Summary and Logs - Neualtenburg RA Meeting for Sept. 18th, 2005

Notecards that were included in the Agenda will be posted in replies directly after this post. The Meeting log will follow directly after the notecard details.

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Neualtenburg RA Meeting Agenda
September 18th, 2005
**Notecard: RA Procedures for Meetings (included here strictly for reference)


1. Proposal for addition to RA Procedures for Meetings
** Notecard: Details of Proposal for Addition to RA Procedures



2. Vote on Rental Chalets during Holiday Season Proposal (was proposed last RA Meeting)
** Notecard: Proposal on Rental Chalets


3. Proposal to request from Guild a list of ways they are going to improve upon the current City Lag situation. Guild would need to include in their list any items that may need RA approval (ie Builds the RA has in the past deemed "Needed for the City".


4. Proposal to ask Guild to Take over Tiny City and move it out of the Platz. Would require a submitted Proposal by the Guild on their plans for the Tiny City and whether or not they would make it a "private" guild build, or request funding from the city in any form.


5. Proposal to allow the Casino to be taken over by a Private Group. Discussion should inlude concerns of Lag that some citizens have expressed.
** Notecard: Casino Proposals and Discussions


6. If yes to Casino Proposal - Vote on Proposal to allow the Private Group to move the Casino to the location where the Neualtenburg BierGarten currently sits. In turn replacing the BierGarten with the new Casino.


7. EXPO - Proposal and Question
A) Proposal - [Omitted for web due to wanting proposal to be a surprise to non-citzens]
B) Question - Where to publish/announce the events during the EXPO?


8. Univercity Proposal Revamped
** Notecard: Details of Univercity Proposal


9. Proposals from Guild on Requested RA Builds
** Notecard: Details of Guild MoCA Proposal
** Notecard: Details of Guild Re-Vamped Rathaus Propsal

Details of Proposal for Addition to RA Procedures

Submitted by Pendari:

Proposal to add Vote option of "Yes Vote Now. If No - then moves to Yes Vote within 7 Days

Under 3) Voting on Proposed Bills.
Currently states:

The LRA is the chairperson of the proceedings. She/he initiates the topic, and finishes it when she/he decides that discussion is sufficient. A two-thirds majority can override the action of the LRA to finish that discussion topic. At the point of finishing that topic for that meeting, there may be up to 3 polls taken:
1) is the topic ready for a vote?
If Yes, the topic is referred to the members. The members vote during the seven days immediately following the meeting. The results are published in the forum, along with how each member voted.

Proposed Change would Read:

The LRA is the chairperson of the proceedings. She/he initiates the topic, and finishes it when she/he decides that discussion is sufficient. A two-thirds majority can override the action of the LRA to finish that discussion topic. At the point of finishing that topic for that meeting, there may be up to 3 polls taken:
1) is the topic ready for a vote?
A) Yes Vote Now - If Voting Now, a vote will be taken immediately - If No go to B
B) Yes but Vote in 7 Days. The topic is referred to the members. The members vote during the seven days immediately following the meeting. The results are published in the forum, along with how each member voted.


Reason for proposing this addition:
Sometimes there will be items where we are simply ready to vote on them during the meeting due to all discussion being accepted as "all the input we need". This saves that proposal having to wait up to a week to get implemented, when it could be something we want to move on right away.

It also allows us to vote at meetings on any items from prior meetings that we did not use the 7 days to discuss. This should not happen often. But it can happen (and did on a proposal from last RA meeting on Sept 11th (The Propsal on Rental Chalets).

If everyone in attendance at todays meeting (Sept 18th) agrees, I would like to see this addition take affect imediately during this meeting. This would also help us with a few items on today's agenda that have already been discussed greatly and that I'm sure many would like to already move forward on.

Proposal on Rental Chalets

FROM SUDANE:
Kendra proposed that during the holiday season a series of temporary rental chalets be constructed and located on City land below the walls. This would bring revenue, and, even more important, new faces. The chalets would not be permanent, since they would be located on land destined to be sold. I proposed that the rental income be split 50/50 between the Guild and the City, and Kendra was very agreeable to that.

