A thread for Officers and SL cops to share anit-griefing tips and tricks

I hunted around in the mess of the forum and really couldn't find much on this topic. A brief history to why I made it? I am a Officer of a highly traveled place in SL and enjoy being so. My ways naturally are that of following laws and regulations but the main reason I do it is I enjoy keeping the peace so the others who come to the Sim can have a enjoybale time without having to worry if they are going to get griefed. The otherday I had to deal with a griefer who was pretty sneaky and he had me pulling my hair out a bit. I had to call in the reinforcement to help me finally catch him.

I think a good thread for land owners/Officers with tips, tricks and ideas would help many many people in SL. Maybe tools used, SL menu options used and just whatever you have found to be helpful in finding them and getting rid of them.

A few of the things I do are use Mystitools, it has a great menu and a channel scanner that scans all the channels. Also lastnite I had gotten a few tips from a friend of mine who helped me hunt the griefer out told me to Enable "Disable Camara Restraints" and also Disable "Limit Select Distance", both in the Advanced menu.

I also found this video on Utube on how to hunt out particle objects.
http://www.secondlifeupdate.com/the-ten-tips/video-tutorial-stopping-griefer-particle-attacks-in-second-life/

I think this thread could help out a lot of people so be nice and share your tips thank you.

Harmony- when i first saw the title my impression was of the joke SL Police we would bump into a long time ago- glad to see the actual content though-

I fell vicitim to a grief attack in my land once - just didn't react fast enough- silly i know - but i was kind of paralyzed with the shock of wth was this person doing in my workshop let alone take action on ban etc- so I think your thread can be very helpful to folks like me that just never give it much thought.

I need to learn how to say "take off your hideous blingtard jewelry and face light you selfish so-and-so" in every known language. Oh..while we're at it...can the Lindens make a a land tool that won't allow people on your parcel or in your region who are blinging or are wearing face lights? My security woes would then be over lol

If I caught griefers in the public sandboxes, like cagers etc., I used to NAME AND SHAME THEM IN BLOCK CAPITALS in 'shout' mode. That usually stopped them - most were probably newbies who didn't realise that caging was griefing and that it was easy to discover the owner of the cage!!!

I do hope you are employing your tactics on your sim only, which is your right. The "hunting out" term is a bit disturbing. If you are actively seeking someone out in the general grid for any sort of retaliation then you yourself have become the griefer according to LL's ToS. They are the only real SL cops, and unfortunately they are always in the donut shop it seems.

Is this anything like that group that dresses up like forgotten comic book superheros and leaps around ARing people in welcome areas left-and-right all the while patting themselves on the backs for making the interweb a better place to live? (^_^)y

I commend your community spirit but what would constitute a griefer? Some pogo just sauntering around a "private sim" which cant be that private if he/she can snozz in? I understand how frustrating griefers are, believe me, so will not decry your policing. Its just that sense of where will it stop? Tons of avis would love to snook and snoop around and report miscreants even if they just miscreate on their own land. It's an age-old sl thing. I must say when serious issues unfold then everyone ducks and the poor old engriefed has to handle it on their lonesome.

It can also sound awfully "real" when locals getting sniffed when an "art squat" happens iin a London UK disused empty shed (just an example) and everyoen has been told about it but one soul decides its criminal.

Just adding as so many are - dont spread your goodness beyond your sim. Otherwise YOU will be teh griefer as far as I am concerned.

Be kind to strangers. Angels come in many disguises.

Hmm- that was my first impression too- but then re-read it again- the op says they hunted in the forum for the topic- I do admit i am assuming it is on their own sim- but now i am wondering too-

OP- Which is it? Your own place or your group's or did you take it upon your self to be a caped crusader?

That just reminds me of my ex-partner in sl in olden days. He used to "hunt" supermen in their costumes. And Boy Robins. One minute Boy Robin was plonking along looking grim - teh next he was a disappearing avi streaking off upwards.

Ah teh good ol'days! Lawless and anarchistic. What a world, what a world ...

(Adding) But its that "police" thing that's getting to me. People here tend to freely express and act on their own desires. Sometimes they dont follow exact rules. I dont care as long as they dont start building or chonking up my land etc. But there's always a few who spot a mistake and give you "grief" in a very genuine sense - ars and "shaming" etc. Enforcing rules that Lindens simply nod about. Leave as leave be - dont police what isnt yours to guard. Sl is NOT a police state.

OK I understand the sensitivity about not policing things that are yours to police - we don't need some vigilante squad running around..

But I would like to hear other tips form those that DO manage sims - what are the typical forms of griefer that we can expect and how do you deal with them in a way that doesn't violate the SL TOS?

Up until now the few griefer cases that we have got treated to a Freeze, Ban and Eject, followed up with having all their objects on the SIM returned to them. So far that has seemed to deal with it.

