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whos bright idea was it too ban people without payment status?

VolatileWhimsy Bu
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08-04-2006 12:54
heck i say ban all verifieds!!!

wait no im a verified.. ban everyone else but me!!!
Ryla Twilight
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08-04-2006 12:55
I'm going to agree with Taco too.. spelling is atrocious. :D How can you go back and edit your initial post for spell-checking purposes, and (not even counting grammatical things like incorrect capitalization and period spacing) still leave 13 spelling errors in just 1 paragraph?

Sorry, I don't mean to rag on you.. I just had to get that out because things like that really distract me from reading the point you are trying to make. I don't think banning based on account type is a very nice thing, however if that land owner has had repeated bad experiences from unverified griefers, I can understand their actions if those griefers are impeding their business.
Soleil Mirabeau
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08-04-2006 12:57
From: Beaver Cheevers
Yup, and I was told to always listen to everything Pandastrong said!!!


horrible advice.
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Jaynie Kennedy
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he he
08-04-2006 13:38
From: Devlin Gallant
Maybe if you figure a way to keep griefers from entering SL you would have a reason to complain. Till then you will have to deal with it. Personally I think everyone should ban the unregistered as a protest to LL on the griefer issue. Then when folks stop signing up for SL as unregistered, and the number of new accounts starts dropping thus threatening that magic number of accounts LL is seeking...maybe THEN they will do something REAL to address the griefer issue instead of all these small easily over come fixes. (Gasps for breath). :mad:

so you would totally support let's say if i opened a club and banned the verified would be my perogative,yeah like the club would make it too the top 10,Just because a person isnt verified doesnt mean he or she is a griefer,or a child,and if your having griefer issues that badly,then i suggest not being rude arrogant or ignorant to the new people who join the game,freebies are all over weapon s included hell i can log onto sl exchange and dig out a box of free weapons,personally,with land tiers and everything else you get charged for kinda makes it hard to want to be verified i m verified go ahead check it it still doesn't make it right to ban those who arent and if everyone starts to ban the unverified who the hell will they have left to shop or come to there clubs?
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Pol Tabla
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08-04-2006 13:40
From: Soleil Mirabeau
horrible advice.
By "horrible" do you mean "awesome?"
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Charlene Trudeau
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08-04-2006 14:38
You're always welcome at Pando Square mall. I refuse to discriminate based on something as broad brush as the unverified status even if I have to stand in my mall all day long and deal with griefers, which I don't.

Char
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Karsten Rutledge
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08-04-2006 14:44
From: Jack Harker
I think that SL should start warning people up front that if they don't provide credit card verification theat there are going to be parts of SL that they won't be able to visit.

A lot of people seem to get caught by surprise by this and while I support people's right to ban based on this, it's not fair that people come into SL and only later get told, "Oh, can't go there, should have used your credit card details when you signed up."


It's not as if they're stuck as unverifieds forever, it takes like 30 seconds to change your status to 'On File' without paying a dime. So far I've yet to hear a legitimate reason for refusing to do this, other than just wanting to be controversial on purpose. I agree it sucks for people (international) who don't have that option, but in their case I'd think it better to be able to connect to SL regardless of whether there are asshats in it, than not at all.
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Taco Rubio
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08-04-2006 14:46
From: Karsten Rutledge
It's not as if they're stuck as unverifieds forever, it takes like 30 seconds to change your status to 'On File' without paying a dime. So far I've yet to hear a legitimate reason for refusing to do this, other than just wanting to be controversial on purpose. I agree it sucks for people (international) who don't have that option, but in their case I'd think it better to be able to connect to SL regardless of whether there are asshats in it, than not at all.


is "I'm an asshat griefer" a legitmate reason? :confused:
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Devlin Gallant
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08-04-2006 15:26
From: Jaynie Kennedy
so you would totally support let's say if i opened a club and banned the verified would be my perogative,yeah like the club would make it too the top 10,Just because a person isnt verified doesnt mean he or she is a griefer,or a child,and if your having griefer issues that badly,then i suggest not being rude arrogant or ignorant to the new people who join the game,freebies are all over weapon s included hell i can log onto sl exchange and dig out a box of free weapons,personally,with land tiers and everything else you get charged for kinda makes it hard to want to be verified i m verified go ahead check it it still doesn't make it right to ban those who arent and if everyone starts to ban the unverified who the hell will they have left to shop or come to there clubs?


The point is to get LL to DO MORE about the griefers. If you wanna ban verifieds feel free.
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Lucky Merit
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08-04-2006 16:18
From: Cindy Claveau
That's a myth.

It doesn't get sloppy until 4th or 5ths.


One of the crudest things I've read on a message board. Ever.:eek:

PS: Loved it!! I LOLed. :D
Angelique LaFollette
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08-04-2006 19:03
I said it Before,
Unverified accounts STILL Earn, and spend Money.
Ban them from your mall and you are Attacking your Customer Base, Not only will you Not get their Money, you may also Lose Business from people (Like me) who wouldn't think of shopping anyplace that practices baseless Discrimination in any form (And since i don't really Horde money as a Rule, i spend a Lot of it.)