Casino Proposals and Discussions


Satchmo:

From Thread 2:
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Private Management of Neualtenburg Casino

Our Casino needs a major overhaul, including a new building and new gaming machines. It lacks overall leadership and promotional abilities, even though it could add welcome revenue and dwell to the city.

I'd like to propose a bill for this weeks RA meeeting transfering management of the Casino to a private management company (Digi Vox, and myself). We would help pay/work with the Guild to build the new Casino. The Casino's structure and plot would remain the property of Neualtenburg. The managment company would share profits with the city, giving the city 20% of the profit during the first 6 months, and 40% of the profit for the next six months. Terms of the deal would be renegotiable in 1 year.

The high start up cost of bank rolling and deploying gaming machines account for 80/20 6 month split. We plan to create the gaming machines ourselves, designing them to be friendly to the SIM. I think a determined management company operating the Casino is better both for long term dwell and revenue.
What do Neualtenburgers think of this?

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I like the idea of the Casino being within the city walls. I think it is better for visibility that way, and it gives the Guild one more structure to influence the city. I've been suggesting that we nuke the Biergarten and build the new Casino in its place. Altenburg has a great pub and it moves the Casino off of the Marketplatz.

I'd also be open to any ideas that would move it even further away from the Marketplatz, but with 21 citizens in the city it's hard to find a location that wouldn't affect them. For instance, Digi and I have 4 consecutive plots near the MoCA, however Yogeswari lives across the street, and she probably would not have chosen that plot if it meant having a Casino neighbor. Nevermind that it would be questionable city planning to build a Casino across from a MoCA.

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Gwyneth:

From Thread 1
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3) Casino. This is a double issue to deal with:

a) Move it slightly away from the Marktplatz. That will not remove the overall lag, but only the Marktplatz lag. The best choice so far seems to be re-using the space currently occupied by Urusula's Biergarten. Since I moved most of my events towards the Alterburg Restaurant (which was somewhat planned from the beginning to host discussion-type events), Urusula's Biergarten is now pretty much unused, and I think you all know the feeling I have about "nice buildings" in the city that never get actually used. So, either someone - or a group of someones - wish to use that structure, or, although I like it very much (despite the texture problems inside), I really do propose to replace it with the Casino instead.

b) Scripts of the Casino machines. Eggy Lippmann may be one of the best scripters in SL (and he's humble enough never to admit that, at least in public ), but like all scripters, he had to learn The scripts at the Casino are Eggy's "first-generation" work. While we can't expect Eggy to change them all for free (he's not even a N'burger any more), we can consider the following alternatives:
i) employ our own talented scripters and comission them new machines;
ii) pay Eggy to have him replace the scripts (this will probably be more expensive - Eggy is simply not in the casino game machines business, so he won't get a return for his work, unlike our own talented scripters, who would eventually be able to sell the machines by themselves, and thus reduce the price for us, as they would have an expected return on future sales);
iii) Simpy buy new, "modern" machines, which are less laggy.
I think that any of these alternatives is much more expensive than simply moving the Casino to another place. However, the more it'll be away from the Marktplatz/Telehub, the less income it will generate. It's a hard trade-off.

-- From Thread 2
/103/80/61875/1.html

After reading this thread, though, I don't oppose the idea of refurnishing the Biergarten as a "retro Casino" - rather the contrary, I love that idea

Also, although in principle the SDF mostly prefers having City-owned structures instead of group-managed ones, I'm definitely not going to vote against the suggestion of having Satchmo & Digi run it, when it comes to a vote at the RA, if their proposal is subject to the guidelines that Ulrika has set earlier on this thread


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Kendra:
From Thread 2
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I rather like the Biergarten --I'd propose keeping and tweaking the existing structure and re-purposing it as a casino. The I would develop the gasthaus to be more of bierhall --love to work with Garnet on that one --I like her work near the expo and would love to incorporate much of it into the refitted-gasthaus in Altenburg.

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Ulrika:
From Thread 2
/103/80/61875/1.html

Personally, I'm thrilled by the idea of this. You're an exceptionally talented artisan with a history of working with large projects. I can't imagine it would be anything but a success.
When folks around the city talk about "privatization", it often means they would like groups to pay for both the land and land-use fees. It sounds like you would like the city to continue to pay for the land and land-use fees, while your group would be in charge of redesigning the structure and games and then managing it. If this is the case we should compare your total costs against the city's total land costs to help guide us in making a fair split.

