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When we get to Zindra, are we going to have any customers?

Argent Stonecutter
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06-22-2009 15:59
From: Smith Peel
Hey Argent, It says "Adult Verification" on the left-hand side menu after you log into your account. Even though I'd used payment (many times) I couldn't visit Zindra, until after I did that...
Actually, it says "age verification".

That's the old Aristotle age verification scheme which I won't use.

You are allowed on the adult continent if you're age verified (via Aristotle) or account verified (via paypal or credit card).
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Smith Peel
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06-22-2009 16:00
From: DanielRavenNest Noe
Estate owners can place Adult regions next door to Mature or PG. So if you want to have all your stuff in "one" location, get land that straddles the border.


That is a really good point. That would work great for those who can afford two sims or one full sim and an openspace. Or who want to rent from someone who does.

Nevermind the customers who might fall into that mysterious crack between the sims that sometimes opens up ;)
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06-22-2009 16:03
From: Argent Stonecutter
Actually, it says "age verification".

That's the old Aristotle age verification scheme which I won't use.

You are allowed on the adult continent if you're age verified (via Aristotle) or account verified (via paypal or credit card).


I stand corrected. As I recall they just asked some personal questions. Don't tell me I accidentally sold my soul. :(

Hmm... Well I couldn't get into Zindra until I did that... I think... but perhaps I am confused... It has happened before....
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Argent Stonecutter
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06-22-2009 16:05
I won't speculate about whether it's conceivable that the account verification stuff might not have screwed up for you. I mean, Linden Labs wouldn't put buggy code into production. :D
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Ciaran Laval
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06-22-2009 16:07
From: Gabriele Graves
Well I did expect that too but to be honest I am very Meh about Zindra. I have a personal feeling there will still be a lot of adult content on mature land despite everything. Besides there is very little adult content I need/want that I don't already have.


Pffft so I can't invite you over to my homestead to challenge you to a game of en garde!
Milla Janick
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06-22-2009 16:09
From: Smith Peel
I stand corrected. As I recall they just asked some personal questions. Don't tell me I accidentally sold my soul. :(

You haven't sold your soul, but you have bought a pony. You did read the fine print, right?

But seriously, payment information used or payment information on file is supposed to allow you to enable adult content in the viewer and access adult regions. Sometimes payment information is not accurately listed in the viewer, and you'll need to submit a support ticket for it to be corrected.

Both account and age verification are buggy.
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Gabriele Graves
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06-22-2009 16:10
From: Ciaran Laval
Pffft so I can't invite you over to my homestead to challenge you to a game of en garde!
Pfft that doesn't sound like a very adult activity to me. ;)
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Milla Janick
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06-22-2009 16:14
From: DanielRavenNest Noe
Try Snowglobe, or one of the third party viewers.

Snowglobe still needs a lot of work to be as good as 1.23.4.
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Argent Stonecutter
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06-22-2009 16:21
From: Milla Janick
Snowglobe still needs a lot of work to be as good as 1.23.4.
:eek:

Like what?
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Milla Janick
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06-22-2009 16:35
From: Argent Stonecutter
:eek:

Like what?

Well, maybe I exaggerate a little, but I ran into some graphics flaws in the Mac version. Transparent menus, transparent clothing...

The PC version is incorrectly warning me that my PC doesn't meet the minimum requirements. Maybe it's mad that I'm running it under Windows 7?
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Ceera Murakami
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06-22-2009 18:12
From: Milla Janick
Snowglobe still needs a lot of work to be as good as 1.23.4.

Agreed. On my Mac, the frame rate while running Snowglobe was 1/2 what I got with 1.22 on the exact same graphics settings. (1.23.4 was somewhere between the two).
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Esthezia Andel
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06-22-2009 18:20
OK, I want to be sure I understand this. To be able to visit Zindra and other adult areas, I need to have payment information on file for my account AND I need to be using the new 1.23.4 viewer (or a 3rd-party equivalent), is that correct?
Gabriele Graves
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06-22-2009 18:22
From: Esthezia Andel
OK, I want to be sure I understand this. To be able to visit Zindra and other adult areas, I need to have payment information on file for my account AND I need to be using the new 1.23.4 viewer (or a 3rd-party equivalent), is that correct?
This will be correct a few months after Zindra is open to the public for good as I understand it.
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DanielRavenNest Noe
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06-22-2009 18:24
I installed Snowglobe v1.02 yesterday, and no crashes so far. And I have had only a couple of crashes on KirstenLee's viewer in 2 months or so. For me crashes are much more annoying than rendering issues.