I also learned that a lof of attacks are particle attacks that bog down your client, and that to turn max particles right down as the first step.

Now as I understand it, Eject just tries to move them out of the parcel. if the parcel is a private island like ours it still keeps them on the parcel, but moves them to a corner - is that true?

What else do we need to know?

I have MystiTool, but haven't had an attack since I got it - I've heard it's very effective - what is best to use from the large palette of tools in there:?

It's a good topc, but whenevr the buzzwords SL Police come up, it usually doesn't end well. But that could be a self fufilling prophecy as well.

My techniques for combating griefing:

Step one: Open up the Estate menu and click the various buttons.
Step two: ???????
Step three: PROFIT!!!!!


Really, is it any harder then that?
People make such a big deal out of "fighting" griefers, jeez.

So you want tips from someone that manages sims. Here I am!

1. Forget all the right click menu options, they are useless to you.
2. World > Region/Estate is your new tool.

For general attacks just go to the Estate tab and Ban from estate button, poof there gone.

For attacks that make you crash if you even enter your sim. Just tp in at 4000 meters. Go to the Debug tab and click "select avatar" type there name in and use the tool to return all there objects, multiple times, then again I SAID SPAM THE BUTTON DAMNIT!!!11 Really it hardly works right, you have to spam it pretty hard or nothing will get returned.


Always remember there is no rush, do not rush. So what if everyone is complaining about griefers, take your time, it is better then making a mistake. Everyone will forget about it ten minutes later anyway.

Never bother to come within sight of the offender, just hang out in the sky and chill while clicking buttons.

Remember, using anything like a mystitool or other scripted gadget can get you banned yourself. Only use tools provided in the client by LL.

This is true, and can be highly amusing. It's been a long time since I had to eject anyone, but if you eject them and there's no other parcel in the region for them to get tossed onto, they end up smushed in a corner. In this case the person was in the air about 50m up, sort of bouncing up and down crazy-fast as the parcel was trying to eject them away but there was nowhere else for them to go.

We do use estate-ban to deal with persistent trouble-makers, but that has been quite rare.

-Atashi

I own land and never bother with the refusal thingie about building on it. I dont really think taht its griefing - often just a newbie or lonely soul needs a space of their own for a night. When I come on I usually just send them back their stuff. In case of my neighbours, a few encroach on my land but its no big deal. Would leaving stuff behind be considered griefing?

Particle attacks are another thing. Verbal abuse is also unacceptable. In my time in SL my partner (since his last name is Jewish and we dont hide the fact to anyone who asks) has been subjected to anti-semitism at Christmas time (we usually avoid sl on those days). That IS griefing. I must say that Lindens act swiftly in those cases - within minutes actually, and my partner received a letter discussing teh situation with him. So there is "griefing" and then there is Griefing (with a capital G).

In teh case of racism, homophobia, neo-nazism etc - griefs I hope none of you experience Lindens act with foresight and decency.

A travelling group of "garbage collectors" would be a very real help - disposing of stuff leeft on abandoned sims.

Well when I said hunt them out I meant it as only on the sims I police for. I wouldnt actively search them out gridwide. As far as what I constitute griefing is the typical Object rezzers, chat spammers and things of that nature. Cages are low level and usually a firm warning stops the person from caging people in my experience. Also you'll get teams of griefers sometimes which happened the otherday where I police. Think their ended up being 10 of them. As far as being patient that is a good rule to stand by. I found as I got more and more aggrivated I was less capable of dealing with the issue.

OK- what does this part mean, really? Why do you 'police for'? Were you hired by the owners of these sims? Just curious-

yes

I took the "police" out of the thread to

Great advice on the flying high and clicking! Less likely for them to attack you because they have to find you first!

Does an Estate Ban take them out of the sim, or just prevent them from re-entering? Where does it send them, if it gets rid of them?

Another "security specialist" or "policeman" or whatever you want to call them thread huh? Sorry but there have been a few and everyone "talks" seriously about their "business". Nearly everyone ends up being nothing better then a greifer themselves. What is really amazing is that you were hired by more then one sim when you don't even know the basics.

Listen Harmony, you may be a really nice person in both SL and RL but your chosen field of specialty is not well received by a large portion of the community. An SL "security specialist" is a greifer, nothing more, nothing less. I do hope you continue to explore and learn and hopefully someday make a more meaningful contribution to the SL society then this.

Wow...just....wow.

Wow. Feel the love. Sorry - didn't mean to get in the way of such tirades with actual constructive questions

My post was not meant as an attack of the person behind the av Harmony. As I said he may be a really nice guy. My thread was an attack against the security specialty field and I meant every word of that. Have seen waaaaaaay too many that were nothing more then thugs.