age verification

That should make it easier for the paedophiles to know where to hang out.

Pep (Kid avs in Ursula = Instant ARs)

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was not only explicit sex that would make it adult but also extreme violence and we already established kid avs are alowed to participate in extreme violence as long as there is no sign of sexual activety.

If I see a kid avatar anywhere on Ursula I will warn them that I am about to commit a sexual act and that they should leave immediately, otherwise I will AR them for harassment.

Pep (I can construe of no morally acceptable reason for kid avatars to be on Ursula, extreme violence included)

My issue is I only want real life adults around me when I am doin' adult stuff.

I don't care what age or role a real life real life adult plays, just knowing they are a consenting adult is enough.

What if someone has cyber sex with someone and it's a kid posing as an adult. Who is responsible for that? The Lindens?

Basically I just don't want to do any adult stuff with this possibility around, it's a sickening thought.

I keep feeling like I am missing something and this possibility isn't real. Am I missing some part of the new rules?

No, the new rules don't provide much if any more protection against some sweet-talking kid than the old rules.

Guess you could face counter ARs if you are the one starting a sexual act with a child av already present nomatter where you are on SL including Ursula.
Face it the rules as they stand now do not care about your morals and extreme violent role play including child avs without any sexual reference has been around for ages, one comming to mind right away is gangsta roleplay, sure LL might revice the restrictions for child avs and include violence as wel, it won't be the first time they tighten the restrictions

It's like making a special point of bringing kids or abusers in a room and saying don't look at the porn in the case in the cupboard.

objection noted (and discarded by LL)

then do it in person only.

There is no way to know who is behind an avatar...

You mean the part that makes sense? No, nobody can find that part. Including LL.

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Aes

They may have to rethink that unfortunately. Ursula, or whatever it's actual name will be as LL has said that won't be it's final deignation, will bee known as The Sex Continent. That's it. I have a feeling any hint of a child avatar will be cause to ring Linden's bell. It will only take one crusader to see a kid anywhere near a sex act, and the whole PR mess will land in LL's lap.

So far the only extreme violence that appears to rate on the LL Adult Content-O-Meter is sexual related (Dolcett). I'm pretty sure LL will frown on child avatars in such situations.

I wonder if swanky dance clubs will be affected. What happens if you search "Sax and Violins"......

Counter ARs?

"I know it was the Adult Continent and I know he warned me that he was about to do something he was completely entitled to do there and I know that I am really over 18 and I know that the only reason for me to remain was to harass him . . . but, but . . . IT'S NOT FAIR!" *stamps foot and cries*

Pep (Right . . .)

I'm not so sure that Pr0nsylvania will *stay* "The Sex Continent" for long, however. Once the speculators get their hands on a bunch of beach property and double-primmed urban parcels, PG buyers won't be far behind.

Sure, they'll be surrounded by gory sex and kinky death, but if land prices there should ever dip even slightly below comparable terrain on the other continents, they'll come.

ROFLMAO!!!!!

Pep (unintentional? intentional!)

Semi-intentional. I was trying to devise some play on "even) if we build it, they will come" but just couldn't get it to work, so I left the pun as a little 1.5-entendre for true perverts to find.

(Sorry: All veering off-topic and very "inside baseball."

Well from everything i have read from this thread it seems most people don't get verified or do by other means instead of the beta thing...

If you people are really curious about public records and why some people don't get verified is because they use sites like www.whitepages.com

Its a public people search engine its used to search up people for businesses and give you all their public information and its all legal. I would advise not to use these kind of sites to false information since SL would ban you if your caught. If you aren't in these public record sites then chances are you wont be verified. I know for a fact that I'm not on these sites when I searched my name and I'm 20...

I would believe this is the kind of sites Lindin is using to find if we do exist... I'm not 100% sure, BUT o well I would advise not to give out public information out period unless the site and your system is secure and is required for mailing or billing information.

Nice try Pep but it will more likely be something along the folowing lines:

category: ageplay
description:
resident attempted to involve a child avatar in a sexual act.

remember we are talking about a parcel that is adult rated for extreme violence, not sexual content.

As the rules are layed out you are NOT alowed to place sexual items or engage in sexual or lewd acts near a child avatar (ageplay rules) and you can not tell a child avatar to leave so you can have sex (harrasment) unless you own the parcel. It has been tried on mature sims enough already and always failed

The governance team is very agresive when it comes to sexual ageplay so I strongly advice you not to try it out.

As a side note there are plenty of ways a child av can end up on ursula even on sex parcels, and they have nothing to do with searching, the 2 most common ways are getting blind tps by someone tping everyone in their contact list, the second one is someone trying to trick a child av to a sexual place either because they want to do sexual ageplay with said child av or to frame the child av for an AR, sadly I have withnessed all of these.

And they will complain once again about the cartoon nasty, and LL will do what they probably intend to do all along, remove Adult content entirely.

*I am happy everytime my Pornsylvania meme is used. Here, have some coins.

They'll come. They'll just do it quietly, and will publicly deny that they did.

There is no distinction. Adult is adult.

An adult-only continent is a completely different playing field from that which exists now, and the rules have to be interpreted differently, otherwise it would be so simple for griefers with kid avatars to "legally" bring the continent to a standstill. Quite simply, the motive for the kid to be there will have to be questioned, and there will *no* valid justiification for their presence.

There is no question of sexual ageplay. There is every indication of harassment. Once you have designated a continent as adult there is no basis for kid avatars to complain if people behave like adults there.

And exactly how does any of these entail a kid avatar being prevented from tping back to the PG Continent immediately, particularly when given fair warning?

Pep (If someone wants to go to the Adult Continent as a kid avatar then their presence there is automatically suspicious.)

Yeh - I'm not sure how anyone 'accidentally' teleports into pr0n in SL as it is, and frankly, if they are hitting random tp points from the map, one could argue they get what they earned.

Anyone 'accidentally' teleporting into Ursula - which I'm imagining will resemble the sex city in the film AI - will be standing on very shaky ground should they claim they were victimised. I mean isn't that the purported purpose behind shuffling everyone over there to begin with? So innocent eyes are protected? (which kind of contradicts the other reason i.e. SL's reputation has become ONLY about pr0n so let's clean it up).

Can't have a blindfold half on and half off, claiming 20/20 vision and blindness at the same time.

You have no guarantee now that the person you are cybering with is an adult and with all the various verification techniques in use around the internet, you would still have no guarantee. Any kid could be on the grid right - we know for a fact that some have been. And any kid could steal info from mommy or daddy to get thru the verification process or swipe their credit card to put payment info on file.