What is the Mosh Monorail station, exactly? (O.o)
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-17-2009 19:29
Okay, I know for a fact that the River parcel in Ortiz/Gilda is an official infohub... PG guidelines posted, and all. (^_^) The other builds can pass as simply public works spaces... Some stuff to pretty the place up and add some adventure. The coffee shop is REALLY cool. (^_^) But, what is is the monorail station in Mosh? (O.o) At first, it looked like it was an unfinished SLRR experiment with an equally unfinished ferry port out the back. It was the base of the opening celebrations for the Zindra continent. I even got to give M Linden a 'boot to the head' there. And, later showed up in the Herald as being one of the touring residents. =^-^= But, now, It's parceled out into evenly spaced 400Sq.Meter parcels and one of the parcels already belongs to a private group. (o.O) Is it being handed out by lottery like the Luna Galleria? (O.o) Is it being sold? (o.O) Will people eventually tear down the build? (O.o) Fiiiiiiiiishy. (o.o) ... Oh... >  ^o^)<
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23rdDjin Negulesco
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07-17-2009 19:37
well, whatever is happening with it, you KNOW someone is bound to blame you!
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Dana Hickman
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07-17-2009 19:44
Seeing the LDPW free vendors on that wall there, and hearing you say it's parceled up like that, I wonder if LL wants in on the action and is trying to create the adult version of Busy Bens car lot at that location.
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Marianne McCann
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07-17-2009 21:40
From: Dana Hickman Seeing the LDPW free vendors on that wall there, and hearing you say it's parceled up like that, I wonder if LL wants in on the action and is trying to create the adult version of Busy Bens car lot at that location. That would be my assumption as well.
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Carl Metropolitan
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07-17-2009 21:53
From: Dana Hickman Seeing the LDPW free vendors on that wall there, and hearing you say it's parceled up like that, I wonder if LL wants in on the action and is trying to create the adult version of Busy Bens car lot at that location. I spoke to someone who was setting up shop there while working on the NCI InfoNode across the street. He said that the land in the Emporium was being sold/traded for like the rest of Zindra and that he had just requested it from the Lindens.
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Brenda Connolly
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07-17-2009 21:54
I wish they would put up a sign. I waited 2 hours for the monorail the other day. It never showed and I missed my appointment
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07-17-2009 22:07
Mosh Monorail station. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious.
(had to google that one...)
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Lias Leandros
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07-17-2009 23:15
Here we go again. Push, push, push the envelope. Complaining there is adult content in the view of a public build in Mosh which is in (egad!) The ADULT CONTINENT. Now that you realize it is there just move on please. There will be no child's playground here. (jpeg removed of picture of the view at the Mosh Monorail because the resident content surrounding it is hardcore adult content - not PG at all)
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Qie Niangao
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07-18-2009 00:49
I was certainly surprised to see the first commercial installation in that Mosh station, but after I saw it and the parceling of the whole station, it kind of makes sense. It's just a Linden version of a mall, more or less. Considering who moved in first, I thought maybe the parcels there were reserved to swap with adfarmers as a quid pro quo for getting them to abandon their extortionate microparcels. No such luck. 
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Sling Trebuchet
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07-18-2009 01:34
When I saw those vendors set up, my thought was.... The ground is built over. How did anyone know that the station had been parcelled? ..... and was available?
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Ceka Cianci
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07-18-2009 01:56
From: Lias Leandros Here we go again. Push, push, push the envelope. Complaining there is adult content in the view of a public build in Mosh which is in (egad!) The ADULT CONTINENT. Now that you realize it is there just move on please. There will be no child's playground here. http://farm4.static.flickcom35363730861413baa8895416o.jpgyou should really keep a link like this where it belongs and not post adult content links in these PG forums..Those images in the background are very obscene and there is no age verification here..You should really keep that where it belongs..Zindra CONDUCT BY USERS OF SECOND LIFE 4.1 You agree to abide by certain rules of conduct, including the Community Standards and other rules prohibiting illegal and other practices that Linden Lab deems harmful. You agree to read and comply with the Community Standards posted on the Websites, (for users 18 years of age and older, at http://secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php; and for users of the Teen Area, at http://teen.secondlife.com/footer/cs In addition to abiding at all times by the Community Standards, you agree that you shall not: (iii) take any action or upload, post, e-mail or otherwise transmit Content that violates any law or regulation; (iv) take any action or upload, post, e-mail or otherwise transmit Content as determined by Linden Lab at its sole discretion that is harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, causes tort, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable; Adult Regions, Groups, and Listings Second Life is an adult community, but 'Adult' content, activity and communication are not permitted on the Second Life 'mainland.' Such material is permitted on private regions, or on the Adult Continent, Zindra. In either case, any Adult content, activity, or communication, that falls under our Adult Maturity Definition must be on regions designated as 'Adult,' and will be filtered from non-verified accounts. Global Standards, Local Ratings All areas of Second Life, including the www.secondlife.com website and the Second Life Forums, adhere to the same Community Standards. Regions within Second Life are noted as Safe or Unsafe and should be designated by the SL account holder as either 'Adult,' 'Mature' or 'PG.' Resident behavior within each region must conform to the respective local rating.
