Rolling Restart for 1.25.0, 2008 Nov 12 and 17-18

There are places to vent, and they aren't here. Please, everybody, stop the meta-conversation about whether or not it's OK to just attack, to rant, and whether or not it's my solemn duty to sit here and respectfully listen to it. It's off topic here.

toybodacho -- there is a bouncing effect with the camera that's been around for some time, and that has been fixed in 1.25. It happens when the you have your back to a wall and try to position the camera such that it gets confused about where the wall is. Generally it's not to hard to trigger in fairly claustrophobic builds. Although 1.25 isn't anywhere on agni yet, you can try logging in to aditi, where there are both sims on 1.24 and on 1.25, to test things out. See http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Preview_Grid

Prospero, this group invite thing has me puzzled. When I go to invite a person, for most AV names it works fine. But for a few, when you open the people chooser, the name you are searching for shows up, but when you highlight it and click Select, nothing happens. The name will not appear in the selected list.

Opening an IM to that same person shows a blank tab at the bottom of the IM window, instead of showing the name. I don't know if the person receives the IM or not.

Also, occasionally when sending or receiving L$, sometimes the name of the avatar I am paying or receiving payment from is missing.

I think all three of these are probably related, and started at the same time you bounced the central servers. I was also one of the residents affected by the recent asset server maintenance, so it could even be related to that.

Is this something you knew about and are working on? Thanks.

EDIT: A little more info. I just discovered the person I cannot invite is already in the group, but the name in my group member list is blank for that resident. It took some detective work to figure out who it is, and it turns out to be the one I was trying to invite.

Triple -- if these are problems that are new with 1.25, please let me know... if not, either contact support, or file a JIRA.

Earlier, you mentioned a problem with a dialogue title... does that still happen? Can you reproduce the problem in a "Second Life Beta Server" region (running 1.25) on aditi? If so, please file a JIRA on it, and let me know the number of the JIRa. if there really is a problem there, we'll need a repro so that we can find it.

The bouncing effect to which I am referring is a new one to me. It happens when I try to zoom in on an object by using <ALT> or <ALT><CTRL> and the mouse. As I zoom in, the camera starts 'bouncing' in a weird way, and if I keep zooming, it goes berzerk and does a 180 on me, and I end up looking at the other side of the object. I have had something similar happen when trying to zoom in or out on objects with a certain degree of transparency or that are in motion, but this is something else.

I was already aware of the other bouncing effect while standing with your back close to a wall or object. This is different.

I really don't know if the current problems are related to the 1.25 deploy, or the central server update, or the asset server update. They all happened about the same time.

The dialog title problem went away when the sim was reverted to 1.24. I noticed a deeded object did not have that title problem in 1.25. I will try to repro it on aditi, but I won't be able to test the deeded object there, unless there is some group owned land there I can deed objects to.

EDIT: I went to a V1.25 region in aditi but could not reproduce the bug, either with LSL or Mono compiled scripts. But the problem in agni persists: Certain names (right now I know of only 1 for sure) will show a blank tab in the IM window, and a blank name in my group member list. There are a few other names I noticed show as blank in the payment windows. If these are not known issues I will file a support ticket or a JIRA, whichever you think is best.

Actually... seems everything is down now. Homepage, logins, etc...

The camera bounce thing has been around for quite sometime.....

Stand inside a hollowed prim set of say 20x20 (mulitple 10x10 prims) and then focus your view on a prim inside, use ALT mouse zoom... its like there are invisible prims surrounding you... camera jumps all around the prim you are trying to zoom in on. Same effect with using Camera controls... I'm not talking up against any walls.. I'm talking being right in the middle of these prims.

Still no reply to the http thing causing multiple spams of the media texture holder issue.. highest amount of spams in one single click of the play button was 16.

The HTTP issue was only with 1.25 server, all regions were reverted to 1.24 after a couple hours. So unless the script was confused during the restarts then it's an unrelated issue. Especially if your region was not part of the pilot rollout. I don't use parcel media so I'm not sure if it's a common issue after the central server updates last week or not. If it's an isolated object/region, have you tried resetting the scripts?

Yes many times, it is the same whether using land media or the Silver Stream systems. It is also grid wide as I float about installing systems for our clients and revisit existing systems.
It is perhaps more noticeable when the play button is pressed, the texture turns grey for a second or two, then goes black as you freeze to the spot. Looking at the Ctrl+Shift+4 report shows the texture placeholder being sent to your client between 4-16 times. None of this happened up until a few weeks ago, the texture would turn black straight away and the movie stream within a few seconds.
More and more people have been telling me they cannot see movies.

This is not related to our movies, we use the same templates for production that we have used for nearly two years without any issues. Using compressed headers with 5 codec signatures installed, wrapped with a passive codec to ensure good quality with small overheads. The vast majority of movies streamed will load the client rendering pipelines by between 50-90% loading, our movies with the same, if not better quality, only load between 25-30% due to the way we prepare them.

The movie problem looks like a viewer issue, seeing it with 1.21 but not 1.19.0

OK, the inevitable question....

Is there a JIRA on the movie issue? If not, please make one in VWR.

Is there a JIRA on the camera issue AWM describes? If so, please make one in SVC. (Put in your description from here too, so we can repro.)

The camera thing is http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-6714 - one of the ones I'm waiting for in 1.25..

Hurry up, Prospero!!!

I think AWM is showing us different camera issue. More to do with ALT left clicking the cam away from the AV.

Prospero, I sent you an object on the beta grid, that for me, reproduces what AWM is describing.

Stand inside it and ATL left click any inside face. In this case my camera races to the outside of the cube. I think its related to what AWM is seeing.

Just chiming in to say that I'm still seeing this one too (name missing from payment drop-downs from certain avatars), on my alt, who was *not* affected by the recent asset/inventory server maintenance. I also thought it started pretty much exactly at the time the central servers were updated for the 1.25 deploy.

I was too optimistic.

I'm not starting the pilot roll yet, and am still at least an hour out from starting it

The pilot roll is now going

Pilot roll done

Sofar everything on kitten house appears to be working, no http errors yet

Funny I should read this here. I noticed this happening early one morning late last week and it did not repeat itself until this morning. I took a print screen of it ....

And nothing has changed, it is still doing it after the latest central server update and pilot roll. I don't think it is random, it seems to be happening only with specific avatar names.

Lindens

ever thought of a 'not available' notice on the log-in screen?

Oh you used too..................

so do it now -would have saved me 1/2 an hour wasted time.

errmm....cant connect because possibly my "computer clock is set wrong"....aww come on SL...wth...rolls eyes

A grid status "OFFLINE" should be great ... actualy

Is there a relation between the server deploy and the login issue or is it just a coincidence?

Prospero, the calendar thingy on the grid status page says the 1.25 rollout is going to continue on December 1st.

Just FYI.. Dunno if that was intentional or not.