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Invasion of the Chat Log Snatchers!!

Pserendipity Daniels
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08-17-2009 08:43
Never believe *anything* that people tell you about SL . . .

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Marin Mielziner
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08-17-2009 08:47
I'm thinking it's time to rethink the marriage...but then it's none of my business.
Phoenixa Sol
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08-17-2009 08:56
If there is that little trust, and this many headgames... seems this relationship is in serious trouble.
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08-17-2009 08:57
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
Either way, you're surrounded by liars and snoops and probably have good reason to distrust these people. (=_=)
If she is worried about hubby finding the chat logs, then she is probably just as distrustful in this situation.
:rolleyes:
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08-17-2009 08:57
From: Darien Caldwell
"... hmm, If I tell her I got her chat logs (using 'open source' tee hee), I can probably get her to confess what she's doing. I can probably make some good guesses as to what one may be doing while in SL. This should be fun..."


You can't use 'open source' to do anything. It's a software license philosophy. It's not a thing.

prim attachment listener... s'all I'm saying.
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Imnotgoing Sideways
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08-17-2009 09:10
From: Void Singer
prim attachment listener... s'all I'm saying.
Still won't pick up IMs. (^_^)y
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Pussycat Catnap
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08-17-2009 12:27
WTF Is going on between you and your husband that causes this to be a concern for you?

Get a divorce if its that bad.
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Gabriele Graves
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08-17-2009 13:57
From: Phoenixa Sol
If there is that little trust, and this many headgames...
It has been my experience that this very much defines the "SL marriage" :cool:
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Callista Ronas
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08-17-2009 15:24
From: Raudf Fox
Wow.. seems like there's more problems here than just chat logs.

Did he SHOW you the chat logs? If not, he might just be pulling your leg.


Yes, he did show them to me...he sent them to me in an email.
Callista Ronas
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08-17-2009 15:28
While I'm certain that many people would have a good chuckle at my expense about the marital problems I currently find myself in, I posted this question as a query into the possibilities of when and how this situation could have happened. If you have something to offer other than criticism on my character or valuative jugements on my marriage I'd love to hear it. I'm really looking for more technology related answers. I already have friends with whom I can talk about my relational issues.
23rdDjin Negulesco
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08-17-2009 15:35
here's a possibility to consider: if he, too, is in SL, has he ever gifted you with an item which you never take off? possibly scripted with a device that records and IMs the chat to him...
which could be why your he knows nothing about your alt...
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08-17-2009 16:12
From: Callista Ronas
While I'm certain that many people would have a good chuckle at my expense about the marital problems I currently find myself in, I posted this question as a query into the possibilities of when and how this situation could have happened. If you have something to offer other than criticism on my character or valuative jugements on my marriage I'd love to hear it. I'm really looking for more technology related answers. I already have friends with whom I can talk about my relational issues.


People who reveal personal information about their personal lives (as you did in your initial post) should know that they opened the door to others offering opinions on, not only the how, but the WHY.

You told us you thought the Linden Lab servers or Second Life have been hacked because you recieved chat logs of your doings while in the game. You've been told several times that that is very unlikely. You've also been adviced of several other ways your husband could have gotten hold of your chat logs. Your continuing to keep this thread alive with subseqent postings implies you have not recieved enough information to satisfy you. So now it seems there is nothing more constructive to comment on........and the "judgemental" or opinions about your personal life are cropping up. You opened that can of worms. Your question has been answered...........stop reading if you are offended. There is little less to talk about in this thread.
Raudf Fox
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08-17-2009 16:33
From: Callista Ronas

I'd like some clarificaton on this, and perhaps some instruction on how to retrieve chat logs. After all, Turn about is fair play...


