When did age play become illegal?

I have no interest in changing your personal opinion, and from what I can see nobody has launched a personal attack against you. People are challenging your opinions because that's what happens when you engage in a debate. If you're not here for the debate but to say "it's like this and you're all unreasonable for even questioning me," well, I apologise for wasting your time.

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for some Vampirism is a way of life and not RP at all

Nothing, I repeat nothing can compare to sexual age-play. No, I didn't bring it up.. I responded to the original post in this thread who made a comparison that pissed me off... because there is NO comparison... NONE. Anything involving children sexually whether it be role play or not is sick and demented beyond anything else that I know of.

Yes I feel and so do many others feel that sexual age-play is twisted and leads to sexual child abuse and yes that will harm children. Anything representative of sex with kids harms them indirectly whether others realize it or not and it should not be tolerated. It leads to more.. RP is not enough.. it's like a drug for them.. a dark sickness of the mind.

Even so, legal experts said such virtual behavior between adults isn't likely to break the law, since there are no real children involved.

"It would not be (illegal) under child pornography laws because no actual child was used in the act," said Jack Balkin, a professor of constitutional law at Yale Law School and an expert on legal issues surrounding virtual worlds. "Child pornography laws receive special treatment under the First Amendment because children are sexually abused and people traffic in the results of that abuse." This does not apply in the age-play situation, he said.

But does pretending predict real-life pedophilia? One psychologist isn't so sure.

It may be a red flag if someone--say an adult male playing an adult male engaged in play with a young female avatar--is repeatedly playing the role sexually aggressing a child in the game," said Joy Davidson, a certified sex therapist and author of "Fearless Sex." "I would be concerned about someone who is continually choosing to play the role of someone sexually aggressing a child."

But Davidson said most other cases--the person playing a young girl avatar, or someone only trying out the role of the adult male engaging in digital sexual activity with a child avatar, for example--could well be the behavior of people fantasizing about their own times as a sexually active teen.

Yes I feel and so do many others feel that sexual age-play is twisted and leads to sexual child abuse and yes that will harm children.

Nothing, I repeat nothing can compare to sexual age-play.

Mickey, I think I just answered the question.. read the post above you. Nothing, I repeat nothing can compare to sexual age-play. No, I didn't bring it up.. I responded to the original post in this thread who made a comparison that pissed me off... because there is NO comparison... NONE. Anything involving children sexually whether it be role play or not is sick and demented beyond anything else that I know of.

At this point we are basically just repeating ourselves. Nothing else new to say. Have a nice day all.. Once again, thank you Linden Lab for helping to stamp out sexual age-play in virtual reality.


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oh guess I could have put my reponse to this issue in this thread.
Well firstly the whole age play is just weird to me, if people want to relieve thier childhood or re create a happy childhood or something like that or even live sl from childhood to adult hood that I could slightly understand but why do so many child avis hang out in clubs and adult establishments thats not role playing a child its just odd and even sick.
But regarding this age verification thing that is just plain annoying and making many suffer for the actions of a few, but not only that it won't work or do anything other than lose both SL and adult themed clubs and products in SL customers.

Age verification won't stop pedos selling child porn because those selling and dealing in child porn are adults so how is age verification going to put a stop to that?
And age verification won't stop those role playing child sex since those doing that are also adults. the only thing that will stop that is to disallow the child avi making option age verification won't do that or do anything other than lose business for sl and sl adult themed clubs and products.

Also has it occured to anyone that it makes more sense to have an age verification system on teen sl not on adult sl if the main concern is pedos? since most real pedos will want to head straight for teen sl not adult sl?
I really hope the powers that be get some sense and scrap the whole age verification idea and instead either remove the child avi creating option or set up a police force to catch those dealing in child related sexual activities instead of going through with a system that is just freedom restricting inconvient a form of privacy invasion and will lose both SL and many in SL world business and products customers.

Second Life, aka. zweites Leben, so it is called, the nice new world on the internet. In which you and I can also become citizens.

Today there are more than 6 million registered inhabitants and this grows daily. Second Life is especially liked by us Germans. Finally, to be able to live the life as it is not possible for us in the real world. Fascinating. Of course big enterprises have quickly discovered Second Life for themselves, and also there is an employment office, this was built by Germans.

However, Second Life also attracts the bad. There are weapons, harassment and as Thomas Dauser and Nick Schader have found out, child pornography. And this in a magnitude that it itself already throws hard-boiled public prosecutors for a loop.

Only a few mouse clicks are necessary and your own avatar is created. Then everything is possible, in the second, in the virtual life. Vacation by the sea, nightlife in the city, shopping in noble shops. And everybody wants to be present, in the nice new world. Even the land Baden-Wurttemberg has recently created a representation here.

