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Escort DeFarge
Together
Join date: 18 Nov 2004
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01-31-2009 17:28
This annoys me - Katt Linden stop spamming people -- do your job and find new customers/residents instead of annoying your current ones.

*ggggeeeeeezzzzzz*

/esc

*adds: and no I don't care that I "just had to hit the unsubscribe link" it's stupid and invasive -- just add up the resident time taken to read and unsubscribe == it's a stupid dumb idiotic lame waste of bandwidth -- both mental and physical

*adds again: yes i'm annoyed it's the lamest of marketing bs - Katt don't impress yourself that you've done anything --get out and do something REAL.

*adds yet again: LAME LAME LAME
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Ciaran Laval
Mostly Harmless
Join date: 11 Mar 2007
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01-31-2009 17:31
If residents do this inworld they can be Ar'd. If residents found a way of emailing peeps they'd be ar'd too. Why are Xstreet allowed to target customers in this fashion if everyone else can be ar'd for it?
Peggy Paperdoll
A Brat
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
Posts: 4,383
01-31-2009 17:32
From: Phil Deakins
I haven't needed any password. Click the "unsubscribe" link at the bottom of the email


Goes to show how long it's been for me. And I make it a very firm habit of NEVER, in anyway, doing anything with an email that I think might be spam...........including, clicking "opt out" links.
Kidd Krasner
Registered User
Join date: 1 Jan 2007
Posts: 1,938
01-31-2009 17:34
From: Escort DeFarge
This annoys me - Katt Linden stop spamming people -- do your job and find new customers/residents instead of annoying your current ones.

*ggggeeeeeezzzzzz*

/esc

*adds: and no I don't care that I "just had to hit the unsubscribe link" it's stupid and invasive and just add up the resident time taken to read and unsubscribe == it's a stupid dumb idiotic lame waste of bandwidth -- both mental and physical

*adds again: yes i'm annoyed it's the lamest of marketing bs - Katt don't impress yourself that you've done anything --get out and do something REAL.

*adds yet again: LAME LAME LAME

Can't you file an AR against Katt for spam?
Escort DeFarge
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01-31-2009 17:36
From: Kidd Krasner
Can't you file an AR against Katt for spam?

Good idea.
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Anya Ristow
Vengeance Studio
Join date: 21 Sep 2006
Posts: 1,243
01-31-2009 17:36
After unsubscribing I got five more:

Shop for your avatar and friends
Shop for your avatar and friends
Shopping just got a whole lot easier
Attract new buyers
Xstreet means more customers

Didn't take 'em long to **** up xstreet.
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Alisha Matova
Too Old; Do Not Want!
Join date: 8 Mar 2007
Posts: 583
01-31-2009 17:43
just got 3....keep this up and this will go down on their permanent record!

but really i just wanted to post this =P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
Winter Ventura
Eclectic Randomness
Join date: 18 Jul 2006
Posts: 2,579
01-31-2009 17:43
"Xstreet makes it easy to shop" x4
"Xstreet means more customers" x1
"Find new buyers" x1

6 in the last 2 hours.
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Raudf Fox
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Join date: 25 Feb 2005
Posts: 5,119
01-31-2009 17:44
I realize that tomorrow, Onrez goes bye-bye and they're gonna spam everyone that has an account there for it. That accounts for my three avatars, but not for why I got FIVE emails.

LL, just stop it. Most of us already realize you own XStreet. It's not like it's not obvious or anything. It's only pasted at the top of both websites! STOP EMAILING about it already!

I am sooo tempted to AR M Linden if I get any more tomorrow. :D
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Nimue Jewell
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Join date: 20 Mar 2007
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01-31-2009 17:52
/me agrees that today's mass spamming is annoying.

I have a question though.

One of the emails included this:

From: someone
What does this mean for my Xstreet store?

Customizable storefronts
New features, like Enhanced Premium Listings and online product recommendations
Tools that track both inworld and web-based transactions


What customizable storefronts? What sales tracking tools? Has anything changed yet?
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Jean Swashbuckler
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01-31-2009 17:56
From: Nimue Jewell


I have a question though.

One of the emails included this:



What customizable storefronts? What sales tracking tools? Has anything changed yet?


Hi Nim, one of mine says "it will soon..." so suspect these are functions that will happen in the future.
Loki Ball
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Join date: 9 Oct 2006
Posts: 85
01-31-2009 17:58
I was told I was banned and cannot sell at SLX by the old staff from the forums. Evidently I'm still banned cause I can't log in and when I wrote support at LL they told me any decisions made by SLX will remain the same for now.

Well..... Why on earth send me an email saying that second life is bringing more customers to my store from xstreetsl.. lol. I laugh but its really not that funny. They're now saying that they are integrating into SL and say this is one of second lifes services but I can't log into their service to use it?

Why send me an email stating I can then. I've written support a few times and they just give me the copy pasted response about my banning.

I was banned from the forums on SLX which lead to them also banning my merchant privileges. Banned I will add by regular members of Second Life. They had no affiliation to Second Life or Linden Labs at all. Now that LL has bought them out I would think that should change. Since this email I'm looking at proves even in the writing that its one of the services of Second Life. Well.... let me use the Second Life service then.
Nimue Jewell
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Join date: 20 Mar 2007
Posts: 1,745
01-31-2009 17:59
From: Jean Swashbuckler
Hi Nim, one of mine says "it will soon..." so suspect these are functions that will happen in the future.


