ONE (1) SL wiki

My point is context, Catherine. Again, by having all info in a single wiki, there would be no need to have to go to another wiki and weed through duplicate info. MediaWiki namespaces, and other things Baba mentioned, would seem to be able to support multiple themes (general, LSL, history, ideas, etc) yet keep them separated enough to appease specific topic desirers such as yourself, while allowing ALL info about a single topic be presented easily, efficiently, and completely.

Wiki is inherantly democratic. If an important decision, like the merger you suggest, were to be implemented without the consent of the majority, you'd piss off the people who make the wiki worthwhile: the people who post and decide the wiki's content, that majority.

Democracy's alleged inefficiancies aside, it would indeed be better to listen to the opinions expressed in this thread and to take into account how many support and how many oppose your proposal.
==Chris

Well, that's why I'm "lobbying" for a single, unified wiki, Chris. I just don't think the naysayers have a good enough understanding of the benefits of a single SL wiki. I have rebutted EACH criticism--and now Baba and others have shown ways in which the single wiki could be laid out to allow each section (general, LSL, history, ideas, etc) to be separate yet easily linkable/searchable and not having redundant info. What's the problem? I have yet to hear any criticisms against this idea so let's go for it already!

I would rather not have to recreate (copy) all existing content to yet another wiki when a perfectly good one exists as the SL History Wiki. Unfortunately, Oz and Eggy don't share my enthusiasm about a single wiki and still want to keep things historical-based. I would be going nuts on LL's wiki but its software is just too damn annoying to use and just plain sucks ass compared to MediaWiki or even WakkaWiki. But, clearly, MediaWiki is the software to use at this time and I think if LL would adopt it as their wiki software, I could then proceed and create the SL wiki with content from all 3 main wikis at this time--with or without anyone else's help. I'm determined this is THE best approach for an SL wiki at this time.

Again, what are your criticisms, people?? Please read preview replies before posting them to make sure they aren't duplicated.

While it is abundantly clear that your right and the rest of us are "stupid and inefficient".

1. If it ain't broke don't fix it the LSL wiki does its job and does it well. I don't want to scroll down the page to the LSL stuff I want just LSL as it is.

2. You aren't lobbying, you're insulting your not gonna win a single vote that way.

3. Reading this thread I think the "wikitator" or atleast the desired wikitator is you.

4. If LL listens to you and craps up the LSL wiki with general SL info and history I will switch to Catherine's wiki assuming she goes through with it and resumes hosting a dedicated wiki.

5. You are interested in all the wiki's the people you are fighting with are focused on a single wiki. We don't have the complications you have. Everything we want is right there and only what we want. Why would we want to change that?

Eep if -you- want a single unified wiki go to www.johncompanies.com or any other hosting service and PAY for your OWN site. Set up a wiki. And go ahead and take the time to make a COPY of all the current wiki's in a single happy place. Then YOU can maintain YOUR wiki. And if you get a small following they can help you.

But leave the rest of the COMMUNITY'S wiki's alone and dont screw with something we are perfectly happy with and PREFER over your method. There is nothing WRONG about having them seperate. Not one thing. Your idea doesnt fix a flaw. It doesnt improve a weakness. The only thing it does is make it 'different' because you have a 'preference' to what you think the Golden Path is.

Speaking of which everyone hates lobbyist. They're in the same boat as paparotzi (sp) lawyers and politicians.

No, it doesn't. The LSL Wiki's software is outdated and badly needs updating. Learn about namespaces to see you won't have to scroll down. Plus, ever heard of anchors? They're amazing pieces of HTML marvel that allow clicking to directly get to a specific part of a page. Wow.

I insult those who exhibit stupidity beyond reason.

Hardly. I'm not forcing my views on anyone but so far I have yet to see a decent rebuttal to ANY of my arguments on this matter.

Good riddance then. But, again, your lack of imagination is showing, Jon. Nowhere have I suggested the LSL Wiki be "crapped up" with general SL info and history. Such information would simply contribute to the overall knowledge of a topic. MediaWiki namespaces allow all of this to be separated, as has already been explained by Baba. Read ALL replies before replying next time.

If you can't already figure out why, you're an idiot, Jon. I've already given NUMEROUS benefits of a single SL wiki. Read past replies to learn about them.

I've already given reasons for why a single SL wiki would be beneficial, Seronis. If you're too clueless to understand them, oh well. Read past replies to get a clue. I tire of repeating myself to brick walls like you and Jon.

I did read all the replies and I'm reporting this post as abuse. People not agreeing with you doesn't make them stupid or idiots.

Get a grip, you are talking about a fucking wiki. There is no need to be so abusive to people who disagree with you.

There is if your life would be otherwise empty, Anito.

Let's try to show some compassion for those less fortunate.

He's been abusive to people that disagree with him for nearly a decade now, looking back at Usenet archives; I think he's basically beyond help now

Again, as I've stated above (I wish people would learn to read), abuse is deserved when people refuse to see reason.

My life is quite full, Enabran. I simply want to make it easier to add info about SL without having to worry about duplicating it in another context elsewhere. What do YOU do for the SL community besides crack stupid jokes about others, hmm? You're a troll.

Was that what your daddy did to you, when you refused his reasons?

Nope. It's something I've aquired with experience with stupid people who just want to cause trouble. <shrug>

I don't think abuse is deserved.. Nobody seems to like you very much, but that should not drive them to name calling ;0 Neither should you act out in this manner.

I know you're frustrated by what you see as a lack of understanding. Trust me, we understand what you want, we simply disagree as to the scope of your vision for these specific wikis. Perhaps you could bein your own wiki where you define the goals of the project.

Wiki sofware was designed with the idea of shared open development, but that's not always how it is used. You don't run the sites hosting those wikis, and so are not entitled to define their purpose. Someone who attempts to inform you of the purpose of the wiki which they are in charge is not a wikitator.. They are simply in charge.

When you are in charge of your own wiki you may direct the project as YOU see fit.

Hmm, I think we can all guess the material that has filled it.


Torley Linden:
I've closed this thread on the grounds that it's ceased to be productive due to temper flaring out of control and leading to personal attacks. Which are absolutely not allowed here.
We've been down this road before--sadly, the good of this thread has been sullied by the inflammatory comments within, which've basically derailed it internally.

And abuse is never deserved.

That's why it's abuse.