Cultural-Identity, Attitudes and Assimilation
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Cherry Czervik
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11-21-2007 04:13
From: Maggie McArdle granted the article is almost a year old and i would love to see it updated, but i do not believe the numbers have changed much
I bet they are different all right. I really do think there's more European bias than thay survey allows ... SL has changed a lot in a year.
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Qie Niangao
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11-21-2007 04:38
From: Raymond Figtree I am proud to be a part of the same planet that created the Dalai Lama, Eckhart Tolle, Ram Dass, John Lennon and my mother. Which is an attitude it probably took a bit of assimilation to attain. SL, to an even greater degree than the internet in general, offers the possibility of breeding a world culture universally accepting of diversity. Or, we can fuck it up, far too easily.
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Broccoli Curry
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11-21-2007 04:40
From: Chas Connolly But don't equate prejudice and ignorance with preference. Same thing to different people *shrug* Broccoli
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Cherry Czervik
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11-21-2007 04:45
Alright. Quit it. Just for once.
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Brenda Connolly
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11-21-2007 05:23
In RL I love the fact we are all different, different races, different religions, cultures, nationalities, political idealsof course these things can be taken to extremes, that's part of being human. I would not want to be part of any bland, beige boring, dronish society, where we all look, think and act alike. Same goes in SL.
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Broccoli Curry
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11-21-2007 05:29
From: Brenda Connolly I would not want to be part of any bland, beige boring, dronish society, where we all look, think and act alike. Same goes in SL. I take it you don't have a "barbie" avatar then...? Broccoli
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Brenda Connolly
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11-21-2007 05:35
From: Broccoli Curry I take it you don't have a "barbie" avatar then...?
Broccoli No. 
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Tana Smirnov
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11-21-2007 05:49
From: Jig Chippewa Should we start to expect a code of behaviour (not a T. of S.) that is culturally a secondlife series of expectations? Can that happen here or will we all forever be our real culture first and adopt a cyber skin but NOT a cyber-cultural identity? This just seems to me what the volunteers of SL already do. The more diversified the volunteers become the better. With the ideas you demonstrate you should be one of those volunteers.
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Chris Norse
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11-21-2007 05:51
From: Broccoli Curry I take it you don't have a "barbie" avatar then...?
Broccoli Barbie couldn't hold a candle to Brenda. 
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Brenda Connolly
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11-21-2007 05:59
We have a TOS, a Code of Conduct, and SL is operated subject to a myriad of RL Laws. Now the proposition is that a cultural behavior policy be created? Who would draw it up? How would it be enforced? What's wrong with treat people as you'd like to be treated?
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Chris Norse
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11-21-2007 06:06
From: Brenda Connolly We have a TOS, a Code of Conduct, and SL is operated subject to a myriad of RL Laws. Now the proposition is that a cultural behavior policy be created? Who would draw it up? How would it be enforced? What's wrong with treat people as you'd like to be treated? Damn it Connolly, you will be assimilated. Resistance is Futile.
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Brenda Connolly
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11-21-2007 06:10
From: Chris Norse Damn it Connolly, you will be assimilated. Resistance is Futile. Oh I've found my Muse already.
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11-21-2007 06:20
From: Brenda Connolly .... What's wrong with treat people as you'd like to be treated? Masochists?? Would they have rights to treat others as they wanted to be treated?  I think the only SL social culture to be aimed for is the LL "Big Six". What the six precisely were escapes me right now. As I remember, it was six ways of saying 'Do whatever you want to, but don't be a pain to others'.
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Polymorphous Projects
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11-21-2007 06:42
From: Brenda Connolly What's wrong with treat people as you'd like to be treated? What's wrong with treating people the way THEY want to be treated?
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Haravikk Mistral
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11-21-2007 06:45
From: SuezanneC Baskerville It's long past time that folks saw themselves as humans from earth That's a bit biased against humans in future that do not come from earth, or other species entirely =P As for culture, my behaviour and the way I apply my views and morals/ethics is completely different on SL than it is to real-life. I'm more of the "anything goes" mentality on SL but in RL I'm not always so forgiving of some practices/traditions/etc. that other people have that I do not. I'm not a closed minded person, and like to feel I'm not overly biased, but my opinions matter to me more in real-life applications, but on SL I tend not to apply them so strictly.
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Cherry Czervik
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11-21-2007 07:07
From: Broccoli Curry I take it you don't have a "barbie" avatar then...?
Broccoli Nope. She's unique and beautiful, is Brenda.
