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Crimson Benford
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Join date: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 9
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08-04-2006 11:04
who's bright idea was it too ban people without payment status?when you place an ad and its in the classifieds then you should put your prejiduce(spell check not sure)to people without payment staus on there file .UP Scale-Resale Second hand & yard Sale Store,for expamle ,is not letting people without payment status to this store which is in my oppion pretty sad,it's not like there isnt any other place i can spend my money lol but point is clarify it in your ad instead of getting snippy when asked why your not allowed to shop at there store .Have a great day!
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Jaycatt Nico
Musical Cat
Join date: 1 Jun 2005
Posts: 169
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08-04-2006 11:10
I've seen lots of signs in stores that say "We reserve the right to refuse service". How is this any different?
It's their store. They're the ones losing/making money by keeping people out. If they feel the reason is good enough to block the ones with no payment info on file, it's their business. Those people will find somewhere else to shop. Granted, it would be nice of them to post this in their ad, but you waste, what, 5 minutes to find it out by teleporting there? Doesn't seem like a big deal to me. |
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Taco Rubio
also quite creepy
Join date: 15 Feb 2004
Posts: 3,349
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08-04-2006 11:11
While your spelling is atrocious, you do make a really valid point ! I'd hate to plan to go to an event only to find I wasn't allowed in - people really should list that.
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Crimson Benford
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Join date: 14 Jun 2006
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well sure its there store
08-04-2006 11:14
but posting a classified not that i care because my money is good everywhere else lol,its the point to the owner being snippy well down right rude when asked and it isnt in the add point is clarify it not that i care anymore i just dislike rude people oh yeah and i hear its about griefers this idea was brought too everyone well whatever lol point is refer to top im not gonna explain this again lol
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Cindy Claveau
Gignowanasanafonicon
Join date: 16 May 2005
Posts: 2,008
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08-04-2006 11:14
What Jaycatt and Taco said (dammit, Taco, that's like 4 times today I've agreed with you, cut that shit out). Frankly, I can understand why some folks who sell adult content or run adult clubs might want to screen visitors like this. But regular business people, like a yard sale fergodsakes, are really only shooting themselves in the foot. Nobody else.
Take your $L somewhere else and spend it on people who don't ban unverifieds. EDIT: The unverified flag has never ever been about griefers. Of the dozens of griefers I've had to deal with since June, not even half were unverified newbies and I would almost guarantee you that those who were, were probably alts. How else can a day-old newb get money for c4 bombs and Star Wars armor? _____________________
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Taco Rubio
also quite creepy
Join date: 15 Feb 2004
Posts: 3,349
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08-04-2006 11:33
... Star Wars armor? I KNOW THAT GUY ![]() _____________________
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Six Kennedy
I make boxes - Lots of em
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 544
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08-04-2006 11:40
Totally agree with Cindy about agreeing with Taco but not totally agreeing with Cindy about agreeing with Jaycott
I think it is sucky to not include that info in a classified.. even if you dont list it in your property descript.. theres plenty of room for a comment like that in a classified.. how long does it take to add that line ? Much quicker than teleporting and rezzing !_____________________
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Beaver Cheevers
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Join date: 4 Aug 2006
Posts: 6
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08-04-2006 11:40
Seems odd to me that since the object of this game (excuse me, Platform lol) is greed you are not going to win by banning customers. With the object of the game being to get as many people as possible to by imaginary objects that are at the mercy of a borked asset system you need all the customers you can get.
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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,920
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08-04-2006 11:43
it wuz my brite idea sry
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Aodhan McDunnough
Gearhead
Join date: 29 Mar 2006
Posts: 1,518
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08-04-2006 11:48
For mature content I will agree that the unverfied filtering need not be stated.
But for an otherwise normal yard sale, that's silly. Makes me so glad my stuff is ok even for kids. Never will need to filter visitors. @Beaver Yep, official designation is platform. _____________________
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History Rust
Autonomous Paperweight
Join date: 25 May 2006
Posts: 99
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08-04-2006 11:51
Where's this yard sale again?
Every time I've been griefed (but one), it's been while shopping. |
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Taco Rubio
also quite creepy
Join date: 15 Feb 2004
Posts: 3,349
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08-04-2006 11:52
Seems odd to me that since the object of this game (excuse me, Platform lol) is greed you are not going to win by banning customers. With the object of the game being to get as many people as possible to by imaginary objects that are at the mercy of a borked asset system you need all the customers you can get. who said the object was greed? _____________________
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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,920
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08-04-2006 11:54
who said the object was greed? i did so sry so sry so sry _____________________
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Beaver Cheevers
Registered User
Join date: 4 Aug 2006
Posts: 6
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08-04-2006 11:58
Yup, and I was told to always listen to everything Pandastrong said!!!