Second Life, a better world? We go in to the virtual second life. A children's playground in Second Life. A man goes up to a small girl, she responds.

"Will you cuddle a little bit?"
"May I give you a kiss? You decide where."
"My sweet little girl."

The man gives the child money, which equates to a few euros, she takes it. What happens then, is shocking. REPORT MAINZ documents for the first time that players meet in Second Life to abuse children virtually.

Trauma therapist Lutz Ulrich Besser has looked after sexually ill-treated children for many years. We show him the scenes from Second Life.

"It is just staggering. It is just staggering, and if then one imagines that there, behind these avatars stand real people who still control, so to speak, these figures and the orders, and that what happens there as sexual exploitation and degradation, then they are effectively instructions for sexual exploitation, for sexual crimes against children. "

There are places in Second Life which are peppered with fetishes of the child porn scene. A children's room, a girl with white dress, with a bow. Pedophiles pretend the abuse of children here. If possible hundreds of times one after the other. In doing so, scientific studies show that such play scenes burn themselves into the brain. The pedophile's inhibition shrinks, not only in play, but also in real life.

"It opens the door, while still being hidden so to speak, to essentially practice action-leading patterns behind a virtual person in these Chatrooms or in these Second Life virtual worlds. And thereby to find ever easier victims. That is, it is, so to speak, a playful preparation to be a victim. And a playful preparation to become a culprit."

The pedo-scene has been informed for a long time. An internet forums, where German pedophiles post, also about Second Life. One writes:

"Porn on which one himself can have an influence. That's what it would be anyway."

This is what it seems like in Second Life. In a house we observe how a 13-year-old girl is violated several times one after the other. Other players watch.

Upper public prosecutor Peter Vogt is one of the most successful penal pursuers in the matter of child pornography. For the first time he sees the photos from Second Life of REPORT MAINZ.

"I simply lack the words. And this explicitness. Besides, it it doesn't matter whether these are fictive events or real events. The fact of the matter of a child abuse must be fulfilled objectively anyway. This offering is a child-pornographic offering according to paragraph 184 b, section 1."

Meanwhile upper public prosecutor Vogt has activated the Federal Criminal Police Office. He wants to the operator of Second Life to come on.

Here it is programmed, the supposedly healthy world of Second Life. San Francisco, Linden Lab. There were already manifestations of child pornography, admits the vice-president.

"This has happened, a few times during the past four years."

Linden Labs has banned the individual players. Friedemann Schindler is not content with it. He leads the protection of children and young people authority for Internet and says: It would easily be possible to prevent child pornography in the virtual world.

"Earlier the operators of such virtual worlds were also called gods. Because they can put rules just like gods and can implement their wishes in the program. Linden Labs would simply have to prevent all possibilities of sexual abuse, while they simply program their world in such a way that, for example, sexual contact is not possible between children and adults. "

Instead of this countless pedophiles have set up in Second Life. During our searches a player from Germany speaks to us. He sends us pictures, gruesome pictures. REPORT MAINZ shows them shows them to the operating company of Second Life.

"These are real children. These are no avatars."

Girls, ill-treated and abused. Photos in Second Life, accessible to all. And the operators? Apparently unaware.

"I hope, whoever has found these pictures, gives us more information about that. We will find out who lies behind and then inform the police."

On grounds of the searches of REPORT MAINZ upper public prosecutor Vogt immediately initiates preliminary proceedings.

"We will will try to make this person notable. Should we manage this, the person has to count on a penal procedure because of third possession providing of child pornography, and this criminal offense continuance is punished with a term imprisonment of three months up to five years."

For the first time it is determined to be criminal in the matter of child pornography and Second Life. However, the virtual world grows further, day by day. In the meantime, Second Life has more than six million players.

If the operator company of Second Life does not gain control of the problem immediately, the downfall of this nice new world is marked. The announcement, they now want to make certain areas not accessible to children and youngsters anymore, it is not sufficient by far.

Today there are more than 6 million registered inhabitants and this grows daily. Second Life is especially liked by us Germans. Finally, to be able to live the life as it is not possible for us in the real world.

There are places in Second Life which are peppered with fetishes of the child porn scene. A children's room, a girl with white dress, with a bow. Pedophiles pretend the abuse of children here.

This is what it seems like in Second Life. In a house we observe how a 13-year-old girl is violated several times one after the other. Other players watch

"I simply lack the words. And this explicitness. Besides, it it doesn't matter whether these are fictive events or real events.

Instead of this countless pedophiles have set up in Second Life.

If the operator company of Second Life does not gain control of the problem immediately, the downfall of this nice new world is marked. The announcement, they now want to make certain areas not accessible to children and youngsters anymore, it is not sufficient by far.