Also, instead of having a time-varying split, we might want to discuss selling bonds specifically to support your work (it would require an estimate). It would be a great way to reward ambition up front and spread the risk among many individuals instead of having you shoulder all the risk.

Additional concerns is that I'd like the revenue and accounting to be 100% transparent (logged to our server).

Details of Univercity Proposal

The Univercity building received a majorty No vote [As being needed by the city]. But RA member Gwyneth Llewelyn expressed a true need for an "organized education system" for Neualtenburg to help increase visitors to the city. Because the service role of the RA is to promote the city and perform long-term planning, Pendari Lorentz would like to propose that the RA works to form a committee that would be responsible for gathering information on creating an "organized education system" for Neualtenburg. This committee would present the RA a proposal based on their findings. At that time, the RA can determine a plan of action, including the possiblity of approaching the Gildemeister with a request to form a proposal for a building.

Details of Guild MoCA Proposal

MoCA

Building Plan and Budget proposal by DIE GILDE.

Due to the small hilltop area for the proposed building of MoCA, and
recognizing the needs of a modern building well integrated into the
architecture of the City of Neualtenburg, The Guild proposes a modern
bauhaus inspired build reflective of Neualtenburg's only other hilltop
building "The Schloss"

Luckily a model of such a build exists in the real world near the
Rhein. It is on the French side, but it was designed by noted
post-modern expressionist architect Frank Gehry.
(This is the same architect who designed the Bilbao Guggenheim, that
Ulrika is so fond of)

I speak of the Musee Vitra. Small in scale,white and reminicent of a
streamlined castle, it is in my opinion a perfect fit for
Neualtenburg.

See attached images.

Phase I
The Musee will begin it's first incarnation as more an arts gallery,
selling original works of art and generating it's income as does a
gallery, by charging a 10% commision on art sales to the artist
directly and welcoming voluntary donations to the MoCA as price of
admission.
Upon reaching, thru sales and donations the price borrowed from The
Altenburg Gruppe, the MoCA reaches Phase II. In this phase, DIE GILDE
and Altenburg Gruppe will work together to set the agenda for MoCA as
a private enterprise. As a private enterprise, the RA may elect to
have the build taxed for sales, or feeling it more beneficial to have
it become governmental property under the auspices of DIE GILDE, it
may elect to make it a tax free enterprise in order to hasten it's
becoming Municipal property.


Phase II
MoCA will be used for various shows of public enlightenment and
enjoyment and will become privately owned by DIE GILDE as a Municipal
Art's Center and headquarters of DIE GILDE. At this point, the RA and
SC may commision DIE GILDE for specific shows and events that it feels
would benefit the City. As a Municipal building, it will continue to
be managed by DIE GILDE but will appoint a member from each of the
other 2 branches of Government to serve on it's board.




Proposed funding is to all intents and purposes a closed issue for the
RA, as DIE GILDE will be responsable for both funding the Build (with
moneys borrowed from the Altenburg Gruppe) and paying the land fees
(with Moneys from the sale of original works of art) as the
designated MoCAM. DIE GILDE may opt to deed the building (once it has
paid it's benefactor) as public works for a mutually agreed price
should the RA seek change the management, but DIE GILDE will not be
bound to deed the building to the City ) as it is a privatley
contracted Building and the GILDE, having absorbed all costs for the
build itself retain exclusive rights to the architecture.

The City of Neualtenburg will retain first right of refusal on
purchasing the build from DIE GILDE should it decide to (or be
replaced by the RA) as MoCAM.

Respectfully,
Kendra Bancroft
Gildemeister
DIE GILDE
Neualtenburg

Details of Guild Re-Vamped Rathaus Propsal

RATHAUS

Building Plan and Budget proposed by DIE GILDE.

In short, DIE GILDE proposes on the former site of the Casino, a build
for the RATHAUS designed to impress.

Bordering on The Schloss and the Marktplatz, it will tie design from
both areas and integrate with the fountain which stands directly in
front.

Proposed is a recreation of the RATHAUS from Rothenburg, Germany.

see attached images.


