Your Second Life Will

I'd want my account, island, and things to be opened up to all to learn from somehow. I wouldn't want my things to be sold, but given out so people could learn from what I did. I think that's the best way to pass something on.

Ever since you told me about your illness when Merlin and I made you that stepping script, I have had you in my RL prayers and will continue to do so. *hugs*

Thank You so much Sae Also for that script it is wonderful... I am loveing it!! Hugsss and again thanks for the RL prayers I appreciate all I get and have all in mine as well.

This is an important issue, especially if you have developed a successful business and significant assets in SL.

I thought about this alot several months ago when I came inches from being in a high speed head on collission on the highway.

People die every day, you could be next.

Who do you want your SL assets to go to?

If you want them to be handled in your RL will, they should be described there, and if possible you should designate and SL executer who knows the in's and out's of SL and can assist the heir with the transfer. This is especially necessary if you want to split your assests up between several avatars.

It occured to me that many people in SL may be leading a Second Life here that they don't necessarily want thier RL family, relatives and friends to know about. So what do they do with thier SL assets and account? Say you are partnered and married in SL or even just have a significant other that you want to inheriet your SL assets, but you don't want your RL world to know about them. You can't very well leave it to them in your RL will. I think your SL Avatar should have the right to pass your assets on to your SL family and friends.

Obviously the best way to deal with this is to have a trusted friend take care of these matters for you if something were to happen to you. In order to really do that you would have to be able to entrust them with your account password. A possibly risky undertaking depending on how much you trust your friend. **

If there is a single SL heir that you want to give everything to, or most everything to, it becomes much simpler to arrange to give them the password to your account along with instructions on how you want your assets divided up.

I suppose you could include in your will a private, non-disclosed portion, for the distribution of your SL assets, that your RL attorney or executer would be responsible for handling, that would not be shared with anyone else in your RL. Something like "All Second Life assets will be distrubuted to SL friends and business partners in accordance with the wishes of the deceased. Such wishes to remain private".

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** Correction: It is apparently not a violation of the TOS to share your account name and password with other people, if you look closely at the TOS wording it simply warns you that you are responsible for any problems if you do so.

You read this first here.

I am entirely serious, and I am not insane.

I want my avatar, and my account, and my name here, to continue after my death. With the full knowledge of everyone. They would be taken over by someone I trust implicitly. Tid would go on. She would become - perhaps - legendary, someone that more and more residents came to know as time went past. She already has, to some extent, a life of her own, like a character in a novel. It wouldn't take a lot to continue that, even though there would be subtle changes over time as her operator changed.

Why should she ever die? She could form her own group in SL - The Tid Kidd Foundation - and do good works in an irreverent and non-pious way.

This is my bid for fame and immortality.

I am entirely serious, and I am not insane.

You read this first here.

well perhaps there could be a system, where if you dont log in for x amount time, your passwd or assets are transferred to av y.

i wouldnt cheapen you obvious adoration in such a way raymond

Necro Post here to give some info to people if they want a lawyer to consult re: SL holdings.


First here is the article:

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/business/story.html?id=9e865c9c-bc7b-4168-adf8-4270a33f7f9c&k=83192


And here is the SLURL:

http://slurl.com/secondlife/Zurich%20City/99/240/27

Disclaimer: I don't know these people or how good they are; I'm going to check them out for my own holdings but they sound interesting. Posted for info purposes only.

FWIW, if people want to contact an attorney, they need to do it in their own jurisdiction. If they are in the US, that means the state in which they live. That jurisdiction's estate and probate law will control the disposition of their property when they pass, and before you ask, yes, I know that LL's servers are located in CA and WA and maybe elsewhere. It doesn't matter. A state court with proper jurisdiction can have jurisdiction over property and people in another state. It happens all the time.

It would be interesting to see how a court would handle SL property. Intellectual property rights are certainly transferrable. Hmmm. Of course, I expect the issue will never be resolved because if a court order is presented to Linden Labs ordering them to turn an account over to an heir, LL will be very unlikely to challenge that order. There's nothing in it for them except bad press, and appeals cost tens of thousands of dollars.

