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Brenda Connolly
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06-01-2007 22:50
Anybody looked this guy up in world?
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Naomi Hanson
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06-01-2007 23:19
yuppers he's a furry,
so he's preaching against himself. Not only for that reason but he also has a woman showing cleavage standing next to him in his profile picture.
Coujo Thatch
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06-02-2007 04:18
From: Naomi Hanson
yuppers he's a furry,
so he's preaching against himself. Not only for that reason but he also has a woman showing cleavage standing next to him in his profile picture.


the irony is so delicious, is it not?
Ceejay Harvey
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06-02-2007 06:25
I hope this is Irony I really do.
Jumpman Lane
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Run Tell That!!!!
06-02-2007 07:08
I've Already Set Up A Group To Oppose The Very Silly, Pernicious Machinations Of The Proposed GROUP To Be Founded By Stick In The Muds...

It's Called Slut! Magazine!!!! Search It Up In World!

I, Jumpman Lane Leap Upon The Barricades Of Free Speech...
Porn, Packaged-dealed With Kiddie -porn (that Which All Law-abiding Decent People Oppose) Porn Is Always The First Target Of The Crytpo-nazi Censors...

(this Is Not An Attack But A Fact...Nazi's Were Facist And This Is Facism).


I Personally Will Not Abide Informers Lurking Around Each And Every Corner Here In Second Life....

I'm Going Straight Of Now To The Linden Village To Talk To A Linden To See What A Linden Has To Say Aboout Such Ideas!


Snitch Run And Tell Them That!!!!!
Brenda Connolly
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06-02-2007 09:19
From: Jumpman Lane
I've Already Set Up A Group To Oppose The Very Silly, Pernicious Machinations Of The Proposed GROUP To Be Founded By Stick In The Muds...

It's Called Slut! Magazine!!!! Search It Up In World!

I, Jumpman Lane Leap Upon The Barricades Of Free Speech...
Porn, Packaged-dealed With Kiddie -porn (that Which All Law-abiding Decent People Oppose) Porn Is Always The First Target Of The Crytpo-nazi Censors...

(this Is Not An Attack But A Fact...Nazi's Were Facist And This Is Facism).


I Personally Will Not Abide Informers Lurking Around Each And Every Corner Here In Second Life....

I'm Going Straight Of Now To The Linden Village To Talk To A Linden To See What A Linden Has To Say Aboout Such Ideas!


Snitch Run And Tell Them That!!!!!


He he..Jumpman, you are crude, rude , and obnoxious. And I love it! You know what you want and are not apologizing or rationalizing it. Are you Larry Flynt in RL by anychance?
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Jumpman Lane
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06-02-2007 09:57
I'm not larry flint...but he's a role model!
Elanthius Flagstaff
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06-02-2007 10:08
Come on, this is ridiculous. You don't need to ban all women from SL. Just the cute blondes. That will be quite sufficient to quell any dangerously unsafe behaviours on my part at least.
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Lyn Mimistrobell
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06-02-2007 11:16
Taking women off of the grid won't help... You'll find men having sex with eachother as the perverts that they are ^.-

To prevent those "broadly offensive" acts... the only real solution is to stop avi's from animating or even moving. I know LL can do it - quite often I find myself unable to move.

And the chat lag... that is really a filtering mechanism. If you find your chat not coming thru, you probably said something that was offensive to someone in the world.

I'm sure we can save a lot of computerpower and engine bugs if we replace the current SL viewer with a textbased viewer. Filter out all the dirty words from chat (any word in any language that can be considered dirty) and you'll have a safe grid.

Lyn

PS: To LL and other idiots not getting the point... yes, this is sarcasm.
Alisha Lioncourt
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This is sad
06-02-2007 12:10
Geez, all these zealots.... LL needs to quit mettling into the residents behaviors.. Yes certain content should be banned(child porn). But avatar sex, roleplaying, and clothing and just language in general, geez pretty soon they will take all manners of rights from us.. This is an online game, where us the residents can make it what we want, THIS ISNT REAL LIFE!!!!! If I wanted to play nice, I would switch to another game that has no freedom to express your thoughts. Ive been in SL for almost 3 yrs under another avatar, and Ive never seen so much crap from people who think its their mission to impose their religious views to an online game as this.. If you want no nudity head to a PG sim and build a church or something.. Crap.. damn religious zealots in an online game... Sad, LL is listening to them and of course making money off of us in the meantime..
Ginger DeSantis
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thanks for what?
06-02-2007 12:32
:( after reading all these posts..........I realize that you are right Ramo. I am indeed to be condemned. When I first came to SL, I didn't take my duties seriously. I am a grown woman........and I acted comeplete irresponsibly, I should apologize to all the ppl that I have interacted with. I came here, joyfully, and willfully to have fun. I didn't act like i do in real life at all. In fact, I was the complete opposite. I was outgoing, fun, flippant, even flirty! I have worn revealing clothes...what was I thinking??? I will place my order for the burkas right away....As a woman, I bow down before your superior intelligence Ramo.....mutters something under breath......nvm.... ok, let me get this straight, I have to be the same person here, that I am in real life? Why am I even here? Somebody needs to get a grip on reality and Second Life isn't where your gonna find it!
Ramo Benedek
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only trying to help make it safer...
06-02-2007 12:54
what you need to understand is that even freedom of speech has limits.

