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Question concerning moderators

Kevn Klein
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04-19-2006 08:57
My posts were removed several times yesterday. I'm wondering, did my posts in some way break the rules, or was this a case of Ulrika (who isn't an officer) deleting posts illegally? Thank you.
Kendra Bancroft
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04-19-2006 09:20
From: Kevn Klein
My posts were removed several times yesterday. I'm wondering, did my posts in some way break the rules, or was this a case of Ulrika (who isn't an officer) deleting posts illegally? Thank you.



I see absolutely no signs that any of your posts were even touched.
Could you be more specific?
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Kevn Klein
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04-19-2006 09:57
From: Kendra Bancroft
I see absolutely no signs that any of your posts were even touched.
Could you be more specific?

Yes, vivi even qouted one of the posts that were removed. Here is the post.

/103/71/100822/5.html#post994548
Kendra Bancroft
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04-19-2006 10:15
From: Kevn Klein
Yes, vivi even qouted one of the posts that were removed. Here is the post.

/103/71/100822/5.html#post994548/103/71/100822/5.html#post994548



As I haven't removed any posts --and Ulrika hasn't removed any posts I can only conclude they were removed by SC mods because of their personal attack nature.

Hope that helps.
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Kevn Klein
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04-19-2006 10:19
From: Kendra Bancroft
As I haven't removed any posts --and Ulrika hasn't removed any posts I can only conclude they were removed by SC mods because of their personal attack nature.

Hope that helps.

That's why I asked one of the lawful moderators to explain which posts were considered personal attacks.

How do you know Ulrika didn't remove them? It stopped happening when she was removed from the moderators list.

She does have a history of removing my posts.
Kendra Bancroft
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04-19-2006 10:21
From: Kevn Klein
That's why I asked one of the lawful moderators to explain which posts were considered personal attacks.

How do you know Ulrika didn't remove them? It stopped happening when she was removed from the moderators list.



I just checked that thread. There are no deleted posts on it, though the majority of the posts of your's are self-edited. Is it possible you accidently deleted your own posts?
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Kevn Klein
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04-19-2006 10:25
From: Kendra Bancroft
I just checked that thread. There are no deleted posts on it, though the majority of the posts of your's are self-edited. Is it possible you accidently deleted your own posts?

That isn't a possibility. I have not removed my posts. It wouldn't be logical. The posts were being removed by someone who had moderator powers. The list of moderators is short. Ulrika isn't on the list today and amazingly my posts aren't being removed.

Anyhow, I am asking a legal moderator for the info. So I'll wait for their answer. Thanks.
Kendra Bancroft
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04-19-2006 10:27
From: Kevn Klein
That isn't a possibility. I have not removed my posts. It wouldn't be logical. The posts were being removed by someone who had moderator powers. The list of moderators is short. Ulrika isn't on the list today and amazingly my posts aren't being removed.

Anyhow, I am asking a legal moderator for the info. So I'll wait for their answer. Thanks.



There are no deleted posts of your's Kevn. It is very easy for me to check that. I have and there are no pots showing up as being deleted.

Tell me which thread you believe they are on.
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Kevn Klein
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04-19-2006 10:28
From: Kendra Bancroft
There are no deleted posts of your's Kevn. It is very easy for me to check that. I have and there are no pots showing up as being deleted.

Tell me which thread you believe they are on.

I already did show you.
Kendra Bancroft
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04-19-2006 10:29
From: Kevn Klein
I already did show you.



There are no deleted posts on that thread.
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Kevn Klein
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04-19-2006 10:30
From: Kendra Bancroft
There are no deleted posts on that thread.

They were deleted by a moderator. At least 5 posts.
Kendra Bancroft
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04-19-2006 10:34
From: Kevn Klein
They were deleted by a moderator. At least 5 posts.



Kevn, If your posts were deleted I'd be able to see that they were deleted. There are no deleted posts on that thread.

There are many posts self-edited by you on that thread.
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Kevn Klein
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04-19-2006 10:36
From: Kendra Bancroft
Kevn, If your posts were deleted I'd be able to see that they were deleted. There are no deleted posts on that thread.

There are many posts self-edited by you on that thread.

I believe the main moderator, who would have been the group creator, can delete posts so you can't see them.

Either way, the posts were clearly removed by a moderator, that isn't in question.

btw, I know how to edit a post. I didn't delete any.

