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Craig Absolute

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Join date: 5 Jun 2005

Posts: 18

03-22-2006 20:47

I am looking to make an application, which I eventually hope to become an applet (whenever Windows Vista finally gets here) that can sit on the desktop and give me the same "Friends Online" list that appears on the Second Life website.

I cannot find any documentation on how to interface from Second Life to the "outside" world, at least not for this purpose.

Where can I get this information?

This is probably the wrong forum for this, but I didn't think it would really fall under scripting as it is not "in world" scripting.

Torley Linden

Enlightenment!

Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

03-23-2006 21:34

I heard a little while ago about Residents who made widgets like this for the Dashboard in OS X. Have a look at these threads started by Prester Joffre and Ali Maltz:

/164/37/80826/1.html
/164/42/82658/1.html

While it's a different platform, some of the principles are the same. I'll move your query to Scripting Tips where hopefully it can be discussed further. I don't know of an official documentation pack to do this, but looks like Resident ingenuity has struck again! Best of hope.

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Frans Charming

You only need one Frans

Join date: 28 Jan 2005

Posts: 1,847

03-23-2006 23:40

Josie hamilton made one for windows.
http://www.josiehamilton.com/

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Torley Linden

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Posts: 16,530

03-23-2006 23:48

OMG geez I didn't know this earlier! Thanx for the tip, Frans... learn something new everyday... niceness Josie!

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Craig Absolute

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Join date: 5 Jun 2005

Posts: 18

03-24-2006 00:22

Thank you Torley and Frans. And especially Josie Hamilton.

Robin Peel

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Join date: 8 Feb 2005

Posts: 163

03-24-2006 01:25

Wow, this is something that I've been waiting for. I'm glad somebody made one for Windows. Glad this thread came out.

Argent Stonecutter

Emergency Mustelid

Join date: 20 Sep 2005

Posts: 20,263

Try konfabulator!

03-24-2006 08:32

If you use Konfabulator/Yahoo Widgets you don't need to wait for Vista and your widgets will run on Mac OS X or Windows already.

Right now I have Gorgy Clock running on both my Mac and Windows desktops, in the same spot, so when I switch between them with my KVM switch it doesn't move. It's really a freaky-cool effect.

As an added bonus, because they don't use HTML the Konfabulator widgets are MUCH less CPU-intensive than Dashboard widgets (which is another reason I don't want to see HTML on a prim) and don't need to hide in the Dashboard (though they have a dashboard-equivalent they call a Heads Up Display

).

Frans Charming

You only need one Frans

Join date: 28 Jan 2005

Posts: 1,847

03-24-2006 16:03

Thanks Argent, just looking at that site puts extra fire under my HUD ideas.

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Josie Hamilton

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Join date: 7 Mar 2004

Posts: 164

03-24-2006 16:59

Thanks Frans for giving a shout out.

Unfortunately many new SL projects put the further development of this on the back burner. Not to mention I got stuck on 2 issues that would vastly improve the tool. If there are any VB 2005 developers out there that are interested in helping out...

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Craig Absolute

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Join date: 5 Jun 2005

Posts: 18

03-25-2006 12:21

I have been a programmer for 30+ years, and have been working with VB since version 1.

I have not been able to get much into the new .Net stuff, but I am an MSDN member and I do have VB2005.

I am always looking to learn something new, and add to my available skills.

I would be very interested in having a look at what you have, both as a learning experience and to help out.

Perhaps even a conversion to Konfabulator (aka Yahoo! Widget Engine) would not be out of the question.

Raphael Rutherford

Resident Resident

Join date: 26 Mar 2004

Posts: 236

07-08-2006 06:15

Not as nice as Josies but with a few nice additions. See my sig for my Friends Online app.

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Goodbye and thanks for all the prims.

Jesse Malthus

OMG HAX!