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07-18-2009 02:27
@ Ceka: she posted a link, not the image splashed in all it's glory across your page... if you find certain images objectionable, PERHAPS YOU SHOULD NOT FOLLOW RANDOM LINKS FROM A THREAD ABOUT ADULT CONTENT. thank you for your attn.
we now return you to your regularly scheduled wonderment at LL policy and enforcement decisions.
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Abigail Merlin
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07-18-2009 02:36
From: Lias Leandros Here we go again. Push, push, push the envelope. Complaining there is adult content in the view of a public build in Mosh which is in (egad!) The ADULT CONTINENT. Now that you realize it is there just move on please. There will be no child's playground here. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3536/3730861413_baa8895416_o.jpgWhere did this come from? I seen no complains about what is or is not in view or anyone pushing the envelope, just a wonderment about why the monorail station is being parceled up. Are you looking for a conflict where there is non? or just not paying attention?
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Ciaran Laval
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07-18-2009 03:20
From: Abigail Merlin Are you looking for a conflict where there is non? Bingo!
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Gummo Zaks
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07-18-2009 03:52
Yeah the whole thing they are doing with the monorail station is wrong. And I have no idea how peopl knew to ask for a swap to that place considering the original map had it as an infohub (sorry don't have the old map but someone does because I remember seeing it in another thread) next I'm sure we will see the trvesty of low prim furniture being sold there!
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Lias Leandros
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07-18-2009 04:53
From: Abigail Merlin Where did this come from? I seen no complains about what is or is not in view or anyone pushing the envelope, just a wonderment about why the monorail station is being parceled up.
Are you looking for a conflict where there is non? or just not paying attention? I was merely commenting that the two most infamous child avatar RPers have honed in on the Linden area in Zindra (once again) that has the most explicit adult content within eyesight of it. From: Imnotgoing Sideways Okay, I know for a fact that the River parcel in Ortiz/Gilda is an official infohub... PG guidelines posted, and all. (^_^) I do not like that a child avatar person is making every effort to enforce PG standards in the Adult Continent of Zindra. I believe the Adult Content community has enough problems without this backdoor campaign being pushed here. We meet with Blondin Linden as part of the group Zindra Alliance to make these decisions that effect the tier payers in Zindra. If it is decided that these Linden Parcels in the center of Adult content have different ratings - that should be the concern and the decision of the people involved. Attempting to enforce PG standards on a parcel surrounded by hardcore adult content is harassment. Go play already.
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07-18-2009 05:42
Not much of an info hub if it's being parceled up, therefore the issue of PG or not is pretty much a non-starter
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Qie Niangao
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07-18-2009 05:52
(Void: Note that currently PG applies to all Linden-owned land, not just infohubs.)
I think it's a valid point that public spaces on Zindra shouldn't be PG, but they shouldn't be full-on Adult "anything goes," either.
For starters, when Adult sims crash, their denizens will relog to the infohubs (not Mosh--it's not an infohub--but Arapaima and Oritz). Some of them are gonna be naked. There's really no point in pretending that PG standards can reign there, at least in terms of nudity. (I know: folks have rezzed nude at PG infohubs since time immemorial and it hasn't been an issue... but it's always been a violation, so may as well avoid some very predictable violations here.)
Overall, Zindra should be a place where people looking for and engaging in their favorite adult content can feel comfortable. So I don't see a problem with folks walking around nude.
On the other hand, I don't think anything-goes extreme adult content on public Linden land will make Zindra denizens comfortable, either. Quite the opposite, in fact. I really don't want to see Dolcett on the sidewalk outside my place. And I bet there are "extreme" heterosexuals who really don't want to see what I might get up to, either, were I to do it on the street.
So... how about "Mature" for Zindra public land?
(I know: there's an open question here about whether this should only apply to Linden-owned land, or something else. The Mosh transit mall is one place where that gets particularly nasty, with tiny little 400sq.m. parcels smashed up against each other along a Linden-owned corridor. If folks can get on with every conceivable kink on those little parcels, *nobody* is gonna want to step foot in the place. Everybody's kink is nobody's kink.)