Thanks Jean. :)

Hmmmm...wondering if I should have spent this weekend adding every item in my inventory to my xStreet listings rather working on new stuff and generally goofing around. :/
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Ciaran Laval
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01-31-2009 18:08
From: Loki Ball
I was banned from the forums on SLX which lead to them also banning my merchant privileges. Banned I will add by regular members of Second Life. They had no affiliation to Second Life or Linden Labs at all. Now that LL has bought them out I would think that should change. Since this email I'm looking at proves even in the writing that its one of the services of Second Life. Well.... let me use the Second Life service then.


I agree entirely, all bans should be erased, people weren't banned under the Second Life Terms of Service, it's out of order to uphold those bans.
Phil Deakins
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01-31-2009 18:08
From: Kidd Krasner
Can't you file an AR against Katt for spam?
You could if she was still around ;)
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Raudf Fox
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01-31-2009 18:11
From: Kidd Krasner
Can't you file an AR against Katt for spam?



File one against M Linden :D :p
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Blot Brickworks
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Join date: 28 Oct 2006
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01-31-2009 18:12
Since SL took over my Xstreet traffic has almost doubled ..............good
My inworld traffic has almost halved..........bad

What's the point of owning land and paying tier if SL wants everybody to shop XL?
I am waiting to see but I am thinking of selling up and going basic for the first time.
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Nimue Jewell
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01-31-2009 18:12
From: Ciaran Laval
I agree entirely, all bans should be erased, people weren't banned under the Second Life Terms of Service, it's out of order to uphold those bans.



I'm surprised they didn't wipe the ban list.
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Phil Deakins
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01-31-2009 18:12
From: Ciaran Laval
I agree entirely, all bans should be erased, people weren't banned under the Second Life Terms of Service, it's out of order to uphold those bans.
Agreed.
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Nimue Jewell
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01-31-2009 18:14
From: Blot Brickworks
Since SL took over my Xstreet traffic has almost doubled ..............good
My inworld traffic has almost halved..........bad

What's the point of owning land and paying tier if SL wants everybody to shop XL?
I am waiting to see but I am thinking of selling up and going basic for the first time.


My Xstreet traffic is up, but not that dramatically. I think waiting to see how this all plays out is a good plan.
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Megatron Gears
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01-31-2009 18:16
hmmm got one and i never signed up for xstreet <as far as i know>
Phil Deakins
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01-31-2009 18:18
From: Nimue Jewell
My Xstreet traffic is up, but not that dramatically. I think waiting to see how this all plays out is a good plan.
The way it's playing out is that LL is pushing XSSL as hard as they can, so that more people will buy there - so that LL can get a 5% cut. That's another thread, but the whole thing looks bad to me. I really do think they'll put XSSL in an inworld search tab, which will be diabolical for traders.

Sorry to write off-topic, but that's a pet gripe of mine. I'll shut up now about it, and stick to the spam topic.
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Blot Brickworks
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01-31-2009 18:22
From: Nimue Jewell
My Xstreet traffic is up, but not that dramatically. I think waiting to see how this all plays out is a good plan.


Yes you are right,I will give it some time.
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Loki Ball
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01-31-2009 18:22
From: Blot Brickworks

I am waiting to see but I am thinking of selling up and going basic for the first time.


My partner had a premium account. Shes also my GF in RL. After my account was banned last year on SLX her account was immediately banned too for some reason. She uses a different computer entirely but apparently they either used the main IP or knew she was my partner. Either reason is bad business now adays. She tried contacting SLX numerous times and they ignored her emails. Shes had a premium account in SL for a very long time since she joined. Shes had a membership for two years.

She got the same email I did and contacted support through live help. She also called last week. She got the same response. She needed to contact SLX support. Well shes tried that numerous times since last year. They ignored her.

She just downgraded her account to basic. I had to agree with her. There is no reason to have a premium account if you can't use all the services your entitled to. Let alone the free services offered.

She never had a problem being a premium member or had any complaints. This situation is a little different tho. Banned for no reason from a site that will be doing a large chunk of the marketing and shopping in SL it seems.
Ciaran Laval
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01-31-2009 18:23
From: Phil Deakins
The way it's playing out is that LL is pushing XSSL as hard as they can, so that more people will buy there - so that LL can get a 5% cut. That's another thread, but the whole thing looks bad to me. I really do think they'll put XSSL in an inworld search tab, which will be diabolical for traders.

Sorry to write off-topic, but that's a pet gripe of mine. I'll shut up now about it, and stick to the spam topic.


What I don't like about this, and other posters in this thread have said they don't think they signed upto Xstreet, is that this sort of targetted advertising is frowned upon inworld. I believe Elanthius recently got AR'd for sending neighbours details of plots for sale, that's targetted advertising, that's against the terms of service.

Linden Lab are leveraging their position in an unfair manner and this should be discouraged.

I do wonder at times if Linden Lab will ever think systemically, encouraging people to use XStreet won't pay tier bills, they really need to be careful what they're doing here.
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