Your Second Life Will

Ok I did a full blog post about my feelings and thoughts on this subject here http://www.your2ndplace.com/node/446 But was wondering, If You died in real life, is there anything in Your Second Life that You would like passed along to Your SL freinds and family? Your Island? Your Favorite Items?

And here's my (shameless plug)blog link for my full feelings on the subject.
http://www.your2ndplace.com/node/446

Dang Sarah, that's deep. To be honest, and totally selfish, I'd rather my business died with me, rather than pass it on to someone who might not have the same vision as I do. Land, meh, I'd will it to one of my inworld friends that I know could handle the tier.

What about passing along some RL assets to our SL friends.

LOL I probably have more assets in second life than I do in real life. Actually, there are a very small handful of people in game I would like to have a piece of my real life if I were to die.

I was thinking about this a few days ago when I was being tested for something very serious at the DRs.

I think I would like my business to go to someone in my RL family. It has a very nice RL cash flow and I dont know anyone in game well enough to hand it over to them. If it went to someone in my family all they would be able to do is maintain it, no one in my family is artistic enough to be able to create for it. No new releases for months the business my begin to die a slow death, then id meet it in the after life...lol




My question is though, how would LL handle this? Would they go out and verify that person A really died and wants to give his things to person B, C, and D? Do we need to use the avatars RL names, or are their SL names sufficient? etc

Bit of a tender subject there Sarah ... BUT I hope that im bloody old before i pop my clogs.
But I would like to hope that if such a thing ever did happen then my wife would continue where I left off, as we have stores next to each other it might be a bit hard for her but i would want to have at least some sort of thing for her to have of me.
PLUS .... I would want either a zombie or skeleton AV, so that she could log me in .... sit me at my shop desk......

And so SECOND DEATH is formed.


But on a mroe serious note.... a good friend of mine on SL Mike B***** has this week lost his father to cancer, allthough this person who i can not name is handling this situation more than well, I can only say that it goes to show how fragile life is, and allthough we all see second life as a retriet for a lot of the crap that first life brings us for many of us it brings us many other things such as friends and social groups that many just dont understand.

Ah hear ya on the leaving some the business aspect alive for RL family.
And I'm sorry to hear about the real life testing situation =(

I have thought about this alot since I have been Bed Bound for going on 10 years now and my illness has progressed to me just existing and waiting. When I first became ill I was on 2 litters of oxygen and now am on 10 so not sure how much higher one can go, but definately not doing very well.

But I would probably leave my business to my son and what ever happens after that really wont matter, hopeing he can keep it going until.... From what I understand along time ago LL said you cant give your account to anyone else unless you got permission and not sure they ever changed thier policy. Back then maybe a simple phone call and letting them know the situation and them ok when that time came might have been enough but now, one is lucky to talk to anyone on the phone:/

I had a sad experience some time ago when an elderly gentleman avatar asked me back to his ballroom to dance. We chatted for a while and I IM'd with him occasionally.

I didn't hear from him for a while and I went back to the ballroom where I met someone who said the guy had died in RL.

Of course, one never knows for sure if that's true but I felt sad.

Wud yew be my speshul SL fwend pwease???


I think that passing on a business to an RL mind could mean the slow death of that business.
I think that it might actually be unfair. It could put a huge guilt trip on the person, making them feel like they are betraying a memory if they let it slide.

So far in SL, I've just built for enjoyment, and in every plot I've sold bar one as I moved on, the new owners have kept my builds. None of them are houses. They are SL builds.
I don't claim that they are earth-shatteringly awesome, but many people liked them
They were always open to all, and it would be nice to think of the most fun ones continuing to be so.

But even leaving that sort of a build could be putting a burden on someone. They would have to maintain it, dealing with any grief in and around it.
That happens with memorial sites around SL at the moment. Some of those memorials have to allow rezzing in order to function as designed.


Overall, I think that unless one has a very close SL friend who is really into the soul of whatever it is you are doing in SL, then it would be better to let your SL die alongside your RL. It would be a good idea to instruct your RL heirs/lawyers to keep the account live for a short time, and tell then how to inform your SL contacts.





Note: In the case where you have a responsibility towards tenants who have paid rents up front, I suppose that the business would run on auto-pilot for longer than the rental term.

Still in the TOS, para 2.4:

You may not transfer your Account to any third party without the prior written consent of Linden Lab; notwithstanding the foregoing, Linden Lab will not unreasonably withhold consent to the transfer of an Account in good standing by operation of valid written will to a single natural person, provided that proper notice and documentation are delivered as requested by Linden Lab.

omg Zazas I had no idea. Im so sorry Thats horrible. Hang in there.

Thanks, wish me luck, im getting a tube shoved up my arse soon. lol


haha!

Yeah you bring up a good point.

I have someone in game i trust very much, but id rather the money go to my RL family. what I would probably do is have my SL partner take care of the customer service aspect as she knows and understands my products and then have her fwd the money to my RL family. That would probably work best.

Sure the business would end up dying off/slowing down due to lack of new products so If she felt it was she could always sell it. But while its reaping harvest I would like for my family in RL to have the profits of my work.

in 2004,i was very suddenly removed from being in control of my life:

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i fractured my neck in three places,a truck ran over the cab of the van.
As the roof collapsed,
( the photos show it raised after the emergency services extracted me)
it wrapped itself around me, and very probably saved me from losing my head altogether, since it immobolised it.. stopping it from being moved.....

i spent a month in coma, another three months in hospital, secured in a steel cage,another six months getting myself back into some resemblence of the point before the accident. the story is involved.. it doesnt need to be related here.

i am very fortunate. ive been given a second chance at life, everyday now is a new day..

