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Announcing the $10,000 (USD) Linden Prize

Robin Linden
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11-10-2008 18:00
From: Toy LaFollette
hehehe of course Chris :) wait a min I am FIC LOL, but then its oldbies that are no longer wanted in SL ;)


Awww Toy, how can you say that!! :)
Shibari Twine
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11-10-2008 18:09
Would an entry on how to get your CEO to live up to his promises and interact with his customers in a virtual world be a valid proposition?

I see that some companies are having real problems with their communications, and well, SL should be good communications.

Maybe I should suggest how these CEO's should actually come into SL and look at the market.
Toy LaFollette
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11-10-2008 19:06
From: Robin Linden
Awww Toy, how can you say that!! :)


sorry Robin, I can say no more just got a warning.
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Rodders Holgado
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Meh
11-10-2008 19:10
Lindens,

We really dont care what you spend your overhead on. You have already costs us all thousands of dollars, and are dipping into our pockets again with this stupid $125 a month Open Space fee.

No one will be around come January we will all have been forced to leave, by you.

Enjoy unemployment.
Wynochee LeShelle
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May the best win!
11-10-2008 19:41
I only hope for any possible winner, that the money will come in one portion and without transaction-hickups. Not thinking about a maybe hidden clause, that it will be payed in portions like 1 L$ per day, or so... because it is around 2,6 Million L$... I go now counting, how long in years I would have to sit on an average camping chair for that... Friendly greetings from Vienna. We austrians are ever a bit crazy at late nights and especially while full moon actualy. Ahm, and the valuta zone in the upper right corner of the viewer is prepared for such a big number: 2600000 ?
Jesse Barnett
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11-10-2008 19:48
From: Toy LaFollette
sorry Robin, I can say no more just got a warning.

And here I was being nice and celebrating such a wonderful announcement. I understand the pain and indignation of the people hurt in the Open Spaces fiasco and could easily look past the posts which don't really have anything to do with the topic. I will still be around and anxiously wait to see who all is nominated and who the winner will be but whoever it is will you please get off your power trip and leave Toy alone? Fours years of contributing to both SL and to the forums should not be rewarded in such a manner.
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Bob Bunderfeld
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Katt, does ANYONE at Linden Lab actually work?
11-10-2008 20:33
I know, you think I'm being sarcastic and mean, but gosh I just need to ask that question.

Why you ask? Well, I was just perusing the Application Form, and checked it out, submitting what I thought was THE BEST on-going project ever, and noticed there's a BUG on the Application Submission page.

I would think, that whoever wrote these pages would have checked them, then his/her boss would have checked them, then his/her boss would have checked them, etc. IF this happened, I gotta say, you guys suck as seeing issues.

I really shouldn't tell you, but since you think I'm just being a sarcastic snob, I will. When going to the "Review Application" page, the Second Life Name isn't right. Instead you fill in the Real Name and the Second Life Name with the same variable.

Now, you see what I mean by catching the obvious?

Now you see why I say these guys suck?

I mean if you can't catch the simplest of errors, it's no wonder why SL is in such a mess.

Have a pleasant day, and oh BTW - Nice idea, but isn't it just another way to take an idea from a SL Resident and use it towards your own, "Bring Corporations to SL"? The $10K sure blinds a lot of people from seeing the obvious nature of this, but I see it for what it is, getting SL Residents to do your all's job, because apparently you can't think of any "good" ways to get Corporations into Second Life.

Let me tell you, it's not the fantastic projects SL Residents have going on that will bring more Corporations into SL, it's FIXING SL as a whole. If you Linden Lab employee's can't see that, then you "suck".
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Bob Bunderfeld
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11-10-2008 20:37
From: Robin Linden
Awww Toy, how can you say that!! :)



Maybe it's the way Linden Lab has chosen to NOT answer questions from us Old Timers and refuse any Communication what so ever.

Then again I could be wrong.......NOT
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11-10-2008 20:39
From: Robin Linden
Hi Vincent. The four months will be spent evaluating the applications. We're putting together a panel of judges and they'll need time to review and discuss the projects, and then agree on a winner.


