New mainland continent: move the existing adult stuff or leave open to PG-only?

As I said in a reply on one of the LL blogs, I think the easier solution is to make this new mainland continent all PG. That would avoid anyone having to move.

Also when whole mainland sims get returned to LL for auction, as they do sometimes, LL could set them to PG if they wish. At the moment mainland seems to be like a currant bun, where the currants are PG sims within an overall bun of mature ones.

As long as I'm still able to go skinny dipping in the sea near my home from time to time, I'm not really worried too much about the proposals!

I don't understand what the purpose of this new continent is at all... no matter if it is for adult content or not. I'm a reasonably intelligent adult (at least I seem to be able to function as one in RL) and truthfully... this is all greek to me. What exactly is the purpose of having a continent different than what is out there now? Who will benefit either way? I do not sell adult content items but own mainland on a "mature" sim. I still haven't figured out the difference between that and my own PG sim. Is someone is going to tell me I cannot skinny dip on my own land...something which I have not done (well on a regular basis anyway) but love the fact I have the right to do so? How will either solution change what is in place in SL now?

So I guess I'm not seeing the whole picture here and do not undertand what LL is trying to do or for what purpose. I'm assuming it has to do with making more money...that is always the end purpose of every change LL makes to SL and as it is a business... I can understand that. But for the life of me...I do not understand what this is all about nor what effect this is going to have on my SL life as I know it now.

So I am going to have to vote for naughty pie...now that is something I can sink my teeth into.

They're changing the definition of both "M" and "PG", to the point that much currently acceptable "PG" material will have to move to "M", and much currently acceptable "M" material will have to move to "A".
This reminds me a lot of the whole "OpenSpace" debacle, where they defined the acceptable behavior for OpenSpace owners in terms of a bunch of "for example..." cases.

That's me. I couldn't afford the tier even if LL gave away land for free and I could really do with the extra acreage and prims. Now if I could only convince people that it's a good idea to pay and tip me at my shows. But, meh, everyone's so used to getting their music for free and paying top dollah for their shoes and sex toys

While I am quite in favour of a Red Light Continent in SL (easier to access an array of events, services, products etc.), the logistics involved will be a nightmare. However, Adult themed enterprises generally (I emphasize "generally" add to lag more than non Adult enterprises, so the entire continent may be too laggy for sexual and violent endeavours.

People just need to realize that LL is not going after your private intimate engagements, but attempting to organize a shift in overt Adult themed business, venues etc.

Personally, I'm eager to see what fantastic new lands are created when these persons have the freedom to do so.

I agree that logistically it may be easier to create a PG Island for businesses, religious folk, under 18s (when they get here), and the anti Adult contingent, but it's doubtful LL will opt for that as it looks better to investors if the Adult material has its own district (much like RL, the internet etc.).

We live in interesting times, as is said. Hopefully cooler and logical heads will prevail on all sides.

I can dream, can't I?

It puts the ad farm cleanup into perspective. It cleared out the old adfarmers to make way for the new group that will be appearing on the mainland. "Sexysluts.com" will now give way to more familiar names.

In real life we don't allow X rated theaters next to Walmarts, so why should we complain that SL no longer wants 'Sex with horses' next to 'Free Clothes for Newbies'?

It's not like they are banning sex with horses. They just want you to have sex with your horse away from the parks and shopping centers.

And if sex with horses in a park or shopping center is what really turns you on, then Pornlandia is the place for you to build and do your thing. Anywhere, anytime with anything.

That not only sounds accomodating to me, but setting aside a continenet sounds like the best way to help adult themed businesses to thrive. Are you here for the porn? Then just TP to Pornlandia and look for your favorite expression of cartoon sex.

And while the sex dungeon in the sim next to me will likely move, the majority of my neighbors will remain exactly where they are.

I really don't see the mainland being abondoned by this alleged porn goldrush. Even those who might spend most of their time in Porn Park with their Porn Pony (Copywrited), will want some private time away from their porn pony.

Just my thoughts.

Sigh. So let me get this straight... my business, which is totally PG, is located on the Mainland now.

If the Gestapo Continent is entirely Mature, I'll be one of like 3 businesses left on the Mainland, because everyone who even sells skins or lingerie will probably move over to Gestapo. Lots of businesses will move over there simply because there will be more people there.

If the Gestapo Continent is entirely PG, I'll have to pay more tier in order to establish an additional shop over there, to attract people who will never come over to the Mainland because it's *gasp* Mature!

