A thread for Officers and SL cops to share anit-griefing tips and tricks

Was trying to reply to a particular post but 'QUOTE' isn't working for me. I see this isn't a very popular thread but I am going to respond anyway, because the 'SL Police' stuff aside (very much aside) I think the griefing aspect is important. Some ask what constitutes a griefer, an Art Squat? Not.

As estate manager for a sim that caters to deaf and disabled, we have encountered our share of griefers. Some just like to prey on people they believe are disabled in rl, and so they think we will be slower to react, or whatever. The most recent one was someone who arrived on the sim, we were putting gifts under our sim Christmas tree. He proceeded to fireball, trap, cage and orbit us. There were 4 of us there at the time, 3 females and one male. I gathered my wits (from inside of a cage, didn't have sense to get out of it, for few minutes, but did have sense to ban him from the estate.) Somehow in the process, not sure how, items from his griefing were embedded in a resident's house, she eventually had to delete the house, could not get it back right.

Before that incident, we had a particle/screamers griefing. Particles raining down, purple cubes. All the cubes were screaming anti-jewish slurs, and the attack was aimed at a resident from Israel. (Who was not online at the time).

Before THAT incident we had somebody come over frm a combat sim and throw 'bombs' around. The bombs destroyed an exhibit of race cars we had, they were embedded in the ground, and some cut in half. Still not sure what kind of bombs those were.

Perhaps not to others, but to me, both those incidents qualified as griefings. Just answering your question about hearing from other estate managers.

Last month, a seminar was held on the Dreams sim, for estate managers, that provided tools to deal with these situations. I attended that. I have my own land parcels protected and my Mystitool settings ready, but for my whole sim, nothing works like banning.

An estate ban pushes people to the edge of the sim parcel if they are already in the sim and wreaks hell on their viewer bouncing them continuously. You have to go into Region Tools and teleport the avatar home.

And then ban.

Yea that.

yes this is true, Dan Linden tested it with me, and it works this way...

when someone is ejected and/or banned from a parcel it moves them to a nearby parcel.
When the parcel is the entire sim, it moves them to the corner.

If they have a ban along with the eject, when they log in the next time, it will not allow them in the sim.

One fix to keep them from getting back on the parcel, is to cut a 16 m square in the corner which when they are ejected, it will put them in and they will not be able to return to the rest of the sim.

If you have the ability to go into the region tools then that would work, otherwise see the work around that I posted previously.

OK, that's a good tip - I think that by definition, those in charge of a sim should have access to those tools.

actually the way I understand it, the OP was/is hired to police (using that term can cause confusion) a sim or sims for people.

way different than the self proclaimed police force of SL, that usually hang out in public places such as help island and the welcome areas.

in charge of a sim could mean many different things and in some cases they will not have access to those tools

I work for someone who owns a sim, the sim is one entire plot, and I have seen the eject and ban mess up due to that.

I do not have access to the estate tools as they are not needed in my day to day dealings there.

IF things get bad enough (as they have) I simply either contact the owners, or the lindens (both of which works)

(since the lindens know I work for these people, either option works)

best option though if it is out of my control is to contact the owners, as they respond faster

Make Love - Not War.

I like John Lennon's sleep-in plan. When I get snitted up I play Lennon. He's much better than The Police.

I am very:

/me cranks her face light up to max light setting

A couple things have me scratching my head here:
All four-odd billion of them? Them's a lot o' llListen()s! (Does anybody know what it actually does? I know that using a MystiTool can add a noticeable increment of sim lag, but it can't be doing *that*.)
Just returning the griefer's prims wouldn't work? (If so, that's pretty scary.)

Just to clarify, all the ESTATE Ban/Eject/Etc actually removes an agent from the sim.

It will teleport them away, if that fails it will disconnect them all together.

Whoever said it just "pushes" them out was mistaken.

I feel sorry for mainland parcel owners (i never use the term sim owner, even if your parcels cover a whole sim). The tools offered to you are greatly inferior. You can't even shut off physics!!

Yes, this. I found that the 'eject' moves them but ban takes them off the sim completely, at least it has for me. I do have access to the estate manager's admin tools.

No, returning his prims didn't work. I mean, was able to return his prims but that didn't fix 'damage' to the house, or the other time, to the cars. I still don't know why. But those items had to be worked on, the cars and house both had to be deleted but were ok on re-rezzing.

just had a thought...
what if the avatar being teleported home, has their home location set to that same sim they are being removed from?

ah this is the comment where "pushes people to the edge of the sim parcel"

eject does that, eject/ban also does that (if the sim is one entire parcel)

as for what the estate ban does, that was just explained in a post above mine.

Any land owners who think you don't have to actively police a sim (we'll call it moderate) to maintain a sense of order and relative peace probably don't have very active communities that spend a lot of time in their parcels.

I know--its great fun watching griefers bounce helplessly. Until they figure out they should "Teleport Home".

Qie, the MystiTool will listen to up to 64 channels that you define. The default is channels 1-10. It will not scan every channel looking for chat.

I was in a Japanese mall sim the other day and in the middle was a large red button with a warning "Do not push, this button summons the SL Japanese Police" ... I didnt push it but I will admit I was temped as it was 3AM Tokyo time and was curious if anyone was awake.

Oh go on! I'll stand you bail.

Dan the conspiratorial Man

Do they have donut shops in Japan?

The Hangout has had very few instances of griefing. We don't actively police, but we do have permissions set to restrict some of the attempts. The last instance I remember was someone moving items set to "anyone can move" and that was a couple months ago.

of course we do..
but our poh-lees are more partial to take out noodles.. they prefer not to have to go out.