Linden Lab Interpreter Initialized.....working.....computing.....done:

"But yes, it's our hope that everyone will forget the cruddy way we've treated everyone and will work for us, because we don't have any original ideas of our own."
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Bob Bunderfeld
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11-10-2008 20:42
From: Robin Linden
No Qie. We're looking for genuinely interesting, innovative projects that have made a difference in SL and have also made a difference to the real world. If anything I'm a little worried that we're too broad which might make it harder to judge. But we want to make sure that we are able to encourage a variety of applications.



Linden Lab Interpreter Initialized....computing....working.....done:

"Qie, we favor everyone and no one. We are asking everyone to do our work for us, because we just would rather work on projects more fun then this. Having SL Residents do this means we can spend more time being "OPEN and TRANSPARENT" in our communication."
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Bob Bunderfeld
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11-10-2008 20:45
From: Robin Linden
Wow Alf, that's pretty cynical. Mitch Kapor announced this prize a few months ago, and we've been planning it since. Any timing coincidence with the pricing announcement is just that -- a coincidence.



Linden Lab Interpreter Initialized.....working.....computing....done:

"Uh oh, you hit it on the head, better SPIN. Mitch Kapor is a always good to throw people off the track...Of course we are trying to divert everyone's attention....who wouldn't after the week we've had?"
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11-10-2008 21:06
I see a possibility of people trying to eliminate the competition with false abuse reports.
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11-10-2008 21:14
On a different note, LL says it uses SL in it's daily operations. What use can they make of SL is better than groupware that includes email, instant messaging, wikis, video chat, voice chat, application sharing, desktop sharing, etc.?
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Robin Linden
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11-10-2008 21:29
From: Bob Bunderfeld

I really shouldn't tell you, but since you think I'm just being a sarcastic snob, I will. When going to the "Review Application" page, the Second Life Name isn't right. Instead you fill in the Real Name and the Second Life Name with the same variable.


Thanks for the heads up Bob. We've already received a few applications, and they're coming in correctly. But you're right that there's a problem, so we're asking our web developer to make sure it's working correctly.

Robin
Windy Lurra
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11-10-2008 21:34
$10,000 -- I really would hate to be the avatar to win that. Can you imagine the # of intrusion attempts he or she is gonna get once the lucky winner is announced? :P
Digital Digital
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11-10-2008 21:37
Lol I'm sorry couldn't resist 10k lindens lol lol!
Everett Linden
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11-10-2008 21:50
From: Oryx Tempel
What Qie said. What if a project involves communities completely outside the realm of virtual worlds, but uses its resources to help those communities? I can think of several really neat charity drives that benefit world citizens who don't necessarily have access to clean drinking water, let alone a computer.


@67: See my earlier answer to Qie. The intent of the Prize is broad, not narrow. Without making a judgment on the quality of the projects you describe, if the project in world demonstrably and tangibly shows great results outside of Second Life, then they are eligible. The most important thing is to document that impact.
Everett Linden
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11-10-2008 21:58
From: Bob Bunderfeld

Why you ask? Well, I was just perusing the Application Form, and checked it out, submitting what I thought was THE BEST on-going project ever, and noticed there's a BUG on the Application Submission page.

I really shouldn't tell you, but since you think I'm just being a sarcastic snob, I will. When going to the "Review Application" page, the Second Life Name isn't right. Instead you fill in the Real Name and the Second Life Name with the same variable.


We have tested the form. I do not get the error you describe. Apparently, others have. Do you have any more info that would help describe the problem?