But as I mentioned before, your success for failure with any given viewer depends on other things than the viewer itself, so all I can suggest is try different ones until you find one that works for you.

@Milla - Windows 7 is not supported yet, so its no surprise its giving you problems.
Ceera Murakami
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06-22-2009 18:25
From: Esthezia Andel
OK, I want to be sure I understand this. To be able to visit Zindra and other adult areas, I need to have payment information on file for my account AND I need to be using the new 1.23.4 viewer (or a 3rd-party equivalent), is that correct?
They are saying there will be a 2 month "grace period" for everyone to adopt the buggy 1.23.4 client, before they lock older clients out of the Adult Areas. There will probably be a LOT of hacked ways around that.

Until they lock us in, using the 1.23.4 client once and setting your preferences for Adult access will allow an older 1.22 copy of SL installed on the same system to access the Adult sims, even if you installed the two versions in seperate directories. (Have tested this).
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Milla Janick
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06-22-2009 18:29
From: DanielRavenNest Noe
@Milla - Windows 7 is not supported yet, so its no surprise its giving you problems.

The actual technical problems I had were on a Macintosh.

I see I have version .900, which I guess isn't the latest. I'll give the newer one a shot.
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Shaddow Bellic
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06-23-2009 17:21
From: Rygel Ryba
Once the dust settles and everything makes sense to everyone, "Adult" regions will end up being what today's "Mature" regions are. There are plenty of things out there now that could easily pass as PG but it's just easier to call it "Mature" because you never know what might happen or what you want to do. In essence, if you are on a Mature or PG sim now - you have a whole bunch of extra rules to follow. If you are on an "Adult Sim" you just follow the general rules of common decency and you're good to go. Easy. Fun. And everyone will be there, so you might as well go too. lol

That's my prediction anyway. Zindra and Adult Estates will not be the underbelly of SL - it will be the place to be


... and what happens next is that a bunch of people who want to experience all the cool stuff on Adult land without having to see a lot of porn will start complaining. So to accommodate them LL will ban sex and violence on Adult land, create a new land category called Ultra-Adult, and exile all the sex/violence content providers to yet another new continent.

Any predictions on what the new Ultra-Adult continent will be named?
Sindy Tsure
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06-23-2009 18:08
From: Smith Peel
My point is.... Anybody got some speculation about what percentage of our customers will actually follow us there? They could, ya know, just shop on Xstreet, and then keep the naughty stuff in their private Mature sim homes (if I'm interpreting things correctly).

I watched the stats closely for a while and consistantly had about 40% NPIOF at my place. I'll be happy(ish) if I only lose 20% of my traffic. TY yet again, LL.

If you want to see how much of your traffic is NPIOF, you can grab a scanner here: .
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Ceka Cianci
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06-23-2009 18:12
From: Shaddow Bellic
... and what happens next is that a bunch of people who want to experience all the cool stuff on Adult land without having to see a lot of porn will start complaining. So to accommodate them LL will ban sex and violence on Adult land, create a new land category called Ultra-Adult, and exile all the sex/violence content providers to yet another new continent.

Any predictions on what the new Ultra-Adult continent will be named?

RL
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06-23-2009 18:16
From: Shaddow Bellic

Any predictions on what the new Ultra-Adult continent will be named?
Korova.
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Milla Janick
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06-23-2009 18:28
From: Shaddow Bellic
Any predictions on what the new Ultra-Adult continent will be named?

America.
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06-23-2009 18:28
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06-23-2009 19:41
Gertrude.
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Jig Chippewa
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06-23-2009 19:43
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06-23-2009 19:46
From: Patasha Marikh
Wait, where did you hear this at?


I go to Zindra on payment info. Don't get excited. It's boring and stores sell cheap sh*t.
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