The issue i am raising, from the above personal experience is how important it is to make sure that in the event one is suddenly and without warning, taken.. how important it is to have in place , the things neccessary to take care of ones personal possessions and environment.

My PC held all my passwords, secure and safe, but because of that , no one could access anything on it.. Bank account info , bills, mortgage info, e mail contacts, friend info etc etc..anything with a password..
It was four months before i was able to to begin again, everything stopped for four months, no bills paid.. no friends notified, nothing..
As a consequence of the chaos that eventually i was able to take care of, i have put in place information with family on how such stuff as PC contents can be accessed if i cannot.

What happens when one dies, isnt something one can be comfortable with,but it must be in place.

Whats the purpose of this? I really dont understand the logic in it, is it because there is credit card info on some profiles?

I remember when I was new I joined SL with my best RL friend. She made her own account and I made my own. She did not know how to customize her avatar so she told me to sign on as her and make her shape. I had problem with something at one point and IMd live help and mentioned I was on a friends account, he got EXTREMELY nasty with me and told me he was going to report me and to log off "NOW!" I said, no, whats the logic in it? this is my RL friend, shes sitting right here, and youre telling me to get off of her account? What if it were my RL wife is it against the rules to go on my wifes account? He told me yes as well, that wasnt even allowed.

The problem is LL knowing about it. Once you tell them, they have to slap it down.

There's a similar situation in RL. Some services will not talk to anyone but the account holder. There are times when I contact RL services and say that I am my elderly relative. No amount of logic or 'common sense' will help. It's black and white. If the service representative knows that the person they are talking to is not the account holder, they put could themselves and their organisation in a very dangerous legal position.

If you are going to use common sense, it's best not to tell anyone about it.
Common sense does not cut it in the legal domain.

Well I'd like all my belongings to be given to my friends.
, especially all the lindens and land I have stored in various alts and websites.

Wouldn't it be strange if you could get a will in SL, of course it would be very difficult to set up considering you'd need Linden Labs, SLX, WSE, and all other shopping sites, bank sites etc all to be involved.

I'm taking my shoes and hair with me. The rest you guys can have.

I would leave most things to my real life fiance, who is also an SL resident. My new airship (if search ever comes back online so I can go buy it - seriously the money is burning a hole in my pocket!) I will leave to be shared by my fellow Forumites.

It's a very important issue and I think it should be discussed much much more. Sure there are problems and it's going to be complicated but I vote that this issue gets more discussion.

I'd want my land to be passed onto my in-world mommy, or to someone in the family who can take care of it - because it's group owned, dis shouldn't be a problem.

I'd pass my businesses onto Robin, to keep on the island as long as she wants.

Mu clothing inventory could go to my sister.

Other goods to be divided amongst the rest of my family.

Mari

if my hubby would ever sit and do it, i'd want him to sell all my stuff and cash out. if not that, then quietly give the password to my RL friend in SL and she can have all the booty.

Best wishes to you Zazas. I'm glad you have a Second Life to enjoy.

My turn to LOL.

I am still relatively new to SL and since I treat my time here as entertainment, I have been more of a consumer paying RL money into clothes, shoes, jewelry, live SL musicians and my monthly tier on my SL home. So outside the occasional reasonably well paying job helping a SL musician friend as her assistant, I pay into the SL economy and I am okay with this since I work all day long in RL.

My RL assets are substantial (low debt on a nice house, retirement plan and some sellable assets). Now I am in my late 30s and knock on wood in good heatlh. But I participate in a less than safe sport (I am a RL skydiver) and since I know life can be taken away from any one of us at any time due to accident or illness (my uncle has been diagnosed with brain cancer and has been given less than one year and my aunt is sick in the hospital), it is important to have an up to date RL will. Not only is my RL will in need of updating, I am thinking of possibly including 2 (maybe more) SL friends in it. Instructions would need to be left with my executor and he/she would have to log into SL, IM these people and explain to them what happened and then have my SL friends forward their RL contact info to the excutor.

Of course things change in RL and SL. Friends come and go. But currently at least 2 (maybe a couple more) SL friends have made a real positive impact on me here (when life has me down or I am feeling stale in SL, these friends without them often even knowing this, have the ability to lift up my spirits) and I would love to leave them a slice of the pie. Now let's just hope that my executor doesn't need to go through this task anytime soon and note to self ... update your will you silly girl, it is out of date.

Jessica ...

Unless LL can violate the US Constitution, they would have to honor a RL Last Will and Testemont that wished an heir to have access to all they had built up in SL. So that would mean either LL would have to allow transfering of NoTransfer items, or simply allow the heir to use that account upon reciept of the relevant legal documents associated.

Basically, they either give the account to the heir, create the heir an account and transfer all land ownership/items from the previous account to that one, or wind up being sued in court and giving the heir all of SL.

@Zazas
I really don't know what to say, so just... *hugs softly*

~Jessy

You are free to asign anything of which you are the owner of that a tangable asset, to will that to anyone of your hearts desire.. but only in RL. That can include such things as certain types of 'data/vapourware' such as a SL asset. This would prevent the whole thing going into Probate, delaying the process (the good idea for creating a will, if you can't think of any others).
The only problem with some Vapourware, is the Data Protection Act, which may prevent you giving access to a 3rd party, to that information. LL can transfer access to an account on receipt of authorised proof, but they maybe prevented from giving total access, to data which comes under the act. I'm no lawyer, so seeking professional advice would be prudent.