With offices of deed management and a meeting place for Government
business on the 2nd and Third floors, The first floor will comprise a
grand lobby, an information center, translation service, and a
municipally owned Neualtenburg souvenir shop.

An ambitious project in scope and a build more complicated than either
the Kirche or The Schloss --requiring DIE GILDE to employ a
landscaper, an architect and a decorator (texture artist) as well as a
scripter. The RATHAUS, standing three stories tall with a footprint of
15m X 30m will in short, require adequate funding for the build.

In light of the complicated architecture and textures, and the sheer
amount of people involved, DIE GILDE sets the budget at $20,000
Lindens with DIE Gilde paying the artisans directly for their
contributions.

The RATHAUS is a purely municipal building and upon payment to DIE
GILDE will be owned by The City. All work to be set to "share with
group" under the Raumnutzer heading.

Respectfully,

Kendra Bancroft
Gildemeister

Begin Meeting Logs Section - 6 Parts

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Region: Neualtenburg (246528, 249600)
Local-Position: (174, 165, 172)
Meeting on 2005-09-18
Those present:
Pendari Lorentz is in the chair.
Sudane Erato: recorder is on
Pendari Lorentz: Alright.. thank you! =)
Pendari Lorentz: Welcome RA members and fellow citizens =)
Sudane Erato: :)
Pendari Lorentz: before we begin today's meeting.. I wanted to issue a
statement based on something I have been witnessing at past RA meetings
Gwyneth Llewelyn: ok.
Kendra Bancroft: okay I'll stop making bitchy jokes
Gwyneth Llewelyn: ;)
Pendari Lorentz: We are here today to discuss issues that pertain to
the RA. All of us that are in the RA also happen to be in the
Neualtenburg Guild
Pendari Lorentz: there is often a fine line we have to draw between
what is an RA issue, and what is a guild issue
Gwyneth Llewelyn *nods*
Pendari Lorentz: to use an example .. I will refer to an item on
today's agenda.
Kendra Bancroft: Oh just surrender the City to me
Kendra Bancroft: It will all go much smoother
Aliasi Stonebender: well
Aliasi Stonebender: it would certainly give me something to do. the
problem is, we don't have a convient forest for me to retreat to for
gurilla warfare. *g*
Pendari Lorentz: One of the roles of the RA is to promote the city. If
we feel there is Lag in the city, we need to address the Guild and
request from them ways to deal with the lag. In other words, the RA's role
is to see the issue and delegate it to the guild. The
Pendari Lorentz: Guild is responsible for the specifics of HOW it will
be done.
Sudane Erato: makes sense
Pendari Lorentz: so the RA meeting would not be used to go over our
ideas of how to handle that lag. We would save those ideas for guild
meetings.
Kendra Bancroft: I have been saying this for months
Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah yes.
Pendari Lorentz: I say this only because I want RA members to keep this
in mind as we proceed through our agenda. =)
Pendari Lorentz: Does anyone object to what I have stated? Or need
further clarification?
Kendra Bancroft: Things in the Guild are much smoother now that I have
Ulrika organizing Guild issues
Sudane Erato: I agree with it
Satchmo Prototype: I agree as well
Gwyneth Llewelyn: Definitely correct :)
Gwyneth Llewelyn agrees as well.
Pendari Lorentz: Welcome Eugene =)
Sudane Erato: welcome Eugene!
Kendra Bancroft: Did everyone in the RA get my e-mails by the way?
Sudane Erato: I did
Satchmo Prototype: yes
Gwyneth Llewelyn: Oh, I have my Mail program off, Kendra :P
Pendari Lorentz: Would someone be kind enough to cut and paste into an
IM to Eugene what I just stated.. =)
Pendari Lorentz: it is on the Agenda Kendra
Pendari Lorentz: if you do not yet have an agenda for today. Please
click the Penguin =)
Kendra Bancroft: Oh Eugene? You are on the Schloss comittee now?
fantastic
Eugene Pomeray: ok :)
Eugene Pomeray: yes :)
Pendari Lorentz: Ok. Moving on to the first Agenda Item: 1. Proposal
for addition to RA Procedures for Meetings
Sudane Erato: yes
Pendari Lorentz: thoughts on this proposal?
Eugene Pomeray: i like the chalet btw :)
Satchmo Prototype: I think it is well needed
Sudane Erato: the addition makes a lot of sense
Sudane Erato: I think the only snafu will be making the decision which