Unverified doesn't Automaticly mean Griefer.

Angel.
Einsman Schlegel
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08-04-2006 19:13
No they don't, but they put the sellers of certain objects/services at risk.
Buxton Malaprop
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08-04-2006 20:48
Am I right in thinking there's a new script call (either now live, or due very shortly) for finding out the "payment-status-required"-ness of the current Parcel of land?

If so, I could (or any half-able scripter, really) probably throw together a little "prejudice-monitor" HUD widget to save people who care about such things but might already be "Verified" the bother of having to check into About Land for every place they visit.
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Merlyn Bailly
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08-05-2006 00:48
From: Crimson Benford
who's bright idea was it too ban people without payment status?when you place an ad and its in the classifieds then you should put your prejiduce(spell check not sure)to people without payment staus on there file .UP Scale-Resale Second hand & yard Sale Store,for expamle ,is not letting people without payment status to this store which is in my oppion pretty sad,it's not like there isnt any other place i can spend my money lol but point is clarify it in your ad instead of getting snippy when asked why your not allowed to shop at there store .Have a great day!


I think it's pretty sad that someone this illiterate is allowed in SL.
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Allana Dion
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08-05-2006 01:19
From: Merlyn Bailly
I think it's pretty sad that someone this illiterate is allowed in SL.

Thats a bit harsh and hardly necessary really. If you want to correct someone's spelling or grammar go ahead but insults only make you look unpleasant.

As to the actual topic... There are a few adult items being sold in my mall and if I ran into someone I felt was clearly enough a minor, I would ban that person and tell them why. When I have had the occasional idjit/griefer/general dumbass, yes I've banned those people and on a couple of occasions the people associated with them.

But I can't imagine getting to a point where I would discriminate against everyone who doesn't have account info. I would not want to risk keeping out someone who is just genuinely new and looking around before committing.

I feel however that if you've been in SL for a couple of months already and you still haven't bothered to give some sort of account info (which doesn't mean becoming premium, I'm only basic too) then I don't really see a valid excuse for it UNLESS it is an alt account and you're willing to state that it is just an alt account. I have two alts, one with info and one without but both state the name of my main account in their profiles.

Yes I have heard the arguments that ID is more difficult in other countries, but given the amount of friends I have from all over the world who manage it, I do know it is doable.
I have heard the argument that people don't want to have to get a credit card, well that doesn't work either as there are other options. Claiming poverty doesn't work because: A) It isn't required that you actually pay anything to provide info and B) You somehow do manage to afford a fast enough internet connection.

That said, I won't be banning people based on their profiles, only on their behavior.
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Raudf Fox
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08-05-2006 05:35
I don't bother with the ban unverified, because roughly half the griefing I dealt with was avs done pre-06/06. I don't sell mature things.. yet.. So, nope, no reason to me.
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Ordinal Malaprop
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08-05-2006 05:53
From: Buxton Malaprop
Am I right in thinking there's a new script call (either now live, or due very shortly) for finding out the "payment-status-required"-ness of the current Parcel of land?

If so, I could (or any half-able scripter, really) probably throw together a little "prejudice-monitor" HUD widget to save people who care about such things but might already be "Verified" the bother of having to check into About Land for every place they visit.

No, I don't think there is - there is a function to return the payment status of an avatar, but banning unverifieds etc just shows up as "this parcel has a ban list" if you use llGetParcelFlags.
Inigo Chamerberlin
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08-05-2006 05:59
No, horrible as in 'this will end badly'
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08-05-2006 06:00
From: Pol Tabla
By "horrible" do you mean "awesome?"

No, horrible as in 'this will end badly'
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Selador Cellardoor
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08-05-2006 06:48
From: Merlyn Bailly
I think it's pretty sad that someone this illiterate is allowed in SL.


I think it's pretty sad that someone this arrogant is allowed in SL.
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08-05-2006 07:33
From: Merlyn Bailly
I think it's pretty sad that someone this illiterate is allowed in SL.


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Showdog Tiger
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08-05-2006 08:13
Dearly Darling Lord,

Will you please stop typing without your glasses. You are making me laugh so hard I'm going to cry--or pee.

It takes real talent to type one stoke off as fast as you do!

I'm glad SL lets in people like you with a truely original, wicked, scintilating sense of humor.

Ever Yours,

Mrs. Showdog Tiger
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Lucky Merit
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08-05-2006 13:34
From: Merlyn Bailly
I think it's pretty sad that someone this illiterate is allowed in SL.


Yeah, what she said. I don't even think they should be allowed in RL. Gawd.

/sarcasm

Did you even think a moment before you posted? *shakes head in disbelief*
Colette Meiji
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08-05-2006 19:04
From: Cindy Claveau
That's a myth.

It doesn't get sloppy until 4th or 5ths.


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crucial Armitage
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08-05-2006 19:29
what I find interesting is why so many people refuse to even put up CC info to verify there account. unless your living in a country that you can't use your CC with LL then there is no reason for you to have an unverified account.
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