So does freedom of thought, and expression to one another.

Since SL is a community, we all have an obligation to make sure that it is 'safe' for all of the participants. For instance, I am sure that if I was to approach you, and say to you, "I kiss you passionatly and deeply as I look deeply into your eyes, and stroke your bare shoulders, and love your dress and the way your breasts feel against my chest", that may be a kind of thought that would be quite offensive to you.

There would be nothing you would be able to say or do to avoid that first solicitation from me. And if it were not offensive to you, then that may offend others in the community, so it would be as equally offensive since I would have no way of knowing that you may be offended by such statements or thoughts.

Knowing that there has been an effort made to assure the community that all here have reached the age of consent, there is still the issue to consider of what is 'offensive' to one, may in fact not be to another.

If I said that I wanted to pretend to be a 15 year old boy, and you wanted to pretend to be a 43 year old woman, even though we both knew we were adults in RL, and only acting out a fantasy in private, then it would be offensive to some in the community.

Therefore I state that my original suggestion of banning women from adult areas of SL, and making them cover themselves would only make SL a safer place for all.

This way there would not be the onus of reporting upon all residents in the adult grid in SL, thus making it a less expensive place to maintain and manage.

In fact, if private chats were completely eliminated, it would not only make SL 'safe', but in fact assure the residents that no disgusting behaviour such as 'rape-roleplay' would ever take place.

SL is not a democracy, it is in fact an anarchy. And as in any anarchy, we should listen to the the one's that want to make it 'safe' for all. In other words, "Some are more equal than others". --- a thought from a book that I am sure most have read.
Brenda Connolly
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06-02-2007 13:22
Goddamn he is Good! How does he keep it up? *Raises hand* Sir, if I may this girl would like to ask a question? Once all of us females are thankfully placed out of harm's way, will the other 10,000 men portraying women be allowed to stay?
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Malachi Petunia
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06-02-2007 13:37
From: Ramo Benedek
what you need to understand is that even freedom of speech has limits. So does freedom of thought...

In other words, "Some are more equal than others". --- a thought from a book that I am sure most have read.
Freedom of thought has limits? Interestingly, that theme was addressed in another book by the _very_same_ author. Orwell was a political satirist; that's different from a troll.
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Rusty Satyr
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06-02-2007 14:15
From: Jumpman Lane
I've Already Set Up A Group To Oppose The Very Silly, Pernicious Machinations Of The Proposed GROUP To Be Founded By Stick In The Muds...

It's Called Slut! Magazine!!!! Search It Up In World!

I, Jumpman Lane Leap Upon The Barricades Of Free Speech...
Porn, Packaged-dealed With Kiddie -porn (that Which All Law-abiding Decent People Oppose) Porn Is Always The First Target Of The Crytpo-nazi Censors...

(this Is Not An Attack But A Fact...Nazi's Were Facist And This Is Facism).


I Personally Will Not Abide Informers Lurking Around Each And Every Corner Here In Second Life....

I'm Going Straight Of Now To The Linden Village To Talk To A Linden To See What A Linden Has To Say Aboout Such Ideas!


Snitch Run And Tell Them That!!!!!


Everytime I see someone cap every word in a post, I assume they've hidden a secret message in it. Let's see what yours says:

I'ASUAGTOTVS,PM
OTPGROUPTBFBSITM...
I'CS!M!!!!SIUIW!
I,JLLUTBOFS...
P,P-WK-(WAL-D
PO)PIATFTOTC-C...
(INAABAF...N'WFATIF).
IPWNAILAEAEC
HISL....
I'GSONTTLVTTTALTS
WALHTSASI!
SRATTT!!!!