technique will be used
Pendari Lorentz: Personally.. I think if even one RA member thinks we
need the 7 days on the vote, then we go to the 7 days
Kendra Bancroft: I propose mandatory laughter when I make snide
comments
Sudane Erato: I propose no snide comments
Pendari Lorentz: in other words.. I would have to be unanimous that we
are ready to vote *right then*
Sudane Erato: yes Pen
Kendra Bancroft: :P
Gwyneth Llewelyn: Yes :)
Sudane Erato: that makes sense
Pendari Lorentz: It*
Satchmo Prototype: agreed
Sudane Erato: so, with that addition...
Sudane Erato: we all agree?
Pendari Lorentz: Eugene.. would have to say yes for it to take affect
immediatly =)
Pendari Lorentz: hehe
Gwyneth Llewelyn: :-D
Gwyneth Llewelyn: poor Eugene... he's probably again on a very bad
connection :(
Eugene Pomeray: i agree :)
Gwyneth Llewelyn: aaah
Gwyneth Llewelyn: yay!
Pendari Lorentz: excellent!
Pendari Lorentz: *channeled Merwan -*
Eugene Pomeray: the connection is very bad :/
Gwyneth Llewelyn: :(
Pendari Lorentz: alright Eugene. I have a feeling our biggest votes of
the day will be moved to 7 days. So hopefully you will not lose any
input =)
Pendari Lorentz: Agenda Item One: Proposal approved. Moving on to next
Agenda item if no further comments
Gwyneth Llewelyn: Go on :)
Sudane Erato: yes, go on
Pendari Lorentz: Agenda Item 2. Vote on Rental Chalets during Holiday
Season Proposal (was proposed last RA Meeting)
Pendari Lorentz: We sort of forgot to vote on this the past week .. My
fault more than anyones
Sudane Erato: I will make the point that outside thw walls land is
going very fast
Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well, I miss the dates and duration of the rentals,
but I still agree on them on principle.
Pendari Lorentz: *blush*
Eugene Pomeray: yes me too
Sudane Erato: the proposed lots are still available
Sudane Erato: but if there is pressure... that people want to buy
Gwyneth Llewelyn: Hmm.
Sudane Erato: what should we do?
Eugene Pomeray: in addition to the chalet we should add few things as
well
Kendra Bancroft: I'd like to know as soon as possible --because if it
is not possible in Neualtenburg, I will do this rental chalet thingie in
Isenland instead
Pendari Lorentz: Yes. We actually had a person interested in deeding
that land yesterday (a visitor of the expo).. so the question came up. Do
we say yes to the Rental Chalets proposal, but perhaps understand that
it may need to be in a different location?
Gwyneth Llewelyn: Well yes on that.
Sudane Erato: there are only I think 4 outside lots left
Sudane Erato: the different location may then not be Neualt
Kendra Bancroft: I only require 4 512 plots
Pendari Lorentz: Kendra.. has the guild given thought to building up?
Pendari Lorentz: meaning perhaps, adding a ramp to what looks like a
hill.. that sits above land already owned by the guild
Kendra Bancroft: building up?
Pendari Lorentz: that could be used for the Chalets?
Gwyneth Llewelyn: ... only 4 left? wow....
Pendari Lorentz: to do a nice setting for the Chalets
Eugene Pomeray: the land right below the walls could be used as chalet
area
Kendra Bancroft: The Gild owns no land
Aliasi Stonebender: yes, the outside is filling up quick.
Pendari Lorentz: that was the original spot requested Eugene.. But that
was also the spot someoen asked about getting deeded
Sudane Erato: the land right below the walls are lots 290 and 300
Eugene Pomeray: ah
Pendari Lorentz: hmm.. yes.. You are right Kendra
Pendari Lorentz: and my ideas are more a guild issue
Pendari Lorentz: Ok. RA members. Let the guild work out the details on
how and where. But do we as the RA approve this Proposal otherwise?
Gwyneth Llewelyn: dates!
Sudane Erato: I would say approve it in such a way that land sales
comes first
Eugene Pomeray: i say yes :)
Eugene Pomeray: yes
Pendari Lorentz: I agree Sudane
Sudane Erato: if land is available then ok
Kendra Bancroft: How we can do --where is up to the RA
Kendra Bancroft: and yes --sales are priority always
Gwyneth Llewelyn: I'm sorry to repeat myself... hehe
Sudane Erato: so, how can it be worded so sales are a priority?
Gwyneth Llewelyn: We need somehow to set dates, and periods
Pendari Lorentz: Ok. Then I propose that the RA accepts the proposal of
"What will be done", and over the next 7 days come up with our