Join date: 21 Apr 2006

Posts: 649

07-08-2006 10:54

Hopefully getting a "Friends Online" list will be a priority for libsecondlife in the days to come. Yey for .NET!
--Jesse

Llauren Mandelbrot

Twenty-Four Weeks Old.

Join date: 26 Apr 2006

Posts: 665

07-08-2006 12:33

From: Raphael Rutherford

Not as nice as Josies but with a few nice additions. See my sig for my Friends Online app.

Does this work with Linux?

Craig Absolute

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Join date: 5 Jun 2005

Posts: 18

07-08-2006 13:23

For Raphael Rutherford - would you be interested in posting or allowing a look at your source code. Slfo.exe does not appear to be written in .Net, with all of that processor and memory overhead.

I am still interested in making a widget for the Yahoo Widget Engine.

Draco18s Majestic

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Join date: 19 Sep 2005

Posts: 2,744

07-08-2006 16:16

You should get together with this guy:
/13/22/108293/1.html

Raphael Rutherford

Resident Resident

Join date: 26 Mar 2004

Posts: 236

07-09-2006 04:31

Llauren:
Sorry, it's a windows only app. However, it's pretty sinple and the parsing of the online firends is now much easier using the iframe version of the friends list, that Cornelius Linden tipped me about :
http://secondlife.com/community/friends-iframe.php

Craig:
I will not publish the code at the moment, but have no problem explaning what was done.
The code is written in MFC/C++. I found .NET to be way to complicated and bloated for this.
I use CInternetSession and GetHttpConnection to fetch the friends page and parse it by simply loooking at the <td> and </td> tags. Coloring and text effects are set by comparing to the last list fetched and matching against the match list.

I have made a new version that uses XML-RPC to communicate with an object in-world to get all sim stats and the visitors on your land. It can also do a regular sensor scan, and you can talk to/listen to people within chat range. You can also send IM's to any resident.
And a lot more is possible, limited only (well, mostly) by the imagination.

_____________________

Goodbye and thanks for all the prims.

Raphael Rutherford

Resident Resident

Join date: 26 Mar 2004

Posts: 236

07-15-2006 14:24

Updated SLFO to version 1.3.0.1 to fix a few minor bugs.

New version is available here .

_____________________

Goodbye and thanks for all the prims.

