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FlipperPA Peregrine
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04-03-2006 08:43
So, let's see, what can we discuss today?

-llGiveInventory bug
-ResMods Chapter 3,192
-Anti-Americanism
-Game vs Platform
-Permissions problems

I hope they get that llGiveInventory bug fixed soon. I think the ResMods are doing the best they can, but that the LL forums may have outlived their utility. Although I'm a dual citizen, I've noticed a lot of UK folks tend to lump all Americans together and stereotype Americans as a cross between a money-hungry Wall Street broker and a white trash Springer guest, taking the worst charactistics from each. (Only some UKers, of course, and I'm not talking about just in SL.) SL is a platform; I'll defend your right to treat it as a game if you wish, but get off your bloody high horse and stop insisting it MUST be a game for everyone, just because of your own myopic viewpoint. And finally... permissions problems suck.

Oh, and my latest observation about SL? It rocks.

That General enough? :)

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Jennyfur Peregrine
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Join date: 24 Dec 2003
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04-03-2006 08:54
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
So, let's see, what can we discuss today?

-llGiveInventory bug
-ResMods Chapter 3,192
-Anti-Americanism
-Game vs Platform
-Permissions problems

-Flip



1. What give inventory bug? Oh wait that one... the one that I get IMs about from people not receiving stuff they bought.

2. ResMods SmezMods. Bring back P-----Y N--A ( I did not name a name so NYAH) and let CHAOS reign supreme. All of this censorship is bollocks. If the forums are dead and dying lets throw them one hell of a wake. Grab your cricket bat and lets f$ck shite up! :D

3. I am an american and I hate most americans, but I like living here and being mostly free even if our government is populated by a bunch of feebs and chodes.

4. I say game, world, platform because it is all three. People who get upset by SL being called a game should get over it. If someone sees it as a game so be it! Its like trying to rationalize a concrete explanation of what art is. Its either everything or nothing. Otherwise its just a bunch of know-it alls pontificating on the merits of a toilet seat over the fricking Mona Lisa.

5. The permissions system sucks. The permission bugs doubly so. We've been bitching for TWO YEARS now and nothing has been done yet to really enhance the overall permission systems. Well at least people can't steal your textures anymore.

Regards,
Jennyfur
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Ranma Tardis
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04-03-2006 08:55
I think too many of the residents are "stuck up"!

They have an inflated value of themselves and think only of themselves.

Because of this there is no exploring, flying or driving watercraft. There is the risk of encountering those pesky security scripts and ruining your fun. I have started to use such a program but only against know griefers and my fellow residents that employ these programs.

It is a bit childish but I am a person too. What is good for the goose is good for the gander!
Merwan Marker
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04-03-2006 08:59
Fun - if SL is still fun, then coolness continues.

Don't let the stuck-ups get to ya Ranma.



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Jamie Bergman
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Join date: 17 Feb 2005
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04-03-2006 09:00
SL rocks.

That being said, there are a lot of crusties. You know, the people who have been here since pre-beta and all that bs. For whatever reason, they feel that they should have a say in SL's direction - some even seem to think Philip should call them to consult with them!!! LOLZ!

Once you factor out the crusties, SL rocks though!! The new people bring it life and vitality and don't give a flip about what some what some bitter oldbies think.

We're all equals.
Siobhan Taylor
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04-03-2006 09:02
From: Jamie Bergman
We're all equals.

Didn't expect to hear such a communist thing from you...
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Jamie Bergman
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04-03-2006 09:03
From: Siobhan Taylor
Didn't expect to hear such a communist thing from you...


As far as I'm aware, equality is not only a communistic ideal. Actually, its one of the cornerstones of our way of life (at least in the US). We're all presumed equal under the law :D
Jennyfur Peregrine
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04-03-2006 09:04
From: Jamie Bergman
SL rocks.

That being said, there are a lot of crusties. You know, the people who have been here since pre-beta and all that bs. For whatever reason, they feel that they should have a say in SL's direction - some even seem to think Philip should call them to consult with them!!! LOLZ!

Once you factor out the crusties, SL rocks though!! The new people bring it life and vitality and don't give a flip about what some what some bitter oldbies think.

We're all equals.


Without the crusty bitter oldbies we would not have SL as it is today... It hard to start somewhere with some group of early adopters/users otherwise there would be no SL. Your argument that "we are all equals" is fine well and dandy, but there is no need to piss on all of the people that were here early on.
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Jamie Bergman
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04-03-2006 09:04
From: Jennyfur Peregrine
Without the crusty bitter oldbies we would not have SL as it is today... It hard to start somewhere with some group of early adopters/users otherwise there would be no SL. Your argument that "we are all equals" is fine well and dandy, but there is no need to piss on all of the people that were here early on.


No, no... I didnt mean they are ALL like that. Just some of them.

My apologies to the non-crusty oldbies.
Siobhan Taylor
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04-03-2006 09:05
From: Jamie Bergman
As far as I'm aware, equality is not only a communistic ideal. Actually, its one of the cornerstones of our way of life (at least in the US). We're all presumed equal under the law :D
In theory yes, in practice, no. Ask eny member of an ethnic minority in the US.
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Troy Vogel
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04-03-2006 09:05
I would discuss the aforementioned topics but I have a feeling that it would close / move / dislocate this thread from the space/time continuum.

Troy
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04-03-2006 09:11
hmmmm lets see. Are we going to have a new form of money? Will we see a land crash? Hello Resmods. It's a game, it's not a game. Is it fun, informative, educational, enlightening, enriching your life? Wonder when the next stippend and dwell cuts will be. I don't care for having to figure out if a project is profitable. How will the history of SL really be written?

I would give more input but I don't dig cencorship.