Folks, THIS is what she wants.
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Gabriele Graves
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08-17-2009 16:37
From: Raudf Fox
Folks, THIS is what she wants.
When you set out to get revenge, make sure you dig two graves :cool:
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08-17-2009 16:41
From: Gabriele Graves
When you set out to get revenge, make sure you dig two graves :cool:



(so far, you're the only one i dig...)
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Gabriele Graves
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08-17-2009 16:43
From: 23rdDjin Negulesco
(so far, you're the only one i dig...)
Why thank you *fans self*, is it me or is it hot in here suddenly?
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23rdDjin Negulesco
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08-17-2009 16:46
don't really know that i should be flattered by that...

considering the body temperature of a vampire...

(unless you've fed recently)
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Gabriele Graves
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08-17-2009 16:48
From: 23rdDjin Negulesco
don't really know that i should be flattered by that...

considering the body temperature of a vampire...

(unless you've fed recently)
I always keep well fed ;)
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Void Singer
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08-17-2009 17:02
From: Imnotgoing Sideways
Still won't pick up IMs. (^_^)y

considering that most people don't bother with IM if "there's no one around" it's pretty much all that's needed in most cases.
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Kyrah Abattoir
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08-17-2009 17:45
One of the great wonders of crypted ims is that LL's IM log is scrambled, wich means i can tell you anything i want, not only you have no proofs but I can't even be ARed for it.
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Lindal Kidd
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08-18-2009 09:34
From: Callista Ronas
...I'd like some clarificaton on this, and perhaps some instruction on how to retrieve chat logs. After all, Turn about is fair play...


Turn about is not fair play. Foul play is foul play, regardless of who's doing it.

Monitoring chat remotely, without the knowledge and consent of those being monitored, is against the Terms of Service.

AR your SL partner, de-partner him, mute him, and move on.
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08-18-2009 09:56
It would take a world-class hacker to pull the chat/IM logs from LL.

It wouild take dramatically less ability to get this info from your computer, your network, or your friends. Or as an alt you don't suspect.

The easiest trick is finding your deleted files, even if you've emptied the trash. Things get harder after that, and in general only feasible without serious ability if he's instrumented your computer or your home network.

Do you have a good idea which people he's recorded your IMs from?

Do you use a different computer at work, or is it the same one (laptop)?

It would not be difficult for someone to build an SL client that logs your chats and IMs in a secret place and replace your SL viewer with it, if that person has access to your computer. This is way, way, way easier than hacking LL's logs. I could do this easily, I wouldn't know where to begin trying to hack LL's logs. Even if I knew how to thwart their security, I wouldn't know where to look in their filesystems!

Another option would be an "inside job", if he's friendly with an SL employee who has access to the logs. And if that friend is willing to face a prison term.

BTW, while chat can be logged by a scripted object, IMs cannot, at least, not without cooperation with some nonstandard viewer.
Day Oh
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08-18-2009 10:59
From: someone
Your husband didn't grab your chat logs from the Linden servers.


From: someone
Linden Lab's servers are pretty tightly locked down to any unauthorized intrusion.


From: someone
Or else, if he's even a marginally talented hacker, he's hacked your work network - which is damn near guaranteed to be one hell of a lot less secure than LL's is.


From: someone
It would take a world-class hacker to pull the chat/IM logs from LL.


I wonder why you guys decided that so strongly? Is it because of the sheer volume of fixed issues? Or because they never disclose them afterward?
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Kidd Krasner
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08-18-2009 11:02
From: Lear Cale

Another option would be an "inside job", if he's friendly with an SL employee who has access to the logs. And if that friend is willing to face a prison term.

Many breeches are due to social engineering attacks, in which the employee is an unwitting accomplice. Things like "Hey, this is Philip, could you please email me so-and-so's chat log?" So an inside job doesn't necessarily imply a malicious employee.

I'm not sure whether a prison term would even be involved if it were deliberate, unless it was done for theft or other illegal purposes.
Argent Stonecutter
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08-18-2009 11:16
From: Day Oh
I wonder why you guys decided that so strongly?
Because if it was actually practical someone in Something Awful or 4Chan would have done it and splashed it all over the net years ago.
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