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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08-04-2006 11:58
who's bright idea was it too ban people without payment status?when you place an ad and its in the classifieds then you should put your prejiduce(spell check not sure)to people without payment staus on there file .UP Scale-Resale Second hand & yard Sale Store,for expamle ,is not letting people without payment status to this store which is in my oppion pretty sad,it's not like there isnt any other place i can spend my money lol but point is clarify it in your ad instead of getting snippy when asked why your not allowed to shop at there store .Have a great day! No payment info used = possible child. If there is payment info and it is a child, the parent is legally responsible for not watching the child, versus the one who provided av sex to someone who was verified as an adult. |
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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08-04-2006 11:59
Seems odd to me that since the object of this game (excuse me, Platform lol) is greed you are not going to win by banning customers. With the object of the game being to get as many people as possible to by imaginary objects that are at the mercy of a borked asset system you need all the customers you can get. game/platform, fits definitions of both. Its a game to me by official definition. |
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Jesse Malthus
OMG HAX!
Join date: 21 Apr 2006
Posts: 649
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08-04-2006 12:09
I think the lindens should add somthing to the map, a data layer where it shows who's descriminating against who.
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Beaver Cheevers
Registered User
Join date: 4 Aug 2006
Posts: 6
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08-04-2006 12:12
Wow was unaware that they resold cartoon sex at a resale shop! It does bring new meaning to the term "Sloppy Seconds" doesn't it.
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Taco Rubio
also quite creepy
Join date: 15 Feb 2004
Posts: 3,349
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08-04-2006 12:26
I think the lindens should add somthing to the map, a data layer where it shows who's descriminating against who. so start compiling your own list, and get a boycott thing going. DIY man. _____________________
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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08-04-2006 12:31
I think the lindens should add somthing to the map, a data layer where it shows who's descriminating against who. Its not descrimination, its protection. |
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Cindy Claveau
Gignowanasanafonicon
Join date: 16 May 2005
Posts: 2,008
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08-04-2006 12:45
Wow was unaware that they resold cartoon sex at a resale shop! It does bring new meaning to the term "Sloppy Seconds" doesn't it. That's a myth. It doesn't get sloppy until 4th or 5ths. _____________________
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Jack Harker
Registered User
Join date: 4 May 2005
Posts: 552
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08-04-2006 12:45
I think that SL should start warning people up front that if they don't provide credit card verification theat there are going to be parts of SL that they won't be able to visit.
A lot of people seem to get caught by surprise by this and while I support people's right to ban based on this, it's not fair that people come into SL and only later get told, "Oh, can't go there, should have used your credit card details when you signed up." |
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katykiwi Moonflower
Esquirette
Join date: 5 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,489
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08-04-2006 12:51
Wow, I tell you, for a company that advocates "be the change," all I see are changes that add more controversy, frustration and divisiveness.
Why must we rely upon payment status, which is really distinguishing by a class designation, to ward off presumed griefers or minors. Isn't this type of generalization or stereotyping at the heart of discrimination. I feel very uncomfortable about relying upon a financial class/status distinction to weed out presumed "undesirables." If griefing is a problem, then let's have better tools and functions to address that, including more useful IP banning. If the presence of minors on the main grid is the problem, then address the account sign up process rather than giving us functions that permit discrimination according to financial status. Be the change.....? _____________________
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
Posts: 5,948
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08-04-2006 12:52
who's bright idea was it too ban people without payment status?when you place an ad and its in the classifieds then you should put your prejiduce(spell check not sure)to people without payment staus on there file .UP Scale-Resale Second hand & yard Sale Store,for expamle ,is not letting people without payment status to this store which is in my oppion pretty sad,it's not like there isnt any other place i can spend my money lol but point is clarify it in your ad instead of getting snippy when asked why your not allowed to shop at there store .Have a great day! Maybe if you figure a way to keep griefers from entering SL you would have a reason to complain. Till then you will have to deal with it. Personally I think everyone should ban the unregistered as a protest to LL on the griefer issue. Then when folks stop signing up for SL as unregistered, and the number of new accounts starts dropping thus threatening that magic number of accounts LL is seeking...maybe THEN they will do something REAL to address the griefer issue instead of all these small easily over come fixes. (Gasps for breath). ![]() _____________________
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Lupus Delacroix
Wyrm Raider
Join date: 3 May 2006
Posts: 695
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08-04-2006 12:52
That's a myth. It doesn't get sloppy until 4th or 5ths. It can on the 3rd, but it depends on the guys. |