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Garrett Laramide
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11-21-2007 07:10
From: Jig Chippewa I am starting to see defining attitudes and identities becoming more and more evident in SL. I wonder if you do, too? Yes, I am starting to notice these more so of late. From: someone ...will we coalesce into one homogeneous world-culture... To a certain extent this will happen due to the gutless trend towards political correctness. Mind you there's a big difference between speaking your mind and standing up for your values whether they be cultural, religious, political, etc., and just out and out being an asshole. I loathe the thought of a single one-world society of lemmings all mindlessly playing follow the leader. The positive beauty of diversity far outweighs the negative. From: someone ...or bring our cultural arrogance and our prejudices with us, as well as the positive aspects of our cultures? This is what people do without realizing they're doing it. It's an ingrained part of the social behavior we experience day to day. From: someone Will a predominant culture, i.e. users from the UK or from USA assimilate by sheer force of numbers smaller groups in terms of expectations and norms of behaviours? Yes, it's already happening to an extent. People bend and break to peer pressure far too often, whether it be the need to feel accepted, or just wanting to be a part of the big "in-crowd". From: someone I can usually tell if someone is from the UK, for example. There is a certain irreverence that is more "in your face" than an avitar from California. BUT should I be able to do this? Absolutely. From: someone Should we not be simply sl-ers? No, see above. From: someone A person from a develping nation exploring the internet for the first time can often need help just adjusting to the language and meaning we apply simply because English - to that person - may be a second-language. Should we start to make adjustments for that person/cultural group? This is a huge problem even among those who's native language is english. Words can have different meanings, and attitudes are hard to decipher in text, there is no body language to read, no vocal nuances to pick up on. I began learning the english language around 8 or 9 years of age and I still have trouble with it in various aspects. The best way to help those who need it is just be blunt and say what you mean. There's no need to beat around the bush when there is a language barrier to overcome; it only makes things that much more difficult. From: someone Should we start to expect a code of behaviour (not a T. of S.) that is culturally a secondlife series of expectations? Can that happen here or will we all forever be our real culture first and adopt a cyber skin but NOT a cyber-cultural identity? We pretty much have that already. It's called common sense behavior. Do unto others... etc. People seem to forget that it's really a matter of just behaving in a respectable manner. The anonymity of the internet tends to bring out the worst in people because they don't fear any real-world implications of their actions.
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11-21-2007 07:11
/me applauds Garrett!
Hi Garrett!
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Isabeau Imako
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11-21-2007 07:14
From: Haravikk Mistral That's a bit biased against humans in future that do not come from earth, or other species entirely =P
As for culture, my behaviour and the way I apply my views and morals/ethics is completely different on SL than it is to real-life. I'm more of the "anything goes" mentality on SL but in RL I'm not always so forgiving of some practices/traditions/etc. that other people have that I do not. I'm not a closed minded person, and like to feel I'm not overly biased, but my opinions matter to me more in real-life applications, but on SL I tend not to apply them so strictly. I have to agree, in SL I have a much more "laissez-faire" attitude. If I ever saw some of the avvies in RL, I'd freak!
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Garrett Laramide
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11-21-2007 07:14
From: Chris Norse /me applauds Garrett!
Hi Garrett! /me grins and waves to Chris.
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11-21-2007 07:26
From: bilbo99 Emu /me looks down at the heap of broken glass behind the clubhouse bar and bites lip.
Garrett made me do it!
It's true, I did!
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bilbo99 Emu
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11-21-2007 07:34
From: SuezanneC Baskerville It's long past time that folks saw themselves as humans from earth first and citizens of nations not at all. I like the idealism here but as humorously pointed out by the example of the Klingon and the Ferengi, it can't really, really happen. I pointed out the -isms thinking primarily racism. Now while the hatred and prejudice is unwanted we can't ignore the fact we are different across the world. Just the physiological differences between West Africans and East Africans just an example. OK, on the score of physiology you can say 'heck, bipeds then!' but until we have one church (compulsory!) and one government, world-wide, we will remain having differences. Virtual Worlds serve the Real World, not vice versa. Now, my SL-ing in the last year may have affected my behaviour. Morgaine thinks it has, but it's only within the limits of socialising. I might be speaking with more foreign nationals than I used to but I don't think SL is helping me break down the differences, merely traverse them. For this last, I shall be eternally grateful. It's been the best year of my life.
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Broccoli Curry
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11-21-2007 07:40
Most of the people I call friends in SL I find out afterwards where they're from... at the moment I'm talking to someone who lives just 50 miles from where I was born, and another who lives in Australia.
I take the avatar as I see them. Their behaviour and how they talk to me, and the sort of thing their profile says, is what determines to me whether I want to get to know someone more than just a name on a screen. I couldn't care less whether they're gay, bi, straight, tg, black, white, pink, green, animal mineral or vegetable.
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11-21-2007 07:41
From: Garrett Laramide It's true, I did! Hi there Hot Stuff! 
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Brenda Connolly
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11-21-2007 07:42
/me applauds Garrett, thanks Chris, and smiles and blushes at Cherry
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