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Draco18s Majestic
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05-22-2007 15:59
Can I have a green slip cover?
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Joker Opus
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05-22-2007 17:15
If santa thinks your good
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Draco18s Majestic
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05-22-2007 17:40
*Waggles his tail*
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Joker Opus
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05-22-2007 18:16
Maybe santa will also bring us a better WT sandbox *looks up hopefully*
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Kage Starr
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05-23-2007 00:18
but yes, getting back on topic besides what color slips santa will bring me... us.. anyone got any ideas beside this forum thing here that may attract attention to the areas that are needed most. for example: Help
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Tegg Bode
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05-23-2007 00:44
Lol, there at the moment looking at the profile of apparently stout anti griefer, I got his name from followers left in the sandbox and witnessed him attaching himself to other peoples heads in obscene acts somehow.
It seems to have been cleared but refilled again with fresh stuff _____________________
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Ranya Palmer
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Join date: 21 Apr 2007
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05-23-2007 09:39
i am also a weapons testing sandbox user but i don't build there but i love the fact
that you can test dangerous stuff that would get you banned else where but like everybody else im also getting tired of all of the spaming crap that griefters leave behind and all of the trash that never gets picked up by the people who rez em so im too in favor of a 15-20 minute auto return. but as for the griefters themselves, let them keep coming, why? because we all need someone to shoot at and what makes a better target than a 2-bit griefter that think they can shoot at us and get away without "touching the sky" to me the WTSB is the place to go to test and tweak scripts, and while im not a really good scripter, i am learning in hopes of becoming a great scripter/builder someday. P.S. to any SBG member, if my name comes up in your bumps, pushes and hits list please try not to orbit me because i may have been fending off a griefter or shooting the C.B.T target and might have hit you by accident. thanks in advance. love Ranya ![]() |
Blabla2 Eponym
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05-23-2007 10:44
Weapons as many of the developers know carry lag with them. just because operating them costs alot of scripting power. while the high quality guns lag because alot of options are put in the lower quality guns lack efficient scripting making it lag even more sometimes.
All this lag is acceptable because Weapons testing is a whole sim, that has quite some bandwidth to support such weapons. But where weapons are, people that are aggressive come too, don't get me wrong alot of people in WT are nice and act mature. but about every 15 minutes a potential risk comes in classified in a couple of categories. -Item spammers : These guys are egoistic retards, they have absolutely no idea how much strain a sim can handle, and many times use over 2000 prims, where the limit is 15000 or so. around 7500+ it starts to lag *Then there is a sub category which is Physical item spammers, although they don't spam in quantity they spam in lag, around 30/40+ physical prims a sim can support, after that it rapidly get's worse, on todays market there are several disruptors available, but as lag increases the disruptors don't work. *The second sub category are instable prim spammers, the use of megaprims, or any other prims that damage the sims. -Script spammers : Much more rare as item spammers, but they are even worse, scripts are not as obvious but sometimes can create an equal amount of lag. -Weapon spammers : They attack people at random, with weapons ranging from a popgun to a full sim nuke. they are usually not a hazard to the sim, but do get into fights with other weapon owners, this often turns into a weapon war to see who has the best weapon, what may start as an innocent fight involving freebee G36's will turn out in their best texture spamming or damaging nukes(push involved). which lags the sim in turn Follower spammers : although the follower spammers don't necissarily have to spam in great quantities or with lag(although they usually do), they are highly annoying as most followers get in the way of other people, which sometimes even forces people to take laggy measurements such as major skydomes. Sound spammers : the object does not lag, it is usually not found in large quantities, yet it disturbs peace. and muting may not always work, as the items can be hidden, or the sound prim isn't the main prim in the object, which involves user muting instead. although this in general doesn't cause much harm, when multiple users do it, it really get's a pain in the ass Griefers : Most common category, assholes. They do everything to annoy other people using all of the above. Usually persistent and keep returning for several weeks, or any time spam longer than 24 hours. in the beginning some of them don't pose a threat, but as they grow older the experience in the game allows them to wield weapons that are illigal and can potentially crash a sim with the use of prim spamming mostly, although script spamming works just as good. When the lindens respond usually after about 3 weeks of complaining, they just make a new character and continue with that one. There are griefers like NIGHTMARE dench who holds well over 5 accounts. Newbs and dumb people : They often have no clue whatever they are