"conditions" for the Guild
Gwyneth Llewelyn: Ah. I can agree on that :)
Sudane Erato: yes
Gwyneth Llewelyn: Although not much is to be discussed...
Pendari Lorentz: hehe.. true.
Kendra Bancroft: I am proposing a 4 month lease o November thru March
Gwyneth Llewelyn: We can do weekly rentals... so the worse case
scenario is having someone who has to wait one week for a sale.
Gwyneth Llewelyn: Noted, Kendra!
Pendari Lorentz: but it will probably be easier for us all if we can
put our thoughts down in an email
Sudane Erato: no, gwyn, cause the rental lots may not coincide with the
for sale lots
Gwyneth Llewelyn: hmm
Sudane Erato: yes... the email
Gwyneth Llewelyn: If there is no overlap, ok
Pendari Lorentz: that would be part of the "conditions" we would work
on for the guild Gwyneth =)
Satchmo Prototype: what would the price of the rentals be?
Satchmo Prototype: compared to lost revenue on land rent?
Kendra Bancroft: I am thinking of 500 Lindens a month
Pendari Lorentz: I beleive last meeting it was stated $250L per month?
Pendari Lorentz: ahh.. oh! the 50/50 split is what I forgot
Gwyneth Llewelyn: inflation :) hehe
Pendari Lorentz: yes.. so $500L per month.. split between Guild and
city
Kendra Bancroft: No --I didn't build the split into my suggestion last
week
Sudane Erato: yes
Pendari Lorentz: with Gildemeister receiving 10% of the Guild income
for the duration
Kendra Bancroft: yes
Kendra Bancroft: So I would get 25 indens a month ::::droool::::::
Pendari Lorentz: lol
Pendari Lorentz: hey.. it adds up! =)
Gwyneth Llewelyn: :)
Satchmo Prototype: heh maybe we can put it up on the MoCA hill if it's
not build yet :P
Gwyneth Llewelyn: hmm
Pendari Lorentz: Ok.. Action on this Agenda item: RA likes the proposal
of the Rental Chalets, but would like a 7 day period to discuss
"conditions" that we think will be needed for the city.
Gwyneth Llewelyn: not bad idea... :)
Kendra Bancroft: The whole point of a acation chalet is to be outside
the city
Sudane Erato: good Pen
Satchmo Prototype: heh good point Kendra ;)
Pendari Lorentz: If no objections to that Action. We will move on to
the next Agenda Item
Sudane Erato: yes
Kendra Bancroft: as you can see by the roof --it's designed for winter
Eugene Pomeray: can i add something to the agenda?
Pendari Lorentz: Is it an item that relates to something already on the
Agenda Eugene?
Sudane Erato: otherwise it must be given to Pen before
Kendra Bancroft: The chalets will be identical in form --but not
texture --four models --the eagle, dragon, swan and penguin
Kendra Bancroft: I mean chicken
Pendari Lorentz: If not, we can vote to include it today, or have it
wait till next week. As
Eugene Pomeray: ok
Pendari Lorentz: per the RA procedures (and I know you have been having
computer issues.. so I'm flexible if others are) =)
Kendra Bancroft: On the floor right now is the Eagle
Tai Tuppakaka: Chicken? Hehe.
Kendra Bancroft: Chicken is our national bird
Gwyneth Llewelyn: Indeed :)
Sudane Erato: could we keep to the topic of the agneda?
Eugene Pomeray: sure
Pendari Lorentz: While Eugene types his request.. Lets move on to the
next Agenda item
Kendra Bancroft: I'm just giving data to inform the vote --I thot I was
on agenda
Pendari Lorentz: Agenda Item 3. Proposal to request from Guild a list
of ways they are going to improve upon the current City Lag situation.
Guild would need to include in their list any items that may need RA
approval (ie Builds the RA has in the past deemed "Needed fo
Kendra Bancroft: my apologies
Pendari Lorentz: r the City")
Eugene Pomeray: well, i think we could discuss business in Neualtenburg
Pendari Lorentz: Oh my.. haha.. Eugene. Let's put that on the next
agenda =)
Eugene Pomeray: like business area or street
Eugene Pomeray: ok sure
Sudane Erato: yes
Sudane Erato: Lag
Pendari Lorentz: because I do think it is something we should talk
about.. but would be better if we could get our thoughts together before
hand.. So proposal noted for next agenda! =)
Eugene Pomeray: ok :)
Sudane Erato: ok
Pendari Lorentz: Ok.. Lag. Current issue. Proposal to have Guild list
ways they are going to improve on this issue.
Pendari Lorentz: thoughts?
Gwyneth Llewelyn: So, basically, what I see is that all the work is
going to be dropped unto the Guild :)
Gwyneth Llewelyn: 1) See what causes lag
Pendari Lorentz: hahaha

