter in this thread Anyway, trust me it will very soon change...
NEXT
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Susie Boffin
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06-02-2006 18:46
From: Kyrah Abattoir Susie the fact you think sl isn't a shooting games do not matter in this thread Anyway, trust me it will very soon change...
NEXT 
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Baba Yamamoto
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06-02-2006 18:49
BURN! Ouch Susie ;0 Are you alrght? How will your self esteem ever recover? ;0
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Susie Boffin
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06-02-2006 18:56
From: Baba Yamamoto BURN! Ouch Susie ;0 Are you alrght? How will your self esteem ever recover? ;0 Did I just get PWNed or what? *shakes head in shock*
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Vares Solvang
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06-02-2006 18:58
You have obviously never seen the weapons made by Kyran Nyak. His guns are works of art. They also have tons of fun features that you don't find on other weapons. Such as the Harbinger, which will trap your target in an outhouse that will fly into the air leaving a stream of...uhm...brown matter...if your target chooses to sit down on it. Kyran's guns do much more than just kill, many have non leathal features that are funny as hell. I love his work and recomend it to everyone. He's also a talanted artist as well, ask him to show you his art sometime. If he's in a good mood you are in for a treat! 
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Kyrah Abattoir
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06-02-2006 19:10
i know kyran, we are a lot of time together, also we build a few prototype together, i know he is an awesome gun maker, one more drop of quality in an ocean of crap
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Hiro Pendragon
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06-02-2006 19:27
Ah, this thread makes me want to rush my next upgrades. Sooooo busy, so many projects, so little time. 
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Bizzy Weeks
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06-02-2006 19:31
Im not really sure what the point of this thread is, besides to butcher the king's english and compile bad punctuation.
I've seen ALOT of horrible items in every category. I've seen great guns, but since im not here to play SL Quake, mostly just admire my friend's guns.
What excactly do you expect from a GAME? 98% of SL isnt trying to reinact Saving Private Ryan and damage fights are amazingly lame. So what are doing besides, judging from your words, trying to promote yours/friends/associates guns/scripts.
If not, find a more constructive way to stimulate the Gun making market, besides 'U R lIkE tEh SuK' to everyone new trying their hand at creating items.
Thank you, NEXT
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Kyrah Abattoir
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06-02-2006 19:45
first for the punctuation i d what i can i am NOT english, thanks for pointing the less relevant detail in this thread
second i never said anything about realist weapons i never said realist, where do you see somewhere in this topic where i said realist? STOP twisting my words and trye to pretend i wrote stuffs that i obviously didn't!
I said QUALITY items, wich mean:
-you spent more than 5 minutes to texture this weapon you dare to price over 50L$
-you have tried (i said tried) not to waste hundred of little cubes (~100) to make the curve you wanted instead of using a hollowed cylinder (~1) , this way maybe peoples will be able to get more than 2fps as soon as more than one person is carrying one in your field of view (of course this apply to all attachments, not just guns)
-you took the time to write a proper script for it instead of slapping the coolest free script you found and as improvement pasted a couple of llSetDammage(99999999); in it
-you took time to make something a LITTLE different of what every others are doing (this way peoples won't just buy it cause it's cheap, but maybe because it has other qualities)
also i happend to have one or two friends that are good gun builders, it is totally out of topic so stop deviating
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Cottonteil Muromachi
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06-02-2006 20:59
Surrender monkeys don't need guns.
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Harlequin Salome
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06-03-2006 12:18
This is another oe of my rambling, longinded posts, so feel free to just skip it. =)
Its because people hink that just beause a weapon is basically shaped like a gun, and shoots a ig yellow prim, its good enough... lord knows I've seen more than my fair share of crappy guns. Most pople seem to just slap out a pic of a gun, get resonably close to the shape, color it black, and call it a day.
I watched Anisa build the Jahi, and she put *alot* of effort into it. I've seen people build guns in under an hour and take great pride in it, despite the fact that it looked like crap, because "Now I've made aa bunch of guns!" In contrast, Anisa didn't just copy something. She built a concept from her head, and took days and days of work, and input. The last is the key, I think. She brought in me and a few others and constantly took our input and suggestions, and didn't work in a vaccum, and thus came out with a good piece. Also, as I said, she made it from her mind.
I honestly think that the perponedrance (I spelled that wrong, I know it) of "real life" guns. The best weapons in SL, modelwise and scriptwise, are creative and unique.
My weapons aren't great, since I'm only a half-way decent builder, ut I still get a good reaction to my .50 caliber revolvers because they're personal builds, and unique.
But then again, I'm sick of bling .45's, G36s, crappy P90's, and so on, and of OMGWTFSUPERGUNS with like, 50 different bullets.
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