Or I could consider moving my shop over to Gestapo altogether, which would invalidate every Pick, Landmark, etc that I've built up over the years, and send me to the bottom of Search.

Wonderful choices.

Funny, though, these public polls... I see so many names that I don't recognize. *waves to the lurkers*

Sex Farmers?

Ok..so let's see if I get this straight. I have a store where I create Happy Birthday or Rez Day balloon bouquets, centerpeices, banners, wedding banquet tables, planters with poofers (uh oh....one is lips shaped in a kissing position)..anyway it's all cute fun stuff... catering mainly to women shoppers. Does this mean my store and I will now be sent to purgatory?

Personally, I feel the existnce of WalMart far more offensive than an Xrated theatre, but that's just me.


Right now, "Porn" is all that will be affected, you are right. It will make it easier to find for those that want it. But what will stop someone in 6 months deciding "XYZ is offending the people..AKA Corporations. We need to move that off into an area by itself." Or you chatting to your partner in your home in open chat is offending your neighbor, who althgough he moved into a mature sim, he doesn't like it.It doesn't even have to be about sex, it could be your religion or politics or whatever. Maybe you are an artist, and while not creating overtly sexual imagery, your art may be edgy and somewhat controversial to some. If they scream loud enough, you may be told to pack up and move to a "special place"

"Your world, your imagination, but only where we say so"

It won't be the end of SL....people will leave but they will be replaced in multiples. By the type of people a lot of us come to SL to get away from. Which will suit LL's balance sheets just dandy.

*And Mitch proclaimed: "So shall it be blogged, so shall it be done."

"Sex Farm" was one of Tom Jones' greatest hits.

(I posted this same response in the sticky -- i hope it's okay to repost it, since Im twice as mad as usual; "you" refers to the Lindens)

You've got to be F'ing kidding me.

I spent thousands of US dollars on my land, at 2007 land boom prices, based on its LOCATION and the SURROUNGING COMMUNITY, and the PROTECTED LINDEN OCEAN. I suppose for you Lindens, any land is just pixels on a server somewhere; essentially just a SLURL that earns tier for you that could be shoved anywhere. Well I can tell you where to shove this plan of yours.

The sim in question was built on the principles of freedom of expression and lack of inhibitions, sex and nudity encouraged. Although you won't walk through and blatantly see boobies or hoo-hoos in your face every minute, the intent was that anything goes, with no Puritanical judgments on anyone at any time. That's one reason so many residents seek a refuge there and call it home.

I'm not moving, dammit. You can kiss my ass and kiss my tier goodbye. I only have 1 sim that would be in violation (I think -- could you stop being so vague?), but if forced to move, I'm pulling out everything everywhere.

--Avion

Actually, Jethro, I think you'll find that you're mistaken about that.

Agreed. I can find a dozen neighborhoods in my area where adult businesses are next to, or nearby all sorts of mainstream businesses. The are discreet to varying degrees, but the coexist quite successfully.

I actually was dismayed to see that my new town has only 1 "adult" shop and not a single stripper joint. Puritans. Back in Tucson, adult-oriented shops/clubs are successfully integrated into normal society. They're hardly shuffled off into the back alleys.

simpler idea dont merge grids at all and enforce age restriction like your legally bounded to do anyways , this plan of forcing LONG term subscribers and land owners to give up there established business is just wrong! Enforce your rules you always had and DO NOT ALLOW kids n the maingrid! Linden labs always has that survey on login splash screen asking why sl is worst or better ? Stupid ideas like this is the reason SL Is worst today then it was in 05-06 , for instance getting rid of live help so your completely desert your customers brilliant idea. You do relieze LL 80% of your customer base is mature , you probably killed most of them off with this new brillant move

There might even be some synergy. The other day we were driving through a little "olde towne" type of affair, and saw in close proximity an adult DVD rental shop with a private viewing room, an adult toy store, and a vacuum cleaner store.

They finally managed to close down the Empress though. The rest of the "Speedway Ballet" venues are still thriving.

I was sad when it went. Did you know that the Empress dated back to the 30's? At least that's what I heard a few years ago.

Yeah, that's why they had such a hard time closing it. Those pesky "Grandfather" clauses.

I hope they sold Wet/Dry vacs.

Just for once, I think it's a shame that the pie options are in this poll. Without those, the PG continent idea is coming out at 83%

But... who doesn't like pie? Naughty pie at that?

/me wonders where that Spinal Tap dvd got to.