If you or others can describe more fully what your bug is, we'll test it.
Bob Bunderfeld
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11-10-2008 22:52
From: Katt Linden
A few hypothetical examples might help (note —any resemblance to real projects is unintentional)

1. An amazingly beautiful building inworld with kudos from Residents is a stronger candidate if the build was created as a training for disadvantaged adults to learn new computer skills.
2. An inworld opinion poll of Residents on a ballot initiative is a stronger candidate if it were tied to a voter registration campaign that resulted in thousands of new voters.
3. A prototype technology to help sight impaired people access Second Life is a stronger candidate if it is a working product that is helping hundreds of sight-impaired people create an international support community.
4. A research study into small group social behavior in Second Life is a stronger candidate if the research is published in a peer reviewed journal that advances that field of knowledge and demonstrates that Second Life is a legitimate platform for study.
5. An interactive sound and art project in Second Life is a stronger candidate if it is part of a live exhibition is recognized by the curator as advancing our understanding of art.
6. A community project in Second Life is a stronger candidate if the its leaders have trained community organizers on effective recruiting and retention practices.


http://lindenlab.com/lindenprize/faq



How about someone that's done New Resident Education for 5 1/2 years? Oh wait, that doesn't count, he's an Old Timer and you are trying to get us to leave SL.
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11-10-2008 22:55
From: Everett Linden
We have tested the form. I do not get the error you describe. Apparently, others have. Do you have any more info that would help describe the problem?

If you or others can describe more fully what your bug is, we'll test it.



Well gee Everett. You want me to just dig into the source code and tell you just what the problem is? How about you send me an employment contract first. I don't work for Linden Lab. I described the bug to detail, that anyone should be able to figure it out. If your "web developer" can't figure it out, then perhaps you need to find a new "web developer".
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11-10-2008 23:09
From: Bob Bunderfeld
Well gee Everett. You want me to just dig into the source code and tell you just what the problem is? How about you send me an employment contract first. I don't work for Linden Lab. I described the bug to detail, that anyone should be able to figure it out. If your "web developer" can't figure it out, then perhaps you need to find a new "web developer".

good job, wrong company, unless the pay is good i can`t do worse then your guy
heck, even upgrading a forum doesn`t take me 2 years :p
Broccoli Curry
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11-10-2008 23:28
Let's hope that companies like Rivers Run Red are excluded through a 'conflict of interest', as you're partnering with them to sell that 'immersive workspace' thing.

There's a lot more talent out there in smaller organisations and individuals that never get the recognition they deserve.
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Shai Khalifa
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11-11-2008 00:09
/me wonders if the 5 O'Clock Somewhere beach I've had for 2 years and which I have dozens and dozens of people who have told me how their RL life has changed thanks to that one place - would qualify.

Somehow I doubt it - I'm just one of the many in SL who created a space for thousands people to meet, hangout and that all-important - COMMUNICATE.

For anyone's interest, I get around 200 real live people through my sim each day as an average - not one camper or bot to be found - just real people...and that's been consistent for most of the 2 years. And I have a wonderful, loyal and growing membership of well over 1100 who all consider each other as friends.

Oh well, I get a huge satisfaction from knowing they enjoy the place and each other. I'm just sad that I'll have to reduce their play space by 2 OS sims in the next few weeks.
Innula Zenovka
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11-11-2008 00:32
From: Katt Linden
A few hypothetical examples might help (note —any resemblance to real projects is unintentional)


2. An inworld opinion poll of Residents on a ballot initiative is a stronger candidate if it were tied to a voter registration campaign that resulted in thousands of new voters.



http://lindenlab.com/lindenprize/faq
When this leads to me, a Brit, getting nagged by no end of robo-call bots, written by enterprising folk with an eye to this prizes, for my views on some proposal of interest only to American voters in their home state, I am going to be so cross.

From what my American friends have had to say about canvassing techniques in their recent elections, I don'[t think they'll be too amused either.

And when I start getting canvassed in a language I don't understand for my views on a domestic issue in a country where English isn't the main language....
Doubledown Tandino
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11-11-2008 02:48
Just curious, is this contest being used as a way for LL to receive a large pile of new creative inventions so LL can then continue to advance these ideas as their own?

Does every and all entry retain 100% ownership of the creator?

... we all know you cant copyright ideas..... so doesn't it seem sketchy to divulge many many ingenius ideas to LL. I'm hoping LL will scrap and forget about all of the countless inventions they receive.
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