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Milla Janick
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07-18-2009 06:22
From: Gummo Zaks Yeah the whole thing they are doing with the monorail station is wrong. And I have no idea how peopl knew to ask for a swap to that place considering the original map had it as an infohub (sorry don't have the old map but someone does because I remember seeing it in another thread) next I'm sure we will see the trvesty of low prim furniture being sold there! I don't remember it being marked as an infohub at any time after Zindra was opened to the public. It isn't that hard to look at the about land menu and see it's been parceled up and request a parcel there.
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07-18-2009 06:45
From: Qie Niangao (Void: Note that currently PG applies to all Linden-owned land, not just infohubs.) point taken, although we're on the same lines here.. Zindra is and adult continent, specifically made for, and catering to adult content, ergo, the linden lands in that area would logically follow suit.... but like you say, it's still community land, and that means at least a minimum of common courtesy should be observed... (not that it will by some, but it should be)
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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07-18-2009 06:53
Quoting myself... From: Imnotgoing Sideways Okay, I know for a fact that the River parcel in Ortiz/Gilda is an official infohub... PG guidelines posted, and all. (^_^)... Ortiz is not Mosh. I just pointed out that the actual infohub is there. And ~IS~ an infohub with all the indicators. (^_^) This thread is about the apparent commercialization of Mosh, which at first was a public works build. I'm just curious about the intent of the place. So far, two builds have gone up assuming the Mosh monorail station will be an infohub and potential new resident landing zone. From the looks of things, this is no longer true. It may be beneficial for people to know this if their goal is to locate themselves near an infohub for whatever their purposes. (^_^) From: Lias Leandros ...I do not like that a child avatar person is making every effort to enforce PG standards in the Adult Continent of Zindra... Really now? Are mere account holders able to enforce any standards away from their own parcel? Did a kid avatar rez this sign? Surely, you CAN'T be accusing Michael Linden of being a kid avatar. (=_=)  ****** ****** ****** That said. Back on topic: What is the Mosh monorail station turning into? Why haven't any of the help groups put more effort into placing their builds around the River Infohub? River is the location that looks like it's a TRUE hub that already has people landing there after they relog from a sim crash. (^_^) What use is surrounding the monorail station with a infonodes when the more visible random traffic so far is focused on River? (^_^)  It's not like there's no space. (^_^)y
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Nic Writer
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07-18-2009 07:32
From: Sling Trebuchet When I saw those vendors set up, my thought was.... The ground is built over. How did anyone know that the station had been parcelled? ..... and was available? Advanced -> Rendering -> Volume (uncheck) View -> (something like land or parcel boundaries? I have it on all the time, so I forget) I probably would not have thought to do so, personally, so I probably wouldn't have noticed unless I saw the land info at the top of the screen change while I was walking around. But I have not been to Zindra for weeks and didn't get around much while I was there. I liked the dam, though. That was cool.
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Gummo Zaks
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07-18-2009 07:38
honestly though it is a nifty idea from a lpw prospective....just wish there was a monorail to go with it
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Qie Niangao
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07-18-2009 07:53
From: Imnotgoing Sideways What use is surrounding the monorail station with a infonodes when the more visible random traffic so far is focused on River? Indeed. I haven't checked the parceling around Ortiz, but that would seem a better place for an InfoNode, unless somebody knows more than what's been made public about plans for that huge hunk of land across the river from Mosh. Unless that's going to be a very big deal--or unless a monorail magically materializes at the station--Mosh is going to be a wasteland--especially once it's packed to the gills with every vendor's random textures to interminably download. A good mall manager anywhere in Kama could easily outdo the Mosh station for customer appeal and business support. Barring further Linden development in or near Mosh, I think it's pretty much irrelevant now.
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Marianne McCann
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07-18-2009 09:21
From: Lias Leandros I was merely commenting that the two most infamous child avatar RPers have honed in on the Linden area in Zindra (once again) that has the most explicit adult content within eyesight of it. Actually, I've not been through Mosh (or the rest of Zindra) in a couple weeks. I did go through there once shortly after the first parcels went wearing an alternate avatar, but saw nothing of much interest. But I was answering the question here. It sounds a bit like the Busy Ben's/New Port/Luna Oaks areas. Or did until it was posted that one could trade for one of those parcels. So how exactly is my one-sentence reply above have anything to do with kid avatars on Zindra - because the only person who even "went there" was you. Oh, and Immy is not exactly a child avatar, at least most of the time. If you think child avatar = Immy, you are sorely mistaken. But... whatever. You have fun. I'll be elsewhere. 
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