I can't even afford a first life Estate or copyright attorney, so I don't know about SL matters.
I am artist on fixed budget. I couldn't ever come up with attorney fees in real life.
If people steal and sell my stuff their nothing I can do about it but be flattered they think they can make money off it. But I would be bit sad since literally I have very little..
Recently was looking into information about of something about power of attorney wills and like realized that I don't have enough resources or first life people to who willing be appointed or that I could trust to excute a first life medical or legal decissions so that would include even a second life will. When time gets closer and if I am still playing SL I figure out something. I have closer friends here then I have anywhere else.
When the time grows nearer I just give them all my assets.

I consider that Broadly Offensive

This is becomming an increasingly interesting area of property and probate law aside from some virtual assets in a small virtual world. For example, Google may have gigabytes of your correspondence and documents; while you are alive you retain sole control, when you expire, would you want your kin to have access to that (or your Flickr account, as another example). We've got long established rules for the distribution of physical goods, but the virtual is yet quite unknown.

Last Will and Testament V1.10 FREE

This script package is released to the public with full permissions for the benefit of all. Excluding the permission to sell this script or the object it came in. DO NOT SELL THIS SCRIPT.

This SL Last Will and Testament scripted object that will send out any message, notecard, object, etc. that you desire, to the avatar you choose, should you fail to log into SL for 29 days. You can use this device to transfer your assets, information, etc., to a friend or loved one, with any final message you might want to send. It works by checking to see if you are logged in once every 5 minutes. If you fail to log in after 29 days, it sends out an email, notecard and object to the heir (avatar) of your choice. It also sends out a reminder to the Owner every 7 days during the countdown, to make sure the Owner does not forget it is running, and a final warning 24 hours before it executes the Owner's last wishes.

I created a forum thread on XStreet here where people can discuss ways to improve this scripted object.

I will keep the latest version of the Last Will & Testament available here on XStreet SL and at my store in Shona. VRchitecture Model Homes, Shona (67, 215, 30) http://slurl.com/secondlife/Shona/67/215/30/

The scroll shaped box this comes in is 3 prims, You can move the contents of the scroll into any single prim object that you keep rezzed in SL if you so desire, such as an XStreet magic box.

-------IMPORTANT NOTE REGARDING THE SL TOS --------------
Paragraph 2.4 of our Terms of Service, specifically:

"You may not transfer your Account to any third party without the prior written consent of Linden Lab; notwithstanding the foregoing, Linden Lab will not unreasonably withhold consent to the transfer of an Account in good standing by operation of valid written will to a single natural person, provided that proper notice and documentation are delivered as requested by Linden Lab.

Our Support team requires the death certificate and will, an where required by law, other additional testamentary letters or orders. We may also require you to provide additional verification of your own identity."
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Comment: It is however apparently not a violation of the TOS to share your account name and password with other people for the purposes of managing your business and affairs. Many prominent businesses and organizations in SL have done this, such as NCI, XStreet, OnRez and The Shelter. For example, XStreet uses one avatar to place its terminals, any number of XStreet employees could be logging into that avatar to do its business.

Thanks for this awesome notification tool!

Interesting thought.

My first thought was that if something happened to me in RL and I actually died, that at least I have one friend in RL who knows who my main account is in SL, and who would be able to contact the groups I belong to, which would include my household members, and let them know I had passed the veil. Letting people know would be my biggest concern, having already had several SL friends just mysteriously vanish without a trace, and no way to know what happened, and with one SL accquaintance having died and having had that confirmed.

My next thought was that if my sim owner knew, he would almost certainly offer my parcel's continued use to my SL Partner, provided someone continued paying the maintenance costs. But I am the one who pays the bills for the parcel, and I don't know that my Partner, who does not have a very big SL income on her own, would be able to keep up with the monthly payments...

I could probably make arrangements with the store that I sell my textures through, that on reliable notice of my demise the profits from future texture sales should go to my SL Partner. That would cover the maintenance fees on the land we have shared. And that income would be likely to continue for quite a while after my demise, but would not be accessable to my RL realtives anyway, since my actual relatives don't do anything at all in SL, and are not interested in it. Hummm.

Then again, if my Player died, I don't think my SL Partner would want to hang around at my old parcel and continue living in the castle that I had built, surrounded by literally hundreds of reminders of my former presence, even though that would give her and my SL household continued use of what I have built up there.

The majority of my transferrable in-world assets she already has her own versions of anyway. Wouldn't be much sense in transferring any of that.