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Craig Absolute Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2005 Posts: 18	03-22-2006 20:47 I am looking to make an application, which I eventually hope to become an applet (whenever Windows Vista finally gets here) that can sit on the desktop and give me the same "Friends Online" list that appears on the Second Life website. I cannot find any documentation on how to interface from Second Life to the "outside" world, at least not for this purpose. Where can I get this information? This is probably the wrong forum for this, but I didn't think it would really fall under scripting as it is not "in world" scripting.
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	03-23-2006 21:34 I heard a little while ago about Residents who made widgets like this for the Dashboard in OS X. Have a look at these threads started by Prester Joffre and Ali Maltz: /164/37/80826/1.html /164/42/82658/1.html While it's a different platform, some of the principles are the same. I'll move your query to Scripting Tips where hopefully it can be discussed further. I don't know of an official documentation pack to do this, but looks like Resident ingenuity has struck again! Best of hope. _____________________
Frans Charming You only need one Frans Join date: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,847	03-23-2006 23:40 Josie hamilton made one for windows. http://www.josiehamilton.com/ _____________________
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	03-23-2006 23:48 OMG geez I didn't know this earlier! Thanx for the tip, Frans... learn something new everyday... niceness Josie! _____________________
Craig Absolute Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2005 Posts: 18	03-24-2006 00:22 Thank you Torley and Frans. And especially Josie Hamilton.
Robin Peel Registered User Join date: 8 Feb 2005 Posts: 163	03-24-2006 01:25 Wow, this is something that I've been waiting for. I'm glad somebody made one for Windows. Glad this thread came out.
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	Try konfabulator! 03-24-2006 08:32 If you use Konfabulator/Yahoo Widgets you don't need to wait for Vista and your widgets will run on Mac OS X or Windows already. Right now I have Gorgy Clock running on both my Mac and Windows desktops, in the same spot, so when I switch between them with my KVM switch it doesn't move. It's really a freaky-cool effect. As an added bonus, because they don't use HTML the Konfabulator widgets are MUCH less CPU-intensive than Dashboard widgets (which is another reason I don't want to see HTML on a prim) and don't need to hide in the Dashboard (though they have a dashboard-equivalent they call a Heads Up Display ).
Frans Charming You only need one Frans Join date: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,847	03-24-2006 16:03 Thanks Argent, just looking at that site puts extra fire under my HUD ideas. _____________________
Josie Hamilton Second Style Publisher Join date: 7 Mar 2004 Posts: 164	03-24-2006 16:59 Thanks Frans for giving a shout out. Unfortunately many new SL projects put the further development of this on the back burner. Not to mention I got stuck on 2 issues that would vastly improve the tool. If there are any VB 2005 developers out there that are interested in helping out... _____________________ ---===\|\|\|===--- www.secondstyle.com Vote for Prop 873: Change Clothes Without Standing Up
Craig Absolute Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2005 Posts: 18	03-25-2006 12:21 I have been a programmer for 30+ years, and have been working with VB since version 1. I have not been able to get much into the new .Net stuff, but I am an MSDN member and I do have VB2005. I am always looking to learn something new, and add to my available skills. I would be very interested in having a look at what you have, both as a learning experience and to help out. Perhaps even a conversion to Konfabulator (aka Yahoo! Widget Engine) would not be out of the question.
Raphael Rutherford Resident Resident Join date: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 236	07-08-2006 06:15 Not as nice as Josies but with a few nice additions. See my sig for my Friends Online app. _____________________ Goodbye and thanks for all the prims.
Jesse Malthus OMG HAX! Join date: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 649	07-08-2006 10:54 Hopefully getting a "Friends Online" list will be a priority for libsecondlife in the days to come. Yey for .NET! --Jesse
Llauren Mandelbrot Twenty-Four Weeks Old. Join date: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 665	07-08-2006 12:33 From: Raphael Rutherford Not as nice as Josies but with a few nice additions. See my sig for my Friends Online app. Does this work with Linux?
Craig Absolute Registered User Join date: 5 Jun 2005 Posts: 18	07-08-2006 13:23 For Raphael Rutherford - would you be interested in posting or allowing a look at your source code. Slfo.exe does not appear to be written in .Net, with all of that processor and memory overhead. I am still interested in making a widget for the Yahoo Widget Engine.
Draco18s Majestic Registered User Join date: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,744	07-08-2006 16:16 You should get together with this guy: /13/22/108293/1.html
Raphael Rutherford Resident Resident Join date: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 236	07-09-2006 04:31 Llauren: Sorry, it's a windows only app. However, it's pretty sinple and the parsing of the online firends is now much easier using the iframe version of the friends list, that Cornelius Linden tipped me about : http://secondlife.com/community/friends-iframe.php Craig: I will not publish the code at the moment, but have no problem explaning what was done. The code is written in MFC/C++. I found .NET to be way to complicated and bloated for this. I use CInternetSession and GetHttpConnection to fetch the friends page and parse it by simply loooking at the <td> and </td> tags. Coloring and text effects are set by comparing to the last list fetched and matching against the match list. I have made a new version that uses XML-RPC to communicate with an object in-world to get all sim stats and the visitors on your land. It can also do a regular sensor scan, and you can talk to/listen to people within chat range. You can also send IM's to any resident. And a lot more is possible, limited only (well, mostly) by the imagination. _____________________ Goodbye and thanks for all the prims.
Raphael Rutherford Resident Resident Join date: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 236	07-15-2006 14:24 Updated SLFO to version 1.3.0.1 to fix a few minor bugs. New version is available here . _____________________ Goodbye and thanks for all the prims.

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