Server 1.34 deploy

* Update @ 2009-12-10 12:30 - The odd sim roll is complete.
* Update @ 2009-12-09 07:31 - The even sim roll is complete.
* Update @ 2009-12-08 18:05 - The pilot roll is complete.
* Update @ 2009-12-08 10:45 - Centrals are complete.

Hi guys, time for another deploy!

Server 1.34 is scheduled for deployment starting next week. The schedule is:

* 2009-12-08, Tuesday, 7am - Deploy to Pilot sims[1] and central servers
* 2009-12-09, Wednesday, 7am - Deploy to even numbered[2] sims
* 2009-12-10, Thursday, 7am - Deploy to odd numbered[2] sims

This post will be updated when each roll starts, as well as at regular intervals (every ~25%) during the roll.

Beta release notes are available here:
http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Beta_Server/1.34

[1] https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Agni_Pilot_Regions
[2] In the viewer, go to Help -> About Second Life. Near the middle of the About window, you'll see text like: sim####.agni.lindenlab.com. That ### is your region's sim number.

Lil can we get the 2ed life planned outages back on the grid status page please?

Or maybe an answer as to why it was taken off?

because it would require LL to pay someone to do that. Heaven forbid. When most of the grid went down, the Status displayed Normal.... go figure. In the last year and a half, it has only been accurate once when there was a Grid issue. Some issues never make it to the Grid Status page.

I ran into this recently and had me scratching me head.. Glad to know I haven't lost it yet. Not in that one, particular case anyway..

/me inserts standard griping about SVC-4196/SVC-3895.

We've changed the way we manage our office's Google Calendars, which prevents us from putting it on the blog like we used to. I'll look into it and see if there's something we can do to work around the problem.

You need to correct the main and status blogs. You've put the 9th as a Thursday.

Lil Linden, how long is the duration of the restarts for half of the grid? You posted that it would start at 07:00 am PST. When will the expected operation last until?

You've put the 9th as a Thursday on the main and status blogs.

The dates on the main and status blog posts are incorrect:

2009-12-09, Thursday
2009-12-10, Wednesday
2009-12-11, Thursday

Yeah. The correct dates are...
2009.12.08-Tu (Tuesday)
2009.12.09-We (Wednesday)
2009.12.10-Th (Thursday)

can we have a fix for http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4196 before the last "residents" (in other words, users... you know, the people who enable you guys at LL to pay your bills) leave in disgust?

Babbage Linden is working on it. He tracked down the source of the problem, now he's trying to find why it's happening.

Ah! Me too!

...or maybe just a simple rollback to whatever version the grid was running around february 09... back then sim borders and teleports were way better.


... or at least a financial rollback, as in: refund everybody every dollar paid to LL since february!

Can someone at LL focus on things that are important to residents? Like the Show Stopper sim freeze that occurs whenever people TP in or out with scripted attachments, the failing TP's that occur for people with scripted attachments, the lack of tools for sim owners to identify poorly behaving scripted objects (need to know TOTAL CPU usage since rez / sim restart)...

The JIRA is full of nasty bugs that have been around "forever" yet are getting zero attention. Why?

Please ignore the white elephant in the room.

And please work at the 50% slower Sim-Performance at mainland sims with the new 8xxx and 9xxx servers. http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-5040
From one day to an other you reduced on many Mainland sims with that servers the performance of 50% as that new servers were added to the grid.
I bought it as it was fast, and was happy many months. But now i am on the way to give up my sims soon if all get more and more issues and the performance now slowed down by LL itself.
The Stopper sim freeze isse was gone at my sim because i optimized that i had spare time, but after that slowdown of that 8xxx and 9xxx servers its back now too, its a pain

Last I read, I though he had just found that it wasn't what he thought it was. Has something changed?

Uncontrol hand movement without myself seeing it (Bug) <--- i want to know if anyone has this problem... this is a serious bug that need to be fixed, since i don't see it in the beta rolling restart.

Anyway i hope this time again, this will fix the teleport problem, we are still getting the 0 kbps when a person enter and leave the sim.

(if you can't click on it, then copy the link)

It seems so.



http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Babbage_Linden/Office_Hours/2009_12_02

Come on LL... make resize scripts obsolete by splitting resize from modify in object permissions.

This is good news!!!


I don't think they can do that.. What Babbage is talking about, llSetLinkPrimParamsNoDelay, should make the real ugly aspect of those scripts far less painful, though.

Good to hear some issues are being taken care of, but there's still a big issue that no Linden has even responded to. I've even emailed a Linden directly about this issue, no response and it's been 2 months.

I'm talking of course about MISC-3088 ( http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-3088 ). Right now, the source code is always saved along side the byte code on the asset server when you compile a script. This makes it very convenient for hackers who find exploits because it allows them to modify our scripts, and do things such as remove security features from our products allowing them to resell the products giving absolutely no profit to the original creator. It also allows them to hack into vendor/update networks, and enable people to acquire products without having to pay for them.

This even happened very recently, October 3rd (Several popular products including my own were made full permissions), and still not a single response on the Jira.

MISC-3088 will allow scripters to save the byte code locally on their computers, that way when someone hacks the scripts in your products, they cannot read or modify them, thus ensuring product security. It's a very simple system, and in fact SL once had this ability via the PAR plugins by LGG, until LL removed the feature. ( http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-4528 )

(I'm getting the feeling that the Lindens are thinking "I'm not touching that with even a 60ft stick!" - Even though the issue was triaged almost 6 months ago)

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PS: To those who are discussing the challenges with resize scripts. I believe something like llSetMultiLinkPrimitiveParams() would do the job. It would work just like llSetPrimitiveParams, except each command would have a target prim. IE: llSetMultiLinkPrimitiveParams([PRIM_SIZE,1,<2,2,2>,PRIM_SIZE,30,<2,2,2>,PRIM_POSITION,4,<0,0,1>]); - I'm not sure if the different list structure would make it possible or not, but it's worth a Linden looking into it. (This function would probably have to have a longer cool down time, but would change the parameters of all of the specified prims in one frame)

If your PC esploded and you had to reinstall the world, or if you just went to a different PC, would fixing this bug mean that you'd have no access to the source code any more?

If so, /me votes, loudly and repeatedly, no.

edit: IIRC, Lindens in god mode have the ability to look at scripts in objects that they don't own. This, while a little scary, is probably very useful to Governance Linden.

Same thing can happen when you're working with other codes like C++, or even PHP/HTML (If your server crashes). That's why you always backup your work. (Data storage is very cheap now. 50$ can get you a portable hard disk with usually about 250gb+, or a 4gb+ flash drive)

Anyways, MISC-3088 wouldn't completely change the way scripts are saved, if that was so, then OpenSource projects in LSL would be broken. MISC-3088 would only add the ability to save scripts locally if chosen by the scripter. That way important scripts, like web interface scripts and so on could be protected from source code theft.

There's also been several other suggestions in MISC-3088 on how to prevent Source Code theft, one that I suggested would keep the Lindens ability to read scripts, and keep them safe from exploits.

I believe God Mode was exploited too very recently. (Around the time of the Oct.3 incident)


PS: If scripts could be saved locally, then it would also help prevent you losing your work due to sim crashes and asset server failure.

It seems the entire 26 Sim Enterprise, Utopia Portugal I thru XXVI is down. Cannot get home. Any idea of what has happened?