How lewd.
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Wolfstanus Blackmun
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06-02-2007 14:24
The word lewd is offensive to me. Im going to go emo over it *sarcasm*
Jumpman Lane
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06-02-2007 14:44
From: Rusty Satyr
Everytime I see someone cap every word in a post, I assume they've hidden a secret message in it. Let's see what yours says:

I'ASUAGTOTVS,PM
OTPGROUPTBFBSITM...
I'CS!M!!!!SIUIW!
I,JLLUTBOFS...
P,P-WK-(WAL-D
PO)PIATFTOTC-C...
(INAABAF...N'WFATIF).
IPWNAILAEAEC
HISL....
I'GSONTTLVTTTALTS
WALHTSASI!
SRATTT!!!!

How lewd.


that's all you took out of that ...when the censors have you goosesteping to next ballroom dance in a sim sans women...maybe you'll find a hidden message in that?

and to all the power lusting censors who believe that there limits to a man's rights ANY of his right's I ask you by what right? by what standard? I am an American...no where in my culture, in my upbringing is the sense or belief that my natural right have limits imposed by any of my fellow me...i'd march over a billion corpses before i gave my saction, my consent to that...you fear some possible offense...prepare to be offended! the war is on!
it's gonna be jumpy lane coming to you from all outlets raw!!!! it's MY world...My imagination..and for the thousandth time..you don't like that...you're offended by that...you better run weak sauce!
Ramo Benedek
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my point exactly....
06-02-2007 15:04
From: Brenda Connolly
Goddamn he is Good! How does he keep it up? *Raises hand* Sir, if I may this girl would like to ask a question? Once all of us females are thankfully placed out of harm's way, will the other 10,000 men portraying women be allowed to stay?



Since the women in SL is protected from the nefarious obscene thoughts of the men, or a woman acting as a man, then no harm will come to the innocent non thinking woman participant.

The real issue here, as posted in the official LL blog is to keep it safe for everyone, keep it safe together, and for any participant to report to the LL authorites acts which are deemed obscene, or lewd by the reporter.

It is not a concept of depicting roleplaying 'rapeplay', or 'ageplay'. It is a concept on limiting exchange of fantasies and thoughts among participants. Even though SL is a virtual world that is created by the participants imaginations and creativity, it is still a world where if I hear anothers expressed thought it could be quite damaging to me, or some other participant in the virtual world.

Imagine if someone were to state to me that the United States really did achieve a lunar landing, and that if I knew in my heart that this was not only impossible, but in fact never happened, I would most certainly discount and disregard such a statement as nothing but offensive and disruptive.

I would have to bring this to the community, (i would have no choice), and for the betterment of the community suggest they be banned, necklaced, and burned at the stake.

If I did not act within my obligations and percieved principals, then I would be remiss in my duty to the entire community.

After all, they were practicing what would be obvious witchcraft by saying that there is a way to actually make a lunar landing and return to our pretty unique Earth where we all know that things need to be nice.

There are simple and easily implemented solutions to such behaviour... banning, burning, ruining of lives, etc. That creates an easily used deterrent.

In fact intraocular lobotomies would actually solve the entire sex offender problem. It would also solve the problem if anyone who may be deemed to possibly be a sex offender is thankfully removed from their own thoughts, and allowed to continue in society as a productive and submissive citizen. Walter Freeman, (who won the nobel prize for his work), pioneerd such an insightful method of eliminating these terrible kind of thoughts.

So my suggestion is to segregate groups of RL people that want to congregate, and inflict thier warped way of thinking upon other easily suaded participants. Keep races seperate, keep gender seperate, keep furries and humans seperate, keep political views seperate, keep secual orientation seperate, keep human and furry seperate.

Allow no fantasy 'talk' in the virtual fantasy world, and that way there is no exploitation of children or naive adults.

AND in that way, it will be safer for the community.

oh, and Brenda,, if any man is found to be portraying a woman, than he should immediatly be banned because homosexuality is not only evil, but patently offensive to to the better of us in our virtual community.
Brenda Connolly
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06-02-2007 15:18
I am so subscribing to this thread...... :cool:
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Draco18s Majestic
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06-02-2007 15:40
http://xkcd.com/c258.html

I think by posting this in responce to two threads now I have created The XKCD Law: as soon as someone mentions something that is considered "conspiracy theory" they lose.
Ambria Kohl
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for the sake of debate...
06-02-2007 17:00
From: Ramo Benedek
what you need to understand is that even freedom of speech has limits.

So does freedom of thought, and expression to one another.


