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Burnman Bedlam
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07-20-2006 10:54
From: Willow Zander
There is no option for Fuckwits.

:mad:


And to whom would you be referring?
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Willow Zander
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07-20-2006 10:55
From: Burnman Bedlam
And to whom would you be referring?


:confused: Why the fuckwits of course!

(Really, I just wanted to necropost too!, I've already replied on page 1 and whined about pie!)
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-20-2006 10:56
From: FireFox Bancroft
Dark I know several Gorean furries. I don't participate in such activites but i do know it exists and some of my furry friends are slaves. Regardless of who wrote the fiction people have taken thier own spin on the "lifestyle".


When one person creates, another always draws inspiration from it. Gorean-styled furry D/s is an example of this. I still will not call 'gorean furries' by such a name. Gor is Gor, and Gor has no furries. While something can be inspired, if you insert furries into Gor, it becomes anything but the books written by John Lange (aka Norman).
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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07-20-2006 11:03
From: Burnman Bedlam
Interesting...

You see... here's the thing. If it looks like child porn, I don't give a flying @%!? what the motivation of the two adults is. People should have the sense enough to switch to adult av's if they want to get sexual, otherwise, there is a certain element of morbid mental sickness involved in what is happening.

Graphical representation of sexual children, real, virtual, or simulated, should be banned from SL immediately and without question. There is no good reason to tolerate it.

That's pretty much how I feel about it, and I seriously doubt anything will change my mind about it.


LOL, you are quite mistaken if for any reason you think I am trying to change your mind. I feel comfortable with your belief, because I simply don't care one way or another. What I AM attempting for you to do is to not being so abseloute and demanding that your opnion is the only correct one here.. Because that is all it is, an opnion..
Zoe Llewelyn
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07-20-2006 11:06
From: Jonas Pierterson
When one person creates, another always draws inspiration from it. Gorean-styled furry D/s is an example of this. I still will not call 'gorean furries' by such a name. Gor is Gor, and Gor has no furries. While something can be inspired, if you insert furries into Gor, it becomes anything but the books written by John Lange (aka Norman).


Yes, true, but all SL Gorean Roleplay is already as it is practiced other than Norman wrote of it in the books. It has already been changed, adapted and morphed into something new by the people practicing it. Several of them even admit it rather openly in the notecards they offer in the Scriptorium that describe and explain both Norman's Gor and SL Gor.

As example, in Norman's books, very few women are slaves in actuality. Slaves make up a tiny portion of the population. However, in SL, there are 20 slaves for every Master you can find.

Gor as written in Norman's books does not exist in SL. An inspired adaptation does. So, how does that differ from someone's inspired adaptaion that includes furries? It doesn't actually. They are both personal visions of Norman's world as adapted by those who run the sims to make a "fun" roleplay envirnment.

After all, who wants to roleplay a slave that works pumping belows at a forge when you can instead be a pleasure slave?
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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07-20-2006 11:09
And the first couple of books of his were ok, but the rest of them were kinda boring.. :(
Yes I read those.. now just to find furry books and age books.. hmmmm
Jonas Pierterson
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07-20-2006 11:11
From: VolatileWhimsy Bu
And the first couple of books of his were ok, but the rest of them were kinda boring.. :(
Yes I read those.. now just to find furry books and age books.. hmmmm


Lord knows you didn't read them for his writing style.

The first five books were ripped off of a series about a man on mars too..
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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07-20-2006 11:12
From: Jonas Pierterson
Lord knows you didn't read them for his writing style.

The first five books were ripped off of a series about a man on mars too..


oh really, was it any good?
Jonas Pierterson
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07-20-2006 11:13
From: Zoe Llewelyn
Yes, true, but all SL Gorean Roleplay is already as it is practiced other than Norman wrote of it in the books. It has already been changed, adapted and morphed into something new by the people practicing it. Several of them even admit it rather openly in the notecards they offer in the Scriptorium that describe and explain both Norman's Gor and SL Gor.

As example, in Norman's books, very few women are slaves in actuality. Slaves make up a tiny portion of the population. However, in SL, there are 20 slaves for every Master you can find.

Gor as written in Norman's books does not exist in SL. An inspired adaptation does. So, how does that differ from someone's inspired adaptaion that includes furries? It doesn't actually. They are both personal visions of Norman's world as adapted by those who run the sims to make a "fun" roleplay envirnment.

After all, who wants to roleplay a slave that works pumping belows at a forge when you can instead be a pleasure slave?


Thats fine. But I'll still never call it Gor if it includes furries. Because it isn't.
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-20-2006 11:14
From: VolatileWhimsy Bu
oh really, was it any good?


Never read them, too hard to find. I'm lucky to have many of the (original) paperbacks of the gor series. Reading through Kajira of Gor right now.
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Aldo Stern
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07-20-2006 17:14
From: Jonas Pierterson
Lord knows you didn't read them for his writing style.