Actions Summary based on Meeting Logs
*** Refer to Agenda if needed


Action for Agenda Item 1:
Proposal approved. Additional wording will be added to the RA Procedures for Meetings. Will also include the condition of "unanimous" vote by all RA members.



Action for Agenda Item 2:
RA likes the proposal of the Rental Chalets, but would like a 7 day period to discuss "conditions" that we think will be needed for the city.



Action for Agenda Item 3:
Gildemeister Kendra is asked to present the RA with a list of ways the Guild is currently working on to improve the lag situation. The RA holds this issue as a top priority for the guild right now, and would like to see immediate action on improving the Lag situation in the city (and valley if needed).



Action for Agenda Item 4:
Guild will remove/[store] the current Tiny City. The RA requests that the Gildemeister submit ideas for future use of the Tiny City. Including if it will need to be funded by the Neualtenburg City or by a private citizen.



Action for Agenda Item 5 and 6 Combined:
RA approves of the Guild removing/[storing] the current city Casino. The RA has the next seven days to discuss the private ownership of a casino within the city.




Action for Agenda Item 7:
A. [Removed from Website as per reasons stated in Agenda]. Vote of YES
B) Guild members wishing to understand how to list events. Will get together with land owners, Gildemeister, and estate holder to find out how this is done.



Action for Agenda Item 8:
The RA requests that a committee of Guild members is formed that would be responsible for gathering information on creating an "organized education system" for Neualtenburg. Additions to this proposal can be brought to the Guild or future RA agendas.



Action for Agenda Item 9:
The build proposals requested and received will be voted on by the RA within the next 7 days.


END OF ACTIONS SUMMARY

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Pendari,

I wanted to tell you, that the program, from which you're pasting text into my webpage, is breaking lines of text. The broken lines then show up as grey text underneath the colored text.

I know in MacOS that if I cut and paste from a terminal this happens but not if I cut and paste from a program like TextEdit.

~Ulrika~

Thanks Ulrika! I was wondering what was causing that. I've tried Wordpad and Word and even the Yahoo Text attachment. Next time I'll try simple notepad and see if that does not help. Thank you for the heads up!

Hmm. If they're being emailed to you, the email program itself might be doing it.

I'll add something to the web page that tries to repair broken lines in case you can't find a solution.

~Ulrika~

I've tried it from both (my own cut and paste that was saved - and an email text copy of the recorder). So at least 3 different types of "programs" are making it funky. But, if those three types are similar in some way, it makes sense they would do that. I'll certainly try a simple notepad next time, but also anything you can adjust is great too! I know we PC/Windows people are a pain!

OK. I added a "repair broken lines" feature to the transcript web page. It will work 99% of the time, if there are broken lines, failing only on SL-generated messages like log-on notifications. It only required the addition of three lines of code.

~Ulrika~

Sweet!! Thank you Ulrika! I actually use your color transcript thing for a variety of "logs". Not just those for Neualt. I *really* love the tool. Thank you again for creating it!!