doing, they don't even know what they can do. They don't pose a threat but usually they don't know the rules and will often put up alot of advertisements, because they are in need of L$. If that's not the case they will just shoot you because they think it's a weapon sim. The regulars try to educate those people, however it takes time, and the newbs aren't always as nice to us as we try to be to them at first glance. It often takes quite some time to teach them how to correctly behave in second life. which involves asking before you test on other persons, no advertising or selling in sandboxes and in general don't be an asshole. or just to redirect them to a proper place to do whatever they feel is fun, such as shooting people at rausch. Then the regulars attempt to save the sim from crashing, which usually can't always be prevented. by asking and even using force if necissary to discourage people to crash or heavily lag the sim. Although we are different in levels of niceness, we in general cooperate to make Weapons testing a better place where we can build and script our weapons or anything related. This is hindered because we have no power when it comes to restraining people from spamming, besides sending them into space >.>, which I do not want, and probably my fellow regulars don't want either. Then we request that either the lindens come with a faster response, which actually works. or we get some restricted control over the sandbox. I don't agree of giving any of us alot of power as some of us can't handle the responsibility and are abusive with those powers, however the power to return and delete would be a gift in the hand of the proper person. |
Rooster Misfit
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05-24-2007 02:33
P.S. to any SBG member, if my name comes up in your bumps, pushes and hits list please try not to orbit me because i may have been fending off a griefter or shooting the C.B.T target and might have hit you by accident. lol dont worry we dont do anything unless we are constantly hit. if you do it a few times just come and appologize... for the most part it doesnt even phase us we are so used it... blabla: damn fine post _____________________
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Joker Opus
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05-24-2007 07:30
Yeah - as blabla noted, there are many types of greifers in the Weapon Testing Sandbox. And ALL of those things (Parical spam, Noise Spam, Weapon Spam, ect) happen daily, and you cant get the particles and sounds out of your head untill the auto return goes off, which seems like days (I think it is..).
Today I was permaorbited (orbited with no die timer), and after 8 hours, I logged back on and was STILL being orbited.. I have to wait untill the auto return goes off untill I can walk around the sandbox. I have to wait 300 minuts (But I think its actually more than that.. Because 8 hours later I was still orbiting) to get out of orbit, to be able to hear things besides batmans screaming, and getting bumped around with physical genitalia.... _____________________
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Joker Opus
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05-24-2007 19:44
Godspeed -- Fix the SB
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Rooster Misfit
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05-25-2007 05:36
I have to wait 300 minuts (But I think its actually more than that.. Because 8 hours later I was still orbiting) to get out of orbit, to be able to hear things besides batmans screaming, and getting bumped around with physical genitalia.... helll even if the 300 min after the set of screaming batmans there is still a set of screaming sponge bobs that were placed 2 hours after the batmans were placed... and by time the sponge bobs get returned the batmans are already back... and to top it off THEY ARE FOLLOWERS!!!!! so no matter where you walk you are folowed by something thats bound to make you just want to teleport out or just close the program cause NO ONE CARES.... hows that for some customer service slogan _____________________
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Joker Opus
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05-25-2007 07:56
Yay the sandbox is getting spammed... not a surprise in all. tony4758 Zhichao has let out following traps (about 100 of them) which makes the SB (and every other sandbox he let them out in) useless..... YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Rooster Misfit
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05-26-2007 03:47
yeah he has been doing that for the past few days now
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Rooster Misfit
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05-26-2007 03:53
well its 3.52am and weaponstesting has been down for like 40 mins
REEEDDDDD ZOOONNNNEEEEEEEDDDDDD BOOOOOOOOOO _____________________
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Tegg Bode
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05-26-2007 07:39
yeah he has been doing that for the past few days now Same guy, why don't we just all send him a few copies of all our notecards spam each? _____________________
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Rooster Misfit
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05-26-2007 17:30
Same guy, why don't we just all send him a few copies of all our notecards spam each? because we all arnt always out there when he does it and my point of this thread is to not retaliate first and clean later i want to clean it first and if they keep on doing it then we shove them around till they get the point _____________________
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Rooster Misfit
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05-28-2007 07:26
sooo i have been on SL for som hours now and WT sim has been down the whole time and from whta i was told it was down hours befor i logged on.. they even sent reports about it...