The first five books were ripped off of a series about a man on mars too..


well, ripped off is one way of looking at it....Professor Norman would probably tell you that they were an "homage" to Edgar Rice Burroughs' Mars books which featured an earthman-- John Carter--traveling to the Red Planet for swords-and-sandals-in-space sorts of adventures.

There are also elements of socio-political commentary in the earlier books as well--you have to keep in mind he was writing in them in the 1960's and he was throwing out some different ideas to perhaps highlight (or contrast with) some of the absurdities of that era. Then after a while, as some critics say, he went "bat shit crazy." I kinda gave up on trying to read any of the later ones.
rain Bradley
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07-20-2006 22:50
From: Mulch Ennui
Think Hard, this is not multiple choice. Please explain why.

(chill, the poll will be up in a couple mins, lots of choices, and not a piece of pie)

No, Not a Pizza Pie Either!!!!


I voted griefing..if i wanted a house 80,000 meters above the sim i build one there...ive been to the moon so many times the lil man in the moon has two fillings in his back teeth....ty for letting me have my 2 L worth...can i have change now??

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Lori Nori
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07-21-2006 00:01
From: Kami Harbinger

Slavery and misogyny is bad enough--and that anyone admits to liking either in the 21st century is seriously disturbing. But emulating such a terrible writer... What the hell is wrong with you freaks? On the bright side, the Goreans will eventually die out, since Norman's books always lose money and he can't get published anymore. The free market takes a while to correct some problems, but it gets there in the end.


Well said, Kami! If only the goreans would die out :(
Yiffy Yaffle
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07-21-2006 00:28
Diversity! Leave people alone. ;p
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Achilles Antonelli
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07-21-2006 00:33
Age Play is without a shadow of a doubt, the single most repulsive thing to come out of SL.

Any simulation of sexual activity involving children should be discouraged in the strongest possible way. Whether the people behind the Avs are adults or not is irrelevant. It is a platform that allows these sick, sick individuals to play out their fantasies invloving children. I'm simply amazed at how many people seem to think that this is ok. Whichever way you look at it, it's wrong. Plain and simple.

I'm not calling for censorship as that would be bad for SL but something that has no place in any civilised society has no place in SL.

There's nothing wrong with having a child avatar per se, but as soon as you involve it in Age Play you have overstepped the mark because that is paedophilia. Having their accounts suspended should be the least of their worries.

/rant
Selador Cellardoor
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07-21-2006 03:09
From: Kami Harbinger

Slavery and misogyny is bad enough--and that anyone admits to liking either in the 21st century is seriously disturbing.


There is no misogyny in Gorean roleplay. You could argue that Norman himself was a misogynist, but that would be extrapolation. Certainly in the Gorean sims I have not actually heard any anti-female sentiments, whereas outside them I most certainly have.
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Selador Cellardoor
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07-21-2006 03:17
From: Burnman Bedlam

People who are interested in RPing kids having sex, probably fantasize about such things, and that should never be accepted.


Sounds as though you are in favour of thought-control. Scary.
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Pallmor Bergman
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07-21-2006 09:14
From: Magnum Serpentine

There is absolutly nothing wrong with being a Gorean.


Apparently, there are at least 14 people who would disagree.

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07-21-2006 09:18
From: Pallmor Bergman
Apparently, there are at least 14 people who would disagree.

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There are always 14 people who would disagree.
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Burnman Bedlam
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07-21-2006 09:19
I guess it all depends on whether or not people are comfortable with the concept of "playing rape". It sure as hell isn't my bag, I've read many of the books, and I personally don't understand how the hell anyone would want to actually "play" gor.

I guess it's like sexual age-play... why in the hell would anyone want to "pretend" to have sex with a kid?? It might not be actual exploitation of children... but it looks like it, and is representative of a deep seated mental defect.


From: Pallmor Bergman
Apparently, there are at least 14 people who would disagree.

-Pall
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VolatileWhimsy Bu
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07-21-2006 09:23
Out of all the threads so far I dislike this one the most..
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07-21-2006 09:25
From: Burnman Bedlam
I've read many of the books, and I personally don't understand how the hell anyone would want to actually "play" gor.
Well, I personally don't understand why anyone would want to "read many of the books" but I celebrate and defend your right to read this type of literature. I think the creativity and diversity on display in Second Life is beautiful, even if some of it "isn't my bag."

I say, let people have their fun until it encroaches on the rights of others. Then I will squish them under the heel my latex studded boot while dripping hot wax on their genitals.

My God I love Second Life!
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07-21-2006 09:28
/gasp
/covers eyes
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07-21-2006 09:35
From: VolatileWhimsy Bu
/gasp
/covers eyes
You know you like it Volatile :) *tilts candle ever so slightly*
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07-21-2006 09:37
hehe
im not admitting anythign on these boards.. lol ;)
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