Sinister racism creeping into SL...
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Sparky Widget
Unsympathetic Bastard
Join date: 10 Mar 2006
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05-02-2006 16:49
From: Ketra Saarinen REally? That's good to know, thank you.  It's funny actually, I made it through about 90% of the posts before making my reply, then went back and saw the *next* post after the one I stopped at mentioned SHARPs (Forgot that was the term). Made me feel silly. I'll say this though, if other SHARPs are like my friend, there aren't many that I would rather have at my back. No sweat...but keep in mind, non- or anti-racist skins are not all SHARPs. Being a SHARP is a very specific subset of skinheads, and they tend to be pretty political. In the worst cases, SHARPs can be just as radical as boneheads. That being said, I'll hang out with a SHARP without much thought, and if they get radical I'll just ignore 'em. Boneheads, I won't have anything to do with. Skinhead isn't about politics, never has been. SHARP is a political group within the skinhead community. S |
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kaia Ennui
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Join date: 30 Apr 2005
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05-02-2006 23:11
From: Ordinal Malaprop "Oi" is just a general exclamation, at least here in London. I'm not sure what the technical term for the role it plays is, but it's used when addressing someone - "oi, mate, got the time?" - like "hey". It's not particularly polite but it's not rude either.
There wasn't a band called "Oi", there was a style of music called "Oi", which apparently was taken from the song by the Cockney Rejects called "Oi! Oi! Oi!". There's nothing racist about the style either. The problem was that it was also latched onto by racist skins and got a bad reputation in the media because of it.
If someone is selling Skrewdriver t-shirts, that's one thing, but you absolutely cannot assume that the mere style of shaved head, big boots, loud fast stupid punk is racist, and the word "oi" is not racist in the slightest. ditto. Oi for england, Ordinal! Feri sells the boots and is a friend of mine. I assure you he is not a racist but he definitely is a punk. His shop specializing in punk clothing and boots and such. I was a NYC punk and lived in london on several occasions. What Ordinal described is how i know the word is used in the UK and I'm familiar with the style of music. It is used in the US among punks also to say hi. (ie: oi, how's it going?) It has nothing to do with hate. I wouldn't have his vendors in my store if that weren't crystal clear to me.
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Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
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05-02-2006 23:16
From: Luciftias Neurocam Doc Martens may have been good for many things, but they never managed to improve my mile times much.
But how many ex-punks wore Nike Waffles besides me? They had good grip The strap between your legs could be more problematic, however. |
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Noh Rinkitink
Just some Nohbody
Join date: 31 Jan 2006
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05-03-2006 06:16
From: Vares Solvang As a left wing, bleeding heart liberal, I would expect to be put on that list by someone within a day.  |
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Renee Ingmann
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Join date: 18 Oct 2005
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05-03-2006 16:53
Can we please make a distinction between Skins and punks... Skins are racist pigs, while Punks are rebels who hate the establishment but are NOT racist LOL and I say Oi Ve all the time LMAO I have Jewish in me somewhere I also like to kevetch LOL (spelling is wrong yeah I know)
But PLEASE can we have the distinction LMAO
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Sparky Widget
Unsympathetic Bastard
Join date: 10 Mar 2006
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05-03-2006 17:34
From: Renee Ingmann Can we please make a distinction between Skins and punks... Skins are racist pigs, while Punks are rebels who hate the establishment but are NOT racist LOL and I say Oi Ve all the time LMAO I have Jewish in me somewhere I also like to kevetch LOL (spelling is wrong yeah I know)
But PLEASE can we have the distinction LMAO I suppose you haven't been paying much attention. We *have* been making a distinction, only the one we've been making is the *correct* one. Not the asshat one you're trying to make. Either that, or you have been paying attention and you're just an idiot. Equally possible I suppose. S |
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Aleksander Marx
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Join date: 24 Apr 2006
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05-03-2006 17:36
From: Renee Ingmann Can we please make a distinction between Skins and punks... Skins are racist pigs, while Punks are rebels who hate the establishment but are NOT racist LOL and I say Oi Ve all the time LMAO I have Jewish in me somewhere I also like to kevetch LOL (spelling is wrong yeah I know)
But PLEASE can we have the distinction LMAO Did you read any of the previous posts on this page?? If you did you would realize that being a traditional skin has nothing to do with race or religion, there are also SHARPs (Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice) they politically motivated subset. And then there are some who are racists, but they simply adopted the look later on and they are a small minority among skins who are idoits. You should make the distinction! Since people don't like being labled something they aren't, espically something so serious as being racist. While I'm not a skin, I used to know quite a few some traditional and some SHARPs. |
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Vares Solvang
It's all Relative
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05-03-2006 20:24
From: Noh Rinkitink *lists Vares Solvang* What do you know, took more than a day! |
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Noh Rinkitink
Just some Nohbody
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05-04-2006 04:01
From: Vares Solvang What do you know, took more than a day! Technically, it was within 24 hours of your post.  |
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Sansarya Caligari
BLEH!
Join date: 25 Apr 2005
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05-04-2006 04:28
From: Vares Solvang This was the part that made my blood run cold, and everyone seems to be overlooking the implications of this comment.
Can you say witch hunt?
Don't like the way someone looks? Put em on the list. Don't like what someone just said? Put em on the list. Don't like the house someone built on their property? Put em on the list. Don't like the way someone just looked at you? Put em on the list. Don't like......ect
As a left wing, bleeding heart liberal, I would expect to be put on that list by someone within a day. Don't you know yet? Race does not exist in Second Life. How dare you think raceis an issue in Second Life! Race is only an issue for those of a minority culture, who are the REAL racists, as we all know  (believe me, no longer worth fighting this. This has been established.) |
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Vares Solvang
It's all Relative
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05-04-2006 17:48
From: Sansarya Caligari Don't you know yet? Race does not exist in Second Life. How dare you think raceis an issue in Second Life! Race is only an issue for those of a minority culture, who are the REAL racists, as we all know (believe me, no longer worth fighting this. This has been established.) Ok, just did a quick scan of those threads.....wow.... that's it, just wow |
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Reitsuki Kojima
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05-04-2006 17:54
Nice way of misrepresenting what I said. I stand by what I said - not, however, what you imply I said.
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