Food for thought though, certainly.

If this truly works, this sounds amazing! I will definitely get it! Thank you!

I keep trying to get my niece on SL.

A: She is an artist, and good with graphics
B: I could use her help and since her art is a little on the darker side, she could bring that element into my shop.
C: I would have someone to leave stuff to.

She's been a Sims addict since forever, but I can't seem to get her interested in SL. So at this point, I guess no one.

It is a grey area. Section 2.3 of the ToS says "You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your password and are responsible for any harm resulting from your disclosure, or authorizing the disclosure of, your password or from use by any person of your password to gain access to your Account or Account Name. At no time should you respond to an online request for a password other than in connection with the log-on process to the Service. Your disclosure of your password to any other person is entirely at your own risk."

That section seems to say that you can share you password without violating the ToS, but you do so at your own risk.

On the other hand the next section of the ToS (2.4) states that, " A single account may be used by a single legal entity at Linden Lab's sole discretion and subject to Linden Lab's requirements."

The 2.4 language implies the usage of the same account by multiple people is limited to "single legal entit[ies]" and is a privilege granted by LL that can be revoked at will.

Section 2.4 goes on to say that, "You may not transfer your Account to any third party without the prior written consent of Linden Lab; notwithstanding the foregoing, Linden Lab will not unreasonably withhold consent to the transfer of an Account in good standing by operation of valid written will to a single natural person, provided that proper notice and documentation are delivered as requested by Linden Lab."

The question then becomes--is there a difference between allowing access and transferring an account. Anyone who has your password can change that password, locking you out of your account. But the ToS seems "access" and "transfer" as two different animals.

My reading of the ToS is that:

a) LL knows that they can't enforce a rule against sharing passwords, so they make it clear that doing so is at your own risk, and they don't bear the responsibilty for cleaning up any messes that result from it,

b) LL considers alowing access to an account and transfering your account to be two different things, and

c) It is okay for "legal entities" to share accounts, "at Linden Lab's sole discretion and subject to Linden Lab's requirements". Since LL has never posted any such requirements, and had--as a matter of practice--used their "sole discretion" to ignore such shared accounts, we have their tacit permission do to so.

That's how I interpret the ToS when it comes to the various NCI special purpose accounts. The password to the master NCI account (that holds most of our money, and owns NCI Land Holdings) is known by myself and one other person. The password for personal account--which has a lot of stuff I've made, bought, uploaded, etc. for NCI--is also known by one other (different) person. So If I become seriously incapacitated or die, NCI can and will continue without me.

Yep, that is pretty much the way I see it too.

Wouldn't want to leave anything to SL friends - it would be creepy. What would they do with it, also. Walk around in my used clothing? No...

I'd just hope they had good memories of me, that's all.

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(Re: LL and 'no other user accessing account' - can think of 2 possible legal reasons. 1. the 2nd person griefs/destroys and without that rule they cannot hold you liable. 2. the other person destroys your inventory or you, and the rule is to protect you from that.)

I have a letter in my lawyer's keeping and instructions on how to inform Hal. He has done teh same. He has also willed a picture that I know he owns in real to me and I have done the same for him. They are NOT sl creations but have significance in our relationship.

I would like/intend to leave our properties to SL/Lindens as "free galleries" of sl art for future users. I wont need the money from the sale of the land and neither will Hal.

As I have always maintained (much to Hal's consternation) if I "die" in sl by chance or by intent of another, then I die. No more Jig. No more me. If love can be "real" here, then so can death.

Thanks to SL's new policy on freebies posted at SLX I will no longer be able to offer this there. I sold 217 of these for $0 in the 8 months I have had it listed at SLX.

It will remain available at my store in SL, but I'm beginning to doubt I will keep it open much longer. Meanwhile you can still get it free at SLX.

O.o honey

1st Life - your doing it wrong.


(psst nothing in second life is real and your betting the house on it so to say? Please you may not like me but you need to change a few things in your life then. Everything we do here is entertainment, expensive enterainment but none the less its what it is. Don't throw away your most important aspect of being Sarah, which is YOU! The real you.)

Eh, Im not likely to die any time soon, so I dont have to worry about this for a while. (Famous last words?)

Wow, this thing has shambled back to life TWICE! I'm impressed, actually.