I don't want to listen to you jibber on.. does this mean you have outstepped my "limits"? ;)

From: someone
Since SL is a community, we all have an obligation to make sure that it is 'safe' for all of the participants. For instance, I am sure that if I was to approach you, and say to you, "I kiss you passionatly and deeply as I look deeply into your eyes, and stroke your bare shoulders, and love your dress and the way your breasts feel against my chest", that may be a kind of thought that would be quite offensive to you.


Simple solution to that.. *points to the mute button* And if you "see" something visually that you don't like... go someplace else, most likely, you're not wanted there either.

From: someone
There would be nothing you would be able to say or do to avoid that first solicitation from me. And if it were not offensive to you, then that may offend others in the community, so it would be as equally offensive since I would have no way of knowing that you may be offended by such statements or thoughts.


Yeesh.. you couldn't find your way out of a wet paper sack... Ignore the comment, mute, and get on with your (second) life!

From: someone
Knowing that there has been an effort made to assure the community that all here have reached the age of consent, there is still the issue to consider of what is 'offensive' to one, may in fact not be to another.


Now you're starting to think outside the box. :D

From: someone
If I said that I wanted to pretend to be a 15 year old boy, and you wanted to pretend to be a 43 year old woman, even though we both knew we were adults in RL, and only acting out a fantasy in private, then it would be offensive to some in the community.


I agree to an extent on ageplay. However to me, there is a huuuuuuge difference between a highschooler (15, 16, 17.. you choose) having sex with a 43 year old person vs. an 8 year old having sex with a 43 year old. If you find teenagers getting aroused offensive... never watch Japanese anime. :P

From: someone
Therefore I state that my original suggestion of banning women from adult areas of SL, and making them cover themselves would only make SL a safer place for all.

This way there would not be the onus of reporting upon all residents in the adult grid in SL, thus making it a less expensive place to maintain and manage.


Um... isn't this a form of segregation in the making? Next thing you know, we'll have separate grids for men and women.. then division based on class! "Oh, you're a furry? Here.. you have to stay on this grid.. You're a human? You go here... Not sure what you are? Tough shit... *ban*" I can see it now...

From: someone
In fact, if private chats were completely eliminated, it would not only make SL 'safe', but in fact assure the residents that no disgusting behaviour such as 'rape-roleplay' would ever take place.


Guess what hon.. you can't sensor what I say in private chat because it's just that PRIVATE chat. This calls for the elementary school saying "This is an AB conversation so why don't you "C" your way out of it?"

From: someone
SL is not a democracy, it is in fact an anarchy. And as in any anarchy, we should listen to the the one's that want to make it 'safe' for all. In other words, "Some are more equal than others". --- a thought from a book that I am sure most have read.


Anarchy is chaos and lawlessness. If SL was as anarchic as you think it is.. we'd have little kids raping donkeys on the sidewalks outside the Quikie Mart.

"Some are more equal than others"? Guess what, that makes it pretty obvious that you are very egotistical and obviously want to oppress others and push your ideals upon the world. Don't try pushing your twisted opinions on me and I won't push mine upon you. Wanna have a go? Bring it.

----

Now then... I'm usually a peaceful individual with a live and let live persona however this really irked me. I do have a proposition I submitted to Robin that is a decent compromise to both groups - those who want to be in a world without "broadly offensive" content and those who either honestly don't care or like it.

In other words, until we are forced into a oppressed, communistic virtual world... *throws off her shirt and jiggles her goodies* BURN THE BRA!!! erm.. I mean... free love for all? That too.. *thinks* I know! DON'T TREAD ON ME!

Edit: fixed it from 48 to 43 cause of glare on my screen. LOL
Ramo Benedek
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for the sake of us all....
06-02-2007 17:48
did you really think i was serious?
ASCIIrider Hailey
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06-02-2007 17:50
Hmmmmm this furry spouts out al lthis BUT..... the ONLY pick is for the "Bermuda Triangel where he's also a group memeber...... and their charter says....

Get lost in *The Bermuda Triangle*, a great new Club where you can leave your troubles at the door.

The Bermuda Triangle offers a fun, and exciting time. Escorts, Strippers, Themed rooms, Sploder, and much more.

C'mon now how serious could he be? if he were he'd be a hypocrite
Ambria Kohl
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06-02-2007 17:57
You're not serious?! *dies laughing* Ohmigod, I love you!!! Can I hump your leg or you hump mine? LOL! :D
Brenda Connolly
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06-02-2007 18:17
From: Ramo Benedek
did you really think i was serious?

Amazingly a lot of them did. I'm totally bummed out you gave yourself up. You had me on the edge of my seat. You are the Master. *This girl bows at your greatness.*
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