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Rooster Misfit
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05-29-2007 08:10
UPDATE...
word on the grid is weapon testing sandbox has been down for over 48 hours sad tacos _____________________
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Katana Redgrave
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05-29-2007 15:02
Lindens arent gonna read this. They only care about something if they get extra profit out of fixing it. Everyone needs to think of a way to stick this in their faces. And probably another revolution. They either need to control their sandbox, or make more on the sides of the current box.
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Joker Opus
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05-29-2007 21:29
Actually I change my mind.
Im not buying land with these technical issues. Regions go down every minute, and, like weapon testing, stay down for around 2/3 days. Its very difficult to report these things via support, and ontop of all that, land fees have gone up... GONE UP WITH MORE ISSUES... I know 3 people who stoped paying for their sims because of these issues and the support issues. ****************** I guess im just not seeing a change with the weapon testing sandbox. Lindens think that its just a weapon sandbox that no one cares about and trashes up. I quote a linden: "Reporting issues inside a weapon sandbox is like trying to throw away a trash can". Now listen good please any lindens that are browzing. This sandbox is not JUST a trash can. Its a landmark of secondlife. My virutal home for a year now, and many other's for longer. You cant just ignore this. Show us that you care and atleast reply to this thread. ****************** _____________________
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Alderic LeShelle
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05-30-2007 00:36
Just the same as in RL. If you happen to live in a sandbox or - even worse - the dirty back alley you must get along with the bullies passing through and messing things up.
A sandbox is just that - a sandbox. And a weapontesting sandbox may be even worse. You may choose to live there but you must deal with the disadvantages of Second Life's equivalent of living under the bridge. Being in SL for at around six months - the worst six months as far as I would gather from the forum - I've seen my share of technical issues as well, but there was only ONE time when one of the non-sandbox sims was down for longer than the usual time to reboot. And I'm talking about quite busy sims. So in an essence you do get what you pay for. |
Joker Opus
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05-30-2007 07:46
OK one - it wasnt always a 'back alley' so to speak. This very sandbox is how I generated 80 percent of my friendslist. Sandboxes in secondlife are way more than people think they are. They are places where you meet new people, and can relax without prims all over (A club?), and build or script. People think that these places are just trash bins, but they arent.
Ive been in SL for 13 months, Ive been learning the game on my friends character before that in 2005. All that time ive been in this sandbox. All that time I barely have left one. And either know people dont care about them. Their still my home, as 'dirty' as they've become. The weapon testing sandbox is not a place for greifer garbage, and simcrashes ever y 5 minuts. Its for Testing your weapons on willing people. _____________________
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Rooster Misfit
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05-31-2007 02:54
Just the same as in RL. If you happen to live in a sandbox or - even worse - the dirty back alley you must get along with the bullies passing through and messing things up. A sandbox is just that - a sandbox. And a weapontesting sandbox may be even worse. You may choose to live there but you must deal with the disadvantages of Second Life's equivalent of living under the bridge. Being in SL for at around six months - the worst six months as far as I would gather from the forum - I've seen my share of technical issues as well, but there was only ONE time when one of the non-sandbox sims was down for longer than the usual time to reboot. And I'm talking about quite busy sims. So in an essence you do get what you pay for. even if thats how it is in RL you dont get powers to snap your fingers and get rid of the mess.... in SL you do and with everything that has been going threw you NEED to have those powers on hand at that sandbox cause it just gets unbearable everyday and that power is something im trying to get distributed(to the right people) in the box _____________________
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Katana Redgrave
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