See, still editing, no deletions. I have never deleted a post by accident. One would need to mark the delete hole and click delete post. I surely didn't do that. One can't make that mistake. It requires 2 actions to delete a post.
Kendra Bancroft
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04-19-2006 10:43
From: Kevn Klein
I believe the main moderator, who would have been the group creator, can delete posts so you can't see them.

Either way, the posts were clearly removed by a moderator, that isn't in question.

btw, I know how to edit a post. I didn't delete any.


Kevn, nobody could have deleted a post without my being able to see that a post had been deleted. period. end of story.

Ulrika and I became Mods at the same time --we both shared the same ominous power.
I'm telling you right now --NO POSTS OF YOUR'S WERE DELETED BY A MODERATOR IN THAT THREAD.
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Kendra Bancroft
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04-19-2006 10:44
From: Kevn Klein
I believe the main moderator, who would have been the group creator, can delete posts so you can't see them.

Either way, the posts were clearly removed by a moderator, that isn't in question.

btw, I know how to edit a post. I didn't delete any.

See, still editing, no deletions. I have never deleted a post by accident. One would need to mark the delete hole and click delete post. I surely didn't do that. One can't make that mistake. It requires 2 actions to delete a post.



You might have deleted the portion quoted. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it was accidental.
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Kevn Klein
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04-19-2006 10:45
From: Kendra Bancroft
Kevn, nobody could have deleted a post without my being able to see that a post had been deleted. period. end of story.

Ulrika and I became Mods at the same time --we both shared the same ominous power.
I'm telling you right now --NO POSTS OF YOUR'S WERE DELETED BY A MODERATOR IN THAT THREAD.

You are wrong, end of story. I'll wait for an answer from a moderator, thanks.
Kendra Bancroft
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04-19-2006 10:46
From: Kevn Klein
You are wrong, end of story. I'll wait for an answer from a moderator, thanks.



I am a moderator. You have my answer.
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Kevn Klein
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04-19-2006 10:46
From: Kendra Bancroft
You might have deleted the portion quoted. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it was accidental.

I deleted nothing. Each post was delete within 5 minutes of its posting.
Kevn Klein
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04-19-2006 10:48
From: Kendra Bancroft
I am a moderator. You have my answer.

I mean a moderator who is legally a moderator, and who has no personal, defensive connection with Ulrika. I don't think you are legally a moderator any more than Ulrika was, if I'm not mistaken.
Kendra Bancroft
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04-19-2006 10:50
From: Kevn Klein
I mean a moderator who is legally a moderator, and who has no personal, defensive connection with Ulrika. I don't think you are legally a moderator any more than Ulrika was, if I'm not mistaken.



I am a legal Moderator of this forum. So you are mistaken.
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Dianne Mechanique
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04-19-2006 10:51
From: Kendra Bancroft
You might have deleted the portion quoted. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it was accidental.
Just to keep the drama spinning... :)

I heard a rumor yesterday from a different and usually reliable (top secret) source, that some of Kevn's posts had indeed been deleted.

I have no actual facts to back this up, and have no idea on the mechanism by which one can tell one way or the other, but I thought I could make the thread longer by mentioning it. :D
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Kevn Klein
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04-19-2006 10:52
From: Kendra Bancroft
I am a legal Moderator of this forum. So you are mistaken.

I thought you were asked to send Jeska an email to cancel your mod powers since you aren't in the SC anymore. But my memory isn't what it used to be. :)
Kevn Klein
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04-19-2006 10:54
From: Dianne Mechanique
Just to keep the drama spinning... :)

I heard a rumor yesterday from a different and usually reliable (top secret) source, that some of Kevn's posts had indeed been deleted.

I have no actual facts to back this up, and have no idea on the mechanism by which one can tell one way or the other, but I thought I could make the thread longer by mentioning it. :D

I may be rough around the edges, hold unpopular opinions etc, but Idon't think I have a reputation as a liar on this forum.
Kendra Bancroft
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04-19-2006 10:54
From: Dianne Mechanique
Just to keep the drama spinning... :)

I heard a rumor yesterday from a different and usually reliable (top secret) source, that some of Kevn's posts had indeed been deleted.

I have no actual facts to back this up, and have no idea on the mechanism by which one can tell one way or the other, but I thought I could make the thread longer by mentioning it. :D



Let's test out a theory --shall we? I will now attempt to delete the above post and we shall see if it's possible to see if it was deleted? okay?

This is just a test. Not a punishment. I've quoted your post above so that we can actually still read your post.

Well whattaya know? You can clearly see that Dianne's post has been deleted by me!
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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04-19-2006 10:55
This really is quite a mystery. :D

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