XStreet Spam

Well, off topic or not, I think you are right about how hard they are pushing it, especially in view of these new emails which seems to be spamming the masses and promising the moon.

If you didn;t get the email, here is a bit more of the one to merchants:



Notice that last line.

The first line also gives me a laugh considering the outcry when everyone found out they were doing away with the integrated OnRez vendor system. I wonder how close we are to actually seeing these new features since they are included in the emails.

yes better marketing tools and advertising ways than those who were banned by regular members of SL before they were bought by LL.

Sounds just completely ridiculous to me and unfair completely. No real sense in creating and being a merchant anymore I'd say for anyone who was banned because of SLX's forum staff.

It seems that all Second Life residents are receiving this spam,
not just those who have accounts on SLX.

(At least, I know of residents who have never been on SLX
in any way, who are not Premium SL accounts, etc.
Just random SL users. Everyone I've asked has gotten
the same spam.)

I gotta just add. Anyone who knows the way some were banned by the forum staff from SLX knows that those staff members are loving this at the moment. It seemed they use to get a real kick out of banning people and now its probably just a wonderful feeling knowing they screwed people out of the lively hoods and alternative sources of income in these times.

I'm not speaking for just myself here. I don't rely on SL for my income but I know a lot who did.

I just realized my NPIOF alt got it too, and I am SURE that account didn;t have an xstreet or OnRez account. This is very odd.

It's all Second Life residents. None of the emails went to my secondary account which I used for Raudf and she was registered with Onrez and XStreet with it. It was all in my primary account. Same goes for my two alts. I thought that was strange.

*shakes head* Still, LL is making a stupid choice spamming people like that. It's going to drive merchants away, because we don't want to be associated with spam.

agree with raudf on steering some people away.

I think it will be irritating to spam either way.. But why spam people who aren't allowed to use the service. Thats definitely spam. They even say at the bottom of the page I got it because I agreed to have announcements about Linden Lab services or something. Well I wasn't aware they'd be offering me things I couldn't use.

edit to add>

Is LL even aware that some people aren't even able to use a service that LL now offers to the public?

I have recieved 2 e-mails on this name and 3 on my Main name. And I was just logged into XSTREET yesterday.

Yes, this thread covers 2 different kinds of emails. The first (the posts are older) seem to have been emails to accounts that hadn't been logged on to xStreet in awhile, this new wave today seems to be sending one (or more) to most everyone.

Keep in mind, Onrez goes poof on the 11th. They might be pushing these emails to get people to swap over to XStreet.

I hope that LL choses not to spam us again, because many might chose not to go to XStreet if they're sure that they're going to KEEP getting spammed.

And yes, if I get another email concerning it, I will unsubscribe from their little emailing list. Don't wanna have to, but...

I never had anything to do with either of those two services. Never signed up for them, never bought anything through them, never did any sort of business with them of any kind. None-the-less, I got two big advertisements from them within an hour this afternoon.

LL got that address as a billing contact, and was supposed to use it *only* as a billing contact. Before I gave them that address I made very sure that there was no fine print anywhere about them sending me any kind of marketing junk. If there had been, they'd never have gotten the address in the first place.

Looks like some marketing genius decided that it would be good business to spam the heck out anyone who made the mistake of trusting LL with their e-mail address.

I'm pissed of course, but after more than 3 1/2 years here I can't say I'm terribly surprised.

LL, why are you spamming me?

LL is spamming every account. I got one of the emails sent to each of my accounts (mostly bots) and none of them have ever registered at Xstreet. The whole account list is getting them. I've unsubscibed all of my SL accounts, including this one.

And the sad thing is that, like everything else that LL does to piss people off, the majority of users accept it with a smile, or aren't even aware of it, and everything continues as though nothing had happened.

I got 2 email notices.

The first was to me as a XStreet customer telling me about the change of ownership. Which was something I would have expected to be advised of.

The second was an advisory from the new owner telling me about what their plans are and how I might find something useful in this. Is a bit self-promotional but that to is something I would expect from a new owner.

If I get another email then I maybe feel a little bit less generous.

If you own multiple parcels and put up signs in-world displaying the email you're getting from LL, you'd be eligible for a networked advertising AR, right?

Yup, same as if you went to a mall and sent a notecard with said information to all store owners, you'd be liable for an AR.

Matter of fact I had six this morning. That does suck big time.

I've received the SPAM too.

"The Xstreet Marketplace can increase the inworld visibility of your products. Better marketing tools will make selling easier than ever."

That's a pretty overt promise of preferential treatment right there. That's sure to make anyone who was banned for life from SLX due to nothing more than SLX forum drama very happy. All merchants are equal, but some are more equal than others.

It seems a bit funny to me to think of the Governance team disciplining people for excess advertising on a few little signs on a few parcels when the advertisements came from the Governance team's company and might well be being sent to every single email address in LL's resident database.

It's very hypocritical but they have the get out clause that when we signed up we agreed that they could contact us in this manner, however it's certainly not in the spirit of the sort of announcements we expected them to send us.

I just realized that some of my friends were probably spammed by this. They were/are casual Second Life residents. Somehow, I don't think this level of spam is going to help their retention numbers any.

We all get so much spam anyways, I can't really see anyone leaving SL because one of these arrived in their inbox. I just make sure I uncheck any "contact me" boxes when I sign up somewhere and if I miss one then I opt out when I recieve and errant piece of spam. And I can't really say that I blame LL, let's face it this is going to be one hell of a hard year for everyone worldwide including LL.

If anyone is really, really mad and never wants their inbox defiled again in such a manner, there is an opt out option at the bottom of the email:

"You are receiving this announcement because you have agreed to receive messages relating to services offered by Linden Lab. For more information refer to Section 6.1 of our Terms of Service and our Privacy Policy. Safely unsubscribe from Linden Research, Inc. promotional emails."

Right - because you are advertising something to the community in general. Advertising like that *is* permitted, but there are limits on the dimensions and on the number of locations that you can use.

If you have a store and people sign up to a group or to a broadcast IM system, then you can send as much as you want to those people. Some of them might choose to leave the group or opt-out of what they opted into, but that's nothing to do with LL's TOS.
If I signed up for a group or store IM broadcast, and they sent me two IMs out of the blue, I seriously doubt that an AR would get much attention - and rightly.



And now for somwething completely different .......

LL is our service provider.
LL owns Xstreet and is in process of embedding some of it in SL.
Xstreet is SL-centric. It's for and of SL. SL owns it.
LL the service provider is sending emails related to its service to the people who signed up for their service.


I think that LL might provide an opt-out facility so that accounts can indicate that they do not wish to receive emails that are not specific to the account.
Other than that, they are the service provider. It is ridiculous to label a few emails from a service provider to its customers as spam.

Did anyone here get more than two Xstreet emails per account?

I can understand that someone with 99 alts would get an additional 99 sets, but hey ! .....

As a matter of fact, I get very little spam because I own the domain through which I send and receive emails and I'm very careful to blacklist sources of unsolicited communications. However, this constitutes spam of the worst kind since I am dependent on contact with the source from time to time.

They just should not do it.

Read the bottom note again: "Safely unsubscribe from Linden Research, Inc. promotional emails." The keyword is "promotional", you will not unsubscribe from Second Life, just the promotional notices.

If you have a relationship with them it's not spam. It may be annoying, undesirable, junk mail, whatever, but it's not spam.

I don't recall getting that email, I'll have to look in my junk mail box.