Cat
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Karsten Rutledge
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04-03-2006 09:20
From: Ranma Tardis
I think too many of the residents are "stuck up"!

They have an inflated value of themselves and think only of themselves.

Because of this there is no exploring, flying or driving watercraft. There is the risk of encountering those pesky security scripts and ruining your fun. I have started to use such a program but only against know griefers and my fellow residents that employ these programs.

It is a bit childish but I am a person too. What is good for the goose is good for the gander!


Ugh, yeah. I've been trying to school my neighbor on why banlines and security scripts are stupid and useless, and also obnoxious and often damaging to avatars flying by, especially on sim borders. General bans == get the feck over yourself. I see I'm not quite done yet, though, as he just put up a 15 second general ban security orb.

In any case, that's why I prefer flying these days on the rare occasion I get out in a vehicle. On St. Patrick's day I painted a blimp bright green, slapped a giant shamrock on the side and harassed people all over the grid with it. I flew from Lusk to Mullet without encountering security scripts in the air. (rammed into a lot of skyboxes accidentally, though) I did, however, get my blimp wrecked two or three times on sim border crossings. :mad:
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04-03-2006 09:49
i love SL! It has problems yes, so what!
i have boated by river from one end of teh continant to teh other i have driven my new way kewl motorcycle across over half teh continant and i continue to see things that awe and inspire me! i try to explore for at least 3 hours a week, so se eteh magic that is out there, i took part in a event to show teh live webcast of teh Total Solar eclipse from Turkey last week and shared the incredible experience with about 20 people at the venue i was at would any of us watched it if not for SL? i know i wouldn't have. i have had 300 peopel visit my clown nose photo exhibit in the last 2 weeks proving to me peopel will go see things that do not pay them which gives me hope.
This is what SL can do and what it means to me
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04-03-2006 09:55
From: Troy Vogel
I would discuss the aforementioned topics but I have a feeling that it would close / move / dislocate this thread from the space/time continuum.

Troy


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Oh, what does this button do?

*KABLOOEY*

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Ranma Tardis
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04-03-2006 10:01
My land is on a private island where I rent. It is ok for the person next to me to use a security script for "privacy" but they get upset when I returned the favor and closed my land to them! They need to pass over my property to get to their other land. They can TP right?

They should of thought of others before using their security script. I am going to make it a no fly zone as well. I am grounded so they should be as well!
FlipperPA Peregrine
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04-03-2006 10:04
You know, I went almost my first full year without ever seeing ban lines. When I finally ran into them, I had no idea what they were - I figured it out after a bit, but it all seemed quite silly.

However, this seems to be more and more peoples' modus operandi, and I find that really kind of sad, especially considering how useless the current implementation is (and I thought there were loopholes in the current U.S. tax code!).

As for people who use SL as a game - I've got no beef with them. SL should be to people exactly what they wish. The people who annoy me are those who insist it is ONLY a game for EVERYONE, and try to force their extremely myopic view down the rest of our throats, despite quite a bit of evidence showing its non-game uses.

Regards,

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04-03-2006 10:19
yeah, what s/he said. :)
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04-03-2006 10:21
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
As for people who use SL as a game - I've got no beef with them. SL should be to people exactly what they wish. The people who annoy me are those who insist it is ONLY a game for EVERYONE, and try to force their extremely myopic view down the rest of our throats...


Totally. There's a big difference between "SL is a game so screw yer money" and "I play SL as a game so I don't care about money."
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04-03-2006 10:32
From: Jamie Bergman
As far as I'm aware, equality is not only a communistic ideal. Actually, its one of the cornerstones of our way of life (at least in the US). We're all presumed equal under the law :D



Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Article 7.
All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
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04-03-2006 10:35
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
You know, I went almost my first full year without ever seeing ban lines. When I finally ran into them, I had no idea what they were - I figured it out after a bit, but it all seemed quite silly.

However, this seems to be more and more peoples' modus operandi, and I find that really kind of sad, especially considering how useless the current implementation is (and I thought there were loopholes in the current U.S. tax code!).

As for people who use SL as a game - I've got no beef with them. SL should be to people exactly what they wish. The people who annoy me are those who insist it is ONLY a game for EVERYONE, and try to force their extremely myopic view down the rest of our throats, despite quite a bit of evidence showing its non-game uses.

Regards,

-Flip


Careful Flip it works both ways. SL isn't all about business and profit either.

Cat
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FlipperPA Peregrine
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04-03-2006 10:38
From: Martin Magpie
Careful Flip it works both ways. SL isn't all about business and profit either.

Cat


Oh, I know - much of what I love in SL (and the forums) is the goofing around, playing with friends, listening to music... that's why I prefaced my comment with this line:

From: Myself
As for people who use SL as a game - I've got no beef with them.


Its when people try to force the "only a game" sentiment on the entire SL world that I get ticked. :)

Regards,

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04-03-2006 10:45
From: FlipperPA Peregrine
Oh, I know - much of what I love in SL (and the forums) is the goofing around, playing with friends, listening to music... that's why I prefaced my comment with this line:



Its when people try to force the "only a game" sentiment on the entire SL world that I get ticked. :)

Regards,

-Flip


I get ticked when anyone trys to put sl into one catagory too :) Loved the interview and your right she is the pretty one :D

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04-03-2006 10:54
SL is for any individual what they chose to make it to be and that is the real beauty of it.
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04-03-2006 11:15
From: Darkness Anubis
SL is for any individual what they chose to make it to be and that is the real beauty of it.
:)


Only on your own land. You have no rights anyplace else! Even on your own property there are problems. The person who I had trouble with extended his security script to extend over my property. Problem was that by the time I got a Linden there, he has reset the security script or it does not